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Hi Keras,
That seems right.
And the RESURRECTION of Ez 37 is not physical but a rebirth to hope and a call home to Israel of the dispersion.
That was what I have been saying all along.
1. After the coming the land of Israel will be as paradise; dwelling in peace without walls.
2. No pain; no sorrows, no tears, no wars, swords turned into ploughshares.
3.All the riches will be divided amongst them; and gog is going to come in, to take it.
4. This is when satan and his angels will be cast into the fire; he and his angels were spared at the second coming.
5.This can not fit in today’s Israel; but after Armageddon; after Babylon the great is destroyed.
6.The land of magog in the four quartes of the earth, does not exist today.(note: four quarters of the earth, and the islands far off.
7.Babylon will be destroyed at the coming; not gog and magog.
8.Magog in the four quarters of the earth will be destroyed by God; not by the Lamb.A). Armageddon: = the gathering of the nations against the Lamb; Babylon destroyed.(not the land of magog).
b). Gog and magog; = the attack on God’s people living in peace, to take all their treasures; and God will destroy them.
c). Amageddon is coming soon; but the battle of gog in another 1000years.wakeup.
Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Satan is now put in prison and bound there for a thousand years. This is when the thousand years STARTS.Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Satan cannot DECEIVE the nations no more until the 1000 years are FULLFILLED and cannot operate during this time. Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
A glimpse of those saints who were persecuted for not receiving the mark of the beast or worshiping his image now being resurrected……after the false prophet and his beast destroyed, and after Satan put in prison. This is all happening on the same day of the coming, in ORDER….and we know the saints are raised on the 7th TRUMPET.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
The rest of the dead that did not take part in the first resurrection stay in their graves until the 2nd judgement.
Anyone disagree? …because verse 4 is only speaking about THE FIRST RESURRECTION, NOT THE 2ND.Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
These saints who took part in the FIRST RESURRECTION will reign with Christ A THOUSAND YEARS.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
And when the thousand years are over…..the same thousand years that the saints have been ruling for whilst Satan was in prison….and AFTER THAT, Satan will BE LET LOOSE AGAIN.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And when he is LET LOOSE from his prison, he, Satan.. shall go to the FOUR QUARTERS of the EARTH (HE COVERS THE WHOLE EARTH) to gather them to ANOTHER BATTLE.
Note: the FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH IS MAGOG. This is a name of the ARMY he has formed FROM ALL OVER THE EARTH to attack the camp of the saints…..WHERE THE SAINTS HAVE BEEN RULING WITH CHRIST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS over flesh. GOG is their LEADERS NAME, and MAGOG is his combined armies – see Ezekiel.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
This is the camp of the saints they are attacking. A physical attack on the kingdom on earth which has boundaries, and people living in there. No one inside this kingdom gets harmed because God himself KILLS THEM. THEIR WEAPONS ARE USELESS.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
NOW THE DEVIL IS DESTROYED FOREVER.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
NOW IS JUDGEMENT DAY. A thousand years after the 1st resurrection
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
The dead judged according to their works.Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
No more death, no more wars, this phase closed. Now the earth will be melted.
Anyone disagree?So far No one can refute the order of these scriptures? Without going into the OT with the finer details, or any where else right now, you cannot see the simplicity of the order. Can you not see there are two wars? One AT THE 2ND COMING against THE LAMB, and the next war 1000 YEARS AFTER the coming? It does not say the second war is a few months later, It clearly states this second war involving Gog and Magog takes place ONE THOUSAND YEARS AFTER. Is this my own personal opinion?, or what the scriptures state?
Read the order again, I have typed it out for you. The only thing I can think of is that you have pages missing from your bibles, or maybe the wording is missing out important details, or you are simply blocked from understanding and the holy spirit is being withheld from you?
Whilst you rave about love, and the love you have for the Lord, and your brethren etc, can you find it in your hearts to have the love for the truth? You cannot have one without the other.
If a brother boldly shows you the truth where you are in error, why do you criticize him? Is it so hard to be humble and admit error?
If you agree then why do you also stay silent? Why do you waste your time on endless arguments and unimportant topics, when solid proof has been presented to you for your edification? If we get it wrong then we preach ERROR. This God hates, which is why we need scriptures for reproof.We are all equal as servants. None of us is above the other. Let the scriptures be the judge. There is no hierarchy amongst us, but save the Word which rules over us.
May your eyes be opened to all truth.
Peace to all.Hi J42,
If physical beheading is required then most of the apostles will not be in the first resurrection
Anyone disagree?
Look spiritually.
NO Wakeup, it will happen before the Return, New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] will elect their own leaders. Jer. 30:21, Hosea 1:11 THAT is why the Lord will bring on Gog, with hooks in his jaw, [another proof of this NOT being at the end of the Mill.] so He can display His power.
J42, what you post is perfectly correct – except for calling Satan’s army, Gog’s army. But it is all what will happen before, during and after the Millennium. As I said before, you miss out a lot that will happen before that.
What do you think will enable the establishment of a One World Govt?
Who will be in the Holy Land at the Return?
Hi J42,
If physical beheading is required then most of the apostles will not be in the first resurrection
Anyone disagree?
Look spiritually.Hi Nick
All the saints who have been killed for Christ will be in the first resurrection.
The ones who get beheaded for refusing the mark of the beast are “the saints of the last days”
These are the ones who get a mention also. The vision is focusing on THEM only because Rev is revealing the FUTURE.The saints of “the last days” will go through very hard times. This will be happening to saints all over the world, and not just in Israel like before, but on a global mass murdering system. They deserve a mention don’t you think?
Hi J42,
And what of those before who have lived and died IN Christ Jesus-those who sleep?
Your doctrines must find a place for those who have passed over from death to life- in the Spirit.
J42, what you post is perfectly correct – except for calling Satan’s army, Gog’s army. But it is all what will happen before, during and after the Millennium. As I said before, you miss out a lot that will happen before that.
Thanks Keras
What do you think will enable the establishment of a One World Govt?
Revelation 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
From the scriptures, the 10 kings which are involved, who I know are working behind the scenes now and are in Europe will cause a global collapse of the economy, and the result will be a “famine” which they have purposed. This in turn will cause billions all over the world to lose jobs, creating uprisings, looting, starvation, sickness, disease, and basically total disorder which they are expecting from what they will cause. Law and order will have to be reformed and thus the perfect conditions for “A New World Order” to emerge. They will bring forth their leader, the false prophet.
Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
Who will be in the Holy Land at the Return?
The false prophet working with the 10 kings will attack and occupy Israel for a total of 3 1/2 years., They will set up their headquarters in Jerusalem and will build the temple of the false prophet there.
The kings of the Medes will stand up (Islamic nations) against the false prophet and his beast, and will come into Israel with great fury destroying everything in their path. A great war will be held here all over the country of Israel, with a third of men killed, but Christ will cut it short with his appearing. All the armies will re-assemble into Armageddon and from there war against the Lamb. God has gathered them all there for this purpose so they can be destroyed in the one place.
So in Israel at that time will be the armies of every single nation, and they will chose their side between the Medes and the false prophet’s army (10 kings).
Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw UNDER THE ALTAR the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Revelation 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, HOW LONG, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou NOT judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Revelation 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, UNTIL THEIR FELLOW SERVANTS also and THEIR BRETHREN, THAT SHOULD BE KILLED as they were, should be fulfilled.
wakeup
Hi Devolution
What comment?
Let me guess?
You wrote something, sent it, then changed your mind and decided to delete your whole answer, but it would only let you EDIT, and not delete so you had to write something anyway?Lol. Happened to me before also.
To enable the establishment of a One World Government, there needs to be some significant event, disaster or change to out present situation. Nations are NOT willing to give up their sovereignty. An OWG has been promoted for many years, but only a dramatic event, such as what the prophets tell us will happen – a fire from the sky that will destroy our modern infrastructure and kill millions, the Sixth Seal, will cause the nations to accede to a OWG.
The people living in all of the Holy Land, will be the Lord’s people, gathered out of the nations after this forthcoming disaster. Jer. 23:3-4 You are right, J42, in that the last 3.5 years will be a time when the Anti-Christ will conquer new Israel, Zech. 14:1-2, but half of the people will go to a place of safety. Rev. 12. Then the Lord Jesus will Return and destroy those armies at Armageddon.
Re’ the nations will not give their sovereignty.
Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
wakeup.
The ten kings HAVE NOT YET BEGUN THEIR REIGN….. Rev 17:12
What is it that makes the nations, as we have at present. to give up their sovereignty to an OWG of 10 regions?
Keras.
The 10; AS KINGS have been ruling nations for the last 200 years.
they are the Zionists; the money lenders Who caused all the wars.
Nations owes them big money; the rothschilds, the rockefellers, the Vatican, the illuminati, the world banking cartels.
They are the puppeteers. Wars means money to them.
Soon they will agree to come together as one power. God will make this happen.Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power AS KINGS one hour with the beast.
Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
wakeup
Unless you can specifically name the ten, I will discount your idea as rubbish.
Sure, there are powerful organizations and people behind the scenes, but they cannot make nations give their control to them.
Why is it so difficult to see what Bible prophecy actually tells us? There will be a sudden and shocking Day of wrath, of fire, storms. earthquakes and tsunamis, that will destroy our modern infrastructure and force people to join in a OWG.
The whole point of my posting on forums, is to warn everyone of this forthcoming disaster, because as Christians, we must maintain our trust in the Lord Jesus for protection. WE should not be surprised at the ‘fiery trial that comes to test us’ 1 Peter 4:12
I have their names not in my head at the moment, but you should know them.
There are TEN ruling the world AS KINGS. Behind the scenes.
This is in harmony with rev. 17. Not kings; but AS KINGS.
They are the money lenders controlling the whole world’s economy, and trade.
The NWO is their idea; and will bring it to pass.
I just rember one more: it is the buildeberg,of Holland = shell oil company.
I will get the rest for you.The destruction of Babylon is in the hands of the Word of God; coming with a sword in His mouth.
It will be a one day destruction.Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in ONE DAY, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
wakeup.
Keras.
I can add two more. The Freemasons, and Jp Morgans.
All money lenders; the lenders are masters over the borrowers.wakeup.
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