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Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
God is preparing a great feast for the fowls of the air (Scavengers birds who eat flesh). They will have a lot of food soon.Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
There is going to be a lot of death soonRevelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
This is the war at Armageddon. The armies are gathered there in that one place to make war with the Lamb at his appearing. Anyone disagree?Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Now the coming, with the fine details left out here. The lamb conquers and we see he has taken the beast (10 kings), AND the false prophet….and thrown them into the Lake of Fire.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Satan is now put in prison and bound there for a thousand years. This is when the thousand years STARTS.
So that last empire of the 10 kings is now gone, the false prophet now gone, and Satan is put into a prison for a thousand years. He’s not gone yet, but put out of the way.
Any one disagree?Revelation 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Satan cannot DECEIVE the nations no more until the 1000 years are FULLFILLED and cannot operate during this time. Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
A glimpse of those saints who were persecuted for not receiving the mark of the beast or worshiping his image now being resurrected……after the false prophet and his beast destroyed, and after Satan put in prison. This is all happening on the same day of the coming, in ORDER….and we know the saints are raised on the 7th TRUMPET.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
The rest of the dead that did not take part in the first resurrection stay in their graves until the 2nd judgement.
Anyone disagree? …because verse 4 is only speaking about THE FIRST RESURRECTION, NOT THE 2ND.Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
These saints who took part in the FIRST RESURRECTION will reign with Christ A THOUSAND YEARS.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
And when the thousand years are over…..the same thousand years that the saints have been ruling for whilst Satan was in prison….and AFTER THAT, Satan will BE LET LOOSE AGAIN.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And when he is LET LOOSE from his prison, he, Satan.. shall go to the FOUR QUARTERS of the EARTH (HE COVERS THE WHOLE EARTH) to gather them to ANOTHER BATTLE.
Note: the FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH IS MAGOG. This is a name of the ARMY he has formed FROM ALL OVER THE EARTH to attack the camp of the saints…..WHERE THE SAINTS HAVE BEEN RULING WITH CHRIST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS over flesh. GOG is their LEADERS NAME, and MAGOG is his combined armies – see Ezekiel.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
This is the camp of the saints they are attacking. A physical attack on the kingdom on earth which has boundaries, and people living in there. No one inside this kingdom gets harmed because God himself KILLS THEM. THEIR WEAPONS ARE USELESS.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
NOW THE DEVIL IS DESTROYED FOREVER.
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
NOW IS JUDGEMENT DAY. A thousand years after the 1st resurrection
Anyone disagree?Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
The dead judged according to their works.Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
No more death, no more wars, this phase closed. Now the earth will be melted.
Anyone disagree?The point I am showing straight from the scriptures and not by personal interpretation, is that the WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG, takes place AFTER the thousand years when Satan is RELEASED from his PRISON, and not before.
The War of Gog and Magog, is a different war, and not the same war that happened at the coming at Armageddon.
We can CLEARLY see Satan is bound at the coming, and put in prison for a thousand years, then when he is released after the thousand years, he prepares for the Gog and Magog war.Feel free to provide scriptures if you disagree without personal insults please for to some of us, we are handling the Word of Life, and do not take it with a grain of salt.
Hi J42,
The devil is destroyed forever?
Does scripture say that?
If you disagree then bring forth your scriptures that say the devil lives forever.
Maybe you should make a new post and title it “The devil lives forever”.
Then we can all have a discussion about it for the next 5 years.J42, your ‘order of events’ starts at the battle of Armageddon; isn’t there more than a few things to happen before that?
Like the first Gog/Magog attack, that will happen before the Return, as Ezekiel 39:21-28 makes clear.
Keras.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
When the 1000years are expired gog will come for the attack.
wakeup.
The theory that there is only one Gog attack and that is at the end of the Millennium, is wrong.
Ezekiel 38 & 39 describes an attack on a people gathered out of the nations, living in the Holy Land at last in safety and prosperity. Read carefully, it is clear that this is recent, not after 1000 years. It is also kind of ridiculous to think the gathering of the bones and weapons is after the Great White throne judgement of all people.
The reference to G/M in Rev 20:8, is just a metaphor used to describe a vast army.
While you believe a false theory like you say, then understanding of end time events is impossible for you.
1.how many gogs and magogs are there in your opinion?
2. You say recent? When? Can you state? Where is the magog of today?
3.I never said the war of gog will happen after the white throne judgement; but before.
4.The dry bones will put on flesh; then put in the kingdom, those bones are of Israel that is scattered among many nations.
5.They are the chosen; there are also many of Israel chosen in this last generation of jews.wakeup.
At the resurrection of the saints; the jews chosen by choice; will be brought back to their own land,
in the flesh. And the saints will rule over them for a 1000yrs.wakeup.
1.how many gogs and magogs are there in your opinion? Only one, it happens after the devastation of the Sixth Seal clears the Holy Land and all the Lord’s righteous people go to live there, Eze. 38:8 proves. Read Isaiah 35 for how the Land will be regenerated and repopulated by true Israelites, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in.
2. You say recent? When? Can you state? Where is the magog of today? Within the next 10 years. Eze 38:6….a vast army from the far recesses of the North. Russia and all her allies.
3.I never said the war of gog will happen after the white throne judgement; but before. Neither did I, but not 7 years before, so the weapons and bones are collected during the Eternal Ages, after the GWT?
4.The dry bones will put on flesh; then put in the kingdom, those bones are of Israel that is scattered among many nations. This will happen first, nothing to do with the G/M war.
5.They are the chosen; there are also many of Israel chosen in this last generation of jews.Jews are NOT all of Israel. Can’t you read Ephesians 2:11-18, Romans 9:8wakeup.
You are making one gog and magog into two gogs and magogs.
Jesus mentioned one great tribulation, not two.
Rev.20 is clear about the one gog and magog destroyed by fire out of heaven from God.
How is the second one destroyed?
There is one valley of hamongog; where is the other?
There is one 7months to burry the dead; where is the second one?Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
You are saying there are two of the above mentioned? Two great wars before Armageddon?
What is the second one?Nahum 1:9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.
wakeup.
J42, your ‘order of events’ starts at the battle of Armageddon; isn’t there more than a few things to happen before that?
Like the first Gog/Magog attack, that will happen before the Return, as Ezekiel 39:21-28 makes clear.
Keras
The two events I am focusing on in the correct order is;
1. Armageddon (The war against the lamb)
2. The war of Gog and Magog.What many fail to realise is that one event happens at the coming,….and then Satan is bound up in prison for 1000 years, so that he does not deceive the nations no more….until the 1000 years is expired, then he will be let out of his prison to start the Gog and Magog war. This is pretty clear from the scriptures which I have put forth.
So the 1000 years that Satan is in prison is the Millennium era, the 1000 years of peace, because the devil is locked up during this time, (cannot meddle anymore) and ONE TRUTH, is preached by the Lamb himself, to inside that kingdom area (Camp of the Saints) to the Jews, then by them, preached outside the camp to all the gentiles.
Then, only then….after the 1000 years is expired will the Devil be let loose, and will use Gog, a man, to gather his armies, and together they are called….. Magog…. which are from the 4 quarters of the earth (not one part of the earth) to attack the camp of the saints. This is the final war, except in this war, no saints are harmed. The camp is only surrounded.
It is clear that this event happens AFTER the 1000 years of peace.Yes, the details of this war is in Ezekiel down to the fine details, which many confuse with the war of Armageddon, failing to notice;
1. the devil has been released from his prison to gather Gog and Magaon to attack the camp of the saints AFTER THE THOUSAND YEARS has expired as REVEALED in REVELATIONS which SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS the name of this WAR – GOG AND MAGOG.
2. Gog is not the false prophet, because the false prophet was destroyed a thousand years earlier.
3. Gog is attacking the camp of the saints, situated in Jerusalem where the kingdom on earth will be set up. A physical kingdom, with cities, and people, where the Lord will rule from. A city of peace.
4. Israel and Jerusalem is not at peace now, and never has been, until the Prince of Peace comes and delivers them through mercy and frees them from their oppressors, and their own leaders (Zionists) that have caused them much devestation. This will only happen at the coming and not before.To me, once we get the ORDER OF THESE TWO WARS RIGHT FIRST, then we can understand the fine details, which are explained in the OT, which some here reject, therefore they will not understand and miss out on this vital peace of knowledge to TESTIFY beforehand according to what is written.
Lets get this straight, time is too short now to remain in confusion.
The next prophesied event will be the Psalm 83 attack against Israel. God will destroy them and virtually depopulate all of the Holy Land
A few years later, God will motivate Gog from Magog – from the nations to the North of Israel to attack. God will again destroy them.
At the end of the Great tribulation, the Anti-Christ will bring a world army against Jesus as He Returns. This is Armageddon.
After nearly 1000 years, Satan will be released and will again attempt an attack against Jesus. This army is metaphorically referred to as similar in size to that of Gog and they are instantly cremated this time.
I have plenty of scripture to support this scenario, so don’t waste your efforts to try to convince me of any other sequence. Events will vindicate me.
Wakeup, you simply fail to read properly what I write. Makes it hopeless to converse with you.
Keras.
You have twisted Ez.38 to own interpretation; And I will explain.
Ezekiel 38:1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
THERE IS NO MAN NAMED GOG, NOR THE LAnD OF MAGOG TODAY. ALL ARE JUST GUESSING.Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
WHICH OF THE LEADERS TODAY IS GOG;THE PRINCE?Ezekiel 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
ALL OF THE LAND OF MAGOG.Ezekiel 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
ONE THOUSAND YEARS FROM NOW,THOSE NATIONS WILL STILL BEAR THE SAME NAME.
BTW; THEY ARE NOT NORTH OF ISRAEL . PERSIA IS EAST; ETHIOPIA IS SOUTH; LIBIA IS WEST.Ezekiel 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
TOGARMAH IS NORTH.Ezekiel 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: [colo=red]but it is brought forth out of the nations,[/color] and they shall dwell safely all of them.
NOTE: A LAND GATHERED OF MANY PEOPLE. SHALL DWELL SAFELY. THIS IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD IN ISREAL.Ezekiel 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
ALL THY BANDS; NORTH; SOUTH; EAST; WEST.Ezekiel 38:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
GOG’S IDEA; PLAN.Ezekiel 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
Ezekiel 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
ISREAL BROUGHT BACK OF MANY NATIONS,WHEN THEY WERE SCATTERED.Ezekiel 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
GOG WILL COME TO GET SOME OF THE PRECIOUS THINGS OF ISRAEL.Ezekiel 38:14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
Ezekiel 38:15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
THE ATTACK WILL COME FROM THE NORTH FLANK.Ezekiel 38:16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
GOG WILL BE THE SON OF PERDITION OF THE DISTANT FUTURE.(1000YEARS).NOTE NO MIRACLES PERFORMED HERE.
THE SON OF PERDITION COMING SOON, IS NAMED THE FALSE PROPHET,WITH MIRACLES.Ezekiel 38:17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou HE of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
Ezekiel 38:18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
Ezekiel 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
Ezekiel 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
THIS IS THE LAST WAR AGAINST GOD; NOT AGAINST THE LAMB. SECOND RESURRECTION WILL FOLLOW.Ezekiel 38:21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man’s sword shall be against his brother.
GOGS NATIONS WILL FIGHT EACH OTHER. NOTE; CHRIST IS RULING THE EARTH WITH A ROD OF IRON.Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
Ezekiel 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
MANY NATIONS ROUND ABOUT THE KINGDOM.wakeup.
The main reason anyone has to place Ezekiel 38-39 at the end of the Millennium, is that Israel is not, at present ‘a land of unprotected towns, living in peace and prosperity’. But you don’t see that after the Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath, as described in Ezekiel 20:45-48 and Eze 21:1-7, the Holy Land will be regenerated and the Lord’s righteous people will be living there. Eze 36, Isaiah 35 and many other prophesies. It is them that Gog attacks and the reason for that attack, is for the other nations to see His judgement and for His people to know He is their God.
Read Eze 39:21-29 VERY CAREFULLY
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