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Quote Hi J42: I am sorry, I don't understand what is your point?
Love in Christ,
Marty
The kingdom area that will be set up on earth has measurements.The city lies foursquare. The breath and the height of it is equal. Twelve thousand furlongs. This converts to 2,414km square. It has boundaries, therefore it is an area that has been measured.
You said the temple has no measurements. I am showing you that it does.
John is explaining the kingdom he saw coming out of heaven. A spiritual kingdom. The City of God. This is where the resurrected saints will reign with Christ over the Jews after his return.
but it says this
Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.The temple is spiritual. But the kingdom is physical now. An area with boundaries. There will be people living inside these boundaries. Nothing defiled can enter it's grounds. This is where the lion will eat straw, and a man will live to be a hundred years old, and the children will play safely. All living inside this area will have protection. There is flesh dwelling in this area, and Christ and the saints are ruling over them, teaching them.
Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Nick
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
We've been over this before.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2014,15:31) Hi J42,
Yes priests minister to God and rulers rule.
No teachers in there as the Spirit teaches
You think the saints will just sit down and play harps all day.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2014,16:15) Hi WU,
So you had to make up a job for them?
How little understanding have you got.
Who else is going to teach the jews about christ,and God;
if not the learned saints? Hello.
What do priests do the six days a week?
Just sit down, and wait for the seventh day?What did the apostles do everyday?
Are they not teaching,and preaching?wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2014,17:25) Hi WU,
No it is not your job to imagine what will happen.
You see priests as the world does
You are so ignorant or choose to be ignorant.
Not willing to answer what the apostles have been doing in their life time.
Just making strange noises instead.
You are full of noise.Like little children.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2014,18:42) Hi WU,
So strange
An old man behaving so foolishly
I treat everyone accordingly.
Born again saint Nick.wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ June 12 2014,10:54) Quote Hi J42: I am sorry, I don't understand what is your point?
Love in Christ,
Marty
The kingdom area that will be set up on earth has measurements.The city lies foursquare. The breath and the height of it is equal. Twelve thousand furlongs. This converts to 2,414km square. It has boundaries, therefore it is an area that has been measured.
You said the temple has no measurements. I am showing you that it does.
John is explaining the kingdom he saw coming out of heaven. A spiritual kingdom. The City of God. This is where the resurrected saints will reign with Christ over the Jews after his return.
but it says this
Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.The temple is spiritual. But the kingdom is physical now. An area with boundaries. There will be people living inside these boundaries. Nothing defiled can enter it's grounds. This is where the lion will eat straw, and a man will live to be a hundred years old, and the children will play safely. All living inside this area will have protection. There is flesh dwelling in this area, and Christ and the saints are ruling over them, teaching them.
Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isaiah 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Hi J42:You said:
Quote I read those scriptures you gave. The difference is that the temple the False prophet sets himself up in is not God's Temple, but his own. A counterfeit. I am still having difficulty understanding this, I'll have to go back and read what was said.
The scripture that I quoted from 2 Thes, states that the Anti-Christ, which I assume that you are calling the “False Prophet”, sets himself up in the “Temple of God”,
and you say it is not the “Temple of God” but “his own”. It is a counterfiet?
Ok. J42:
Still confused:
Let's take this slowly, because if it is solid food, it is a little difficult for me to digest.
Please explain how you arrive at all of the comments in this scripture?
Quote Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. (JESUS CHRIST IS THAT SEED, AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM ARE THE SAINTS WHO WILL “INHERIT” ALL THINGS. THOSE SERVANTS WHO WILL DWELL THERE IN THE KINGDOM, ARE THE JEWS WHO WILL BE BROUGHT BACK IN THE FLESH. THEY HAVE NOT INHERITED YET, BUT JUST DWELL THERE. FLESH JEWS AND SPIRITUAL SAINTS LIVING IN THE SAME KINGDOM TOGETHER ON EARTH, PROPHECY Love in Christ,
Marty942767,June wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hi J42: You said:
Quote I read those scriptures you gave. The difference is that the temple the False prophet sets himself up in is not God's Temple, but his own. A counterfeit. I am still having difficulty understanding this, I'll have to go back and read what was said.
The scripture that I quoted from 2 Thes, states that the Anti-Christ, which I assume that you are calling the “False Prophet”, sets himself up in the “Temple of God”,
and you say it is not the “Temple of God” but “his own”. It is a counterfiet?
Hi Marty
The temple he sits in is a physical temple. He builds it in Jerusalem. A blasphemy and complete abomination, because this peace of land is going to be used for Christ to rule from, his headquarters, but instead, before Christ returns, the false prophet is there ruling.
That temple the false prophet builds and sits in, is not God's temple, but a counterfeit. God's real temple is not made with hands remember?
To the world he is sitting in God's temple. They will think it's holy, but to us we know the truth.
Quote (942767 @ June 15 2014,11:09) Ok. J42: Still confused:
Let's take this slowly, because if it is solid food, it is a little difficult for me to digest.
Please explain how you arrive at all of the comments in this scripture?
Quote Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. (JESUS CHRIST IS THAT SEED, AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM ARE THE SAINTS WHO WILL “INHERIT” ALL THINGS. THOSE SERVANTS WHO WILL DWELL THERE IN THE KINGDOM, ARE THE JEWS WHO WILL BE BROUGHT BACK IN THE FLESH. THEY HAVE NOT INHERITED YET, BUT JUST DWELL THERE. FLESH JEWS AND SPIRITUAL SAINTS LIVING IN THE SAME KINGDOM TOGETHER ON EARTH, PROPHECY Love in Christ,
Marty
Hi Marty.Jesus Christ is that seed who comes out of the tribe of Judah. He has already inherited all things, because he has conquered death, and is now spirit. We who follow him, will inherit all things also on our resurrection.
….but the Jews who will be brought back in the FLESH during the millennium, will only DWELL in the kingdom area (live there). They have not inherited all things yet, because they are still flesh. (have not died and been changed to spirit) ……because they have to learn Christ first….the new covenant. There is no other way into the kingdom.
The saints get to claim their inheritance first, at the coming, and then the Jews will claim their inheritance on the second judgement a thousand years later.
All those jews dwelling inside the kingdom for a thousand years, will be filled with the holy spirit, because they are taught directly from Christ, and the saints. They will have no way to err. Not one of them will be lost, but they have to wait to receive their final reward.Quote But Paul says that the only way for one to be the “Israel of God” by the following means as God told Abraham: “in Isaac shall thy seed be called”. Ishmael was a descendant of Abraham but God told Abraham that Ishmael was not his heir,
Hi Marty, I've gone over what you said, and you are right here. I failed to point out that Abraham had two sons, and Ishamael was the son of the Egyptian woman, and Isaac the Son of Sarah. The promise goes down the line of Isaac. Very good on you for picking this up Marty. I think my explanation was wrong as I was not concentrating, and you are right up to this point.
I was wrong,
you were right
I was wrong
you were right
I was wrong
you were right.
apologies.
There I said it
Quote but Isaac and those called to God through him are His heirs. Isaac was the promised child and is symbolic of the promised Messiah, Jesus God's Son and His Christ, and it is through him that all of God's children are reconciled unto him.
Now, because the promise was made to Abraham, and he had two sons, God confirmed that the promise would go down the line of Isaac, which is the line of Israel.You quoted this;
Quote Galatians 3:16
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.Quote Gal 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.And this confirms you are absolutely right!
And now I will add this scripture, to confirm your confirmation and correction of my incorrect statement!
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.J42:
You say:
Quote but the Jews who will be brought back in the FLESH during the millennium, will only DWELL in the kingdom area (live there). They have not inherited all things yet, because they are still flesh. (have not died and been changed to spirit) ……because they have to learn Christ first….the new covenant. There is no other way into the kingdom.
The saints get to claim their inheritance first, at the coming, and then the Jews will claim their inheritance on the second judgement a thousand years later.
All those jews dwelling inside the kingdom for a thousand years, will be filled with the holy spirit, because they are taught directly from Christ, and the saints. They will have no way to err. Not one of them will be lost, but they have to wait to receive their final reward.That is not the way that I understand the scriptures. Those under the Law of Moses were obeying the Ten Commandments but of course they made mistakes, and was the Law of God that convicted them when they violated the Law, and that meant that they had to repent, and no one can be saved by obeying the Law because one cannot obey the Law without sin violating it if only inadvertently. God knew that they could not obey the Law without violating it.
Salvation is by “faith” so it might be by grace. One cannot work to earn one's salvation or buy it in any way. The animal sacrifices that those under the Law had to offer for the violations of the commandments were symbolic of the blood of Jesus, but as Hebrews 9 states those blood sacrifices could never was away the sin of those under the Law. In the day of atonement, although some one may have offered an animal sacrifice during the year for the violations of the Law, the High Priest went into the Holy of Holies each year for the sins of the whole nation. They did this every year, and each year there was remembrance of the same sins. The blood of animals was not the ultimate remedy.
Those under the Law of Moses who were obeying the Law prior to the ministry of Jesus had their day of atonement when Jesus was resurrected from the dead and went into the Holy of Holies into the very presence of God with the perfect sacrifice, and His blood washes away all of the sins of those under the Law who were obedient under that covenant, and they will be raised from the dead by the Holy Spirit with a spiritual body just like of the rest of the dead in Christ. There is no difference we are all saved by faith so it might be by grace. Jesus fulfilled the Law, and we obey the Law through the spirit of Christ, but we also make mistakes, violate God's Law if only inadvertently. Without the sacrifice of Jesus none would be saved.
Quote 1Jo 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (journey42 @ June 15 2014,20:21) 942767,June wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hi J42: You said:
Quote I read those scriptures you gave. The difference is that the temple the False prophet sets himself up in is not God's Temple, but his own. A counterfeit. I am still having difficulty understanding this, I'll have to go back and read what was said.
The scripture that I quoted from 2 Thes, states that the Anti-Christ, which I assume that you are calling the “False Prophet”, sets himself up in the “Temple of God”,
and you say it is not the “Temple of God” but “his own”. It is a counterfiet?
Hi Marty
The temple he sits in is a physical temple. He builds it in Jerusalem. A blasphemy and complete abomination, because this peace of land is going to be used for Christ to rule from, his headquarters, but instead, before Christ returns, the false prophet is there ruling.
That temple the false prophet builds and sits in, is not God's temple, but a counterfeit. God's real temple is not made with hands remember?
To the world he is sitting in God's temple. They will think it's holy, but to us we know the truth.
Hi J42:It is the Jews who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah who will build this temple and they will began offering animal sacrifices again. They have not offered these sacrifices without the temple.
And there is evidence that this is the temple where the Anti-Christ is going to show himself to be God because after the Jews began offering animal sacrifice, he will at some point stop them from doing this, and then
Quote Dan 12:11
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.Dan 12:12
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.But you say that this is the temple from which Jesus will rule during the 1000 year reign?
Love in Christ,
Martyj42
the temple of jerusalem was destroyed in 70 ad ;
Jesus said that the true believers will no longer worship God in a physical temple made of stone ;
but in truth and spirit ; now the only one that as sit in that temple of truth IS CONSTANTINE ;BECAUSE HE MADE ALL PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN HIS TRUTH THAT HE MADE UP TO MAKE ALL BELIEVE IT AS BEING THE TRUTH ,
SINS THEIR IS NO MAN MADE TEMPLE BUT THAT THE TEMPLE ARE THE SOULS OF PEOPLE ;SO CONSTANTINE SITS AS THE FALSE PROPHET WITHIN THE TEMPLE (SOUL) OF THE PEOPLE AND MISLEAD THEM ;
YOUR HISTORY IS WRONG ;FOR HE PUT HIMSELF INTO THAT TEMPLE AND SIT ON THE THRONE OF GOD ,INSTEAD OF GOD ,AND CHRIST
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