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  • #248520
    david
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    Quote (Rena @ June 13 2011,22:05)

    Quote (david @ June 13 2011,06:02)
    I'm curious as to how many people on here live in the US and how bad things actually are there on the whole.


    Are you a NZer?


    Canada.

    I live in the one place in Canada where we are virtually untouched by any of this. We are booming. Houses are still going up in value. The housing market is booming, like insane. There is very little unemployment here. People are moving here. For people in this province, if they didn't watch the news, they'd have no idea any of this happened and is happening.

    But I watch a lot of news. I just wonder what it is REALLY like for most of the people in the STates.

    #248529
    terraricca
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    Quote (david @ June 14 2011,18:53)

    Quote (Rena @ June 13 2011,22:05)

    Quote (david @ June 13 2011,06:02)
    I'm curious as to how many people on here live in the US and how bad things actually are there on the whole.


    Are you a NZer?


    Canada.

    I live in the one place in Canada where we are virtually untouched by any of this.  We are booming.  Houses are still going up in value.  The housing market is booming, like insane.  There is very little unemployment here.  People are moving here.  For people in this province, if they didn't watch the news, they'd have no idea any of this happened and is happening.

    But I watch a lot of news.  I just wonder what it is REALLY like for most of the people in the STates.


    David

    I live in Canada ,and it is the same situation here as you say,

    i wander were you are ?

    Pierre

    #248531
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    #248534
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    Quote (david @ June 14 2011,11:53)
    Canada.

    I live in the one place in Canada where we are virtually untouched by any of this.  We are booming.  Houses are still going up in value.  The housing market is booming, like insane.  There is very little unemployment here.  People are moving here.  For people in this province, if they didn't watch the news, they'd have no idea any of this happened and is happening.

    But I watch a lot of news.  I just wonder what it is REALLY like for most of the people in the STates.


    Actually what I can't fathom is why the NZ dollar is so strong against the Greenback.

    We have been walloped by multiple earthquakes that have affected 10% of the population to some degree whether that is employment, business, or house damage. Parts of Christchurch our second biggest city are being abandoned. And yet our dollar keeps climbing even to the highest on record, although it just dropped a cent with the latest quake. The Aussie dollar is even stronger.

    We went through recession, but not as bad as Europe or the USA. Not even a destruction compares with what the USA went through so it seems.

    http://www.reuters.com/article….0110614

    #248569
    mikeangel
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    where the concern should come from, is that unless the US gets a grip on the insane way it runs itself, it's econimic system will collapse. When that happens, it will leave a huge hole in the world that will suck the life out of all the worlds economys much like pulling the stopper out of the drain in a tub. Look at Greece. The EU is trying to prop it up to keep it from pulling the rest of them down, but cannot get them solvent enough to loan them more money. China could take this country over just by raising our intrest a few percent, but won't because it would hurt themselves. Peace-Mark

    #248570
    mikeangel
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    Quote (t8 @ June 14 2011,13:07)

    Quote (david @ June 14 2011,11:53)
    Canada.

    I live in the one place in Canada where we are virtually untouched by any of this.  We are booming.  Houses are still going up in value.  The housing market is booming, like insane.  There is very little unemployment here.  People are moving here.  For people in this province, if they didn't watch the news, they'd have no idea any of this happened and is happening.

    But I watch a lot of news.  I just wonder what it is REALLY like for most of the people in the STates.


    Actually what I can't fathom is why the NZ dollar is so strong against the Greenback.

    We have been walloped by multiple earthquakes that have affected 10% of the population to some degree whether that is employment, business, or house damage. Parts of Christchurch our second biggest city are being abandoned. And yet our dollar keeps climbing even to the highest on record, although it just dropped a cent with the latest quake. The Aussie dollar is even stronger.

    We went through recession, but not as bad as Europe or the USA. Not even a destruction compares with what the USA went through so it seems.

    http://www.reuters.com/article….0110614


    As I understand it, NZ is a God fearing nation as a whole. Am I right? That would explain it. The nation who fears God will fare well, even in the midst of turmoil.

    #248571
    mikeangel
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    This is a fitting post in “Last days”. This is not even heard of in the media here-

    On Thursday, the International Atomic Energy Agency “de-restricted” its most recent report on Iran's nuclear progress. Despite hopes that the 2009 Stuxnet computer virus had slowed or even crippled Tehran's efforts, the IAEA reports that in the last six months Tehran had enriched some 970 kilos of uranium to reactor-grade levels, or LEU, bringing its total stockpile of LEU to 4,105 kilos.

    Iran has also enriched 56.7 kilos of uranium to a 20% level, ostensibly to produce medical isotopes but bringing it measurably closer to the 90% level needed for a bomb. Iran also announced this week that it will begin installing a more efficient type of centrifuge to enrich uranium at its once-secret facility near the city of Qom.

    The IAEA devoted considerable space to what it calls the “possible military dimensions” of Iran's nuclear program, noting that “there are indications that certain [undisclosed nuclear related activities] may have continued beyond 2004.” This further discredits the flawed and politicized 2007 U.S. National Intelligence Estimate that suggested Iran had halted its nuclear weaponization efforts after 2003. The authors of that estimate, which undermined Western efforts to stop Iran, have a lot to answer for.

    Iran's suspected activities, says the IAEA, include “producing uranium metal . . . into components relevant to a nuclear device”; “multipoint explosive initiation and hemispherical detonation studies”; and “missile re-entry vehicle redesign activities for a new payload assessed as being nuclear in nature.”

    Perhaps there's an innocent explanation for all this, like Iran wanting to achieve technological independence in the manufacture of a new generation of refrigerators. And there will always be credulous Western reporters who will take Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's word that Iran's intentions are peaceful.

    We wonder what those reporters think of an article that appeared in April on the website of the regime's Revolutionary Guards Corps and talks openly about the prospect of an Iranian nuclear test—a break from the usual Iranian policy of denying any interest in a bomb.

    “The day after [the] Islamic Republic of Iran's first nuclear test will be an ordinary day for us Iranians but in the eyes of some of us there will be a new sparkle,” reads the article. The author goes on to imagine that “the strength of the explosion was not so great as to cause severe damage to the region nor so weak that Iranian scientists face any problems running their test.”

    The day of that test may not be far off. In an analysis this month for the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, Rand scholar Gregory S. Jones writes that even in the absence of a clandestine nuclear program, “Iran can now produce a weapon's worth (20 kilograms) of HEU [weapons-grade uranium] any time it wishes. With Iran's current number of operating centrifuges, the batch recycling process would take about two months.”

    Rand later issued a press release saying that Mr. Jones's analysis was not an official Rand study, which suggests to us how reluctant members of America's foreign policy elite are to hear the truth about Iran's ambitions. If we admit the danger, then we might have to do something about it before Iran becomes a nuclear power.

    The Obama Administration has begun to take the nuclear threat from Iran more seriously after squandering a year in the fruitless pursuit of a negotiated settlement. The Administration also seems to have gotten wise to Iran's efforts to shape this Arab Spring to its own purposes, not least by backing the Assad regime in its repression of Syrians and providing support to radicals in Lebanon, Gaza and elsewhere.

    Yet so far, neither American nor U.N. sanctions have been much of a brake on the mullahs' nuclear pursuits. If President Obama is serious when he says a nuclear Iran is “unacceptable,” he'll need to do more than arrange another round of sanctions and wag a stern finger at a regime that's grown emboldened by the perception of American weakness.

    If you look into it, the president of Iran believes he will bring about the end of the world by destroying Israel. It is getting closer by the minute.

    #248580
    terraricca
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    Mark

    you start to sound like Glen Beck

    Pierre

    #248610
    mikeangel
    Participant

    This is straight off the wire. Not from me. You decide. I do not believe Glen has a grip on why this is happening, but he does know how to report the signs. If it didn't make Fox news any money, you wouldn't have heard him. Thank God there is one sliver of facts in the media. Peace-Mark

    #248673
    Rena
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    Quote (david @ June 14 2011,12:53)
     I just wonder what it is REALLY like for most of the people in the STates.


    I often wonder what it's really like for people elsewhere too. I'm in NZ and it's really not that bad. Where I live everyone's friendly and thing's. There's a lot of elderly though in my neighbourhood. Actually, theres only about two young families in the whole street.

    #248682
    theodorej
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    Quote (so-journ @ Mar. 16 2011,08:59)
    Greetings to all.

    I was wondering with the recent events in Japan….I have had friends approach me who are non Christians who are asking questions on what the bible says about these things….also I have heard through other friends who do believe…. that the holy spirit will be removed….though not from TRUE believers….any opinions here?

    Thanks.


    Greetings SJ….. The prophecy debate and subsequent opinions are confusing and replete with misinformation….I would say IMHO that our loving mercifull God will have a massive pouring out of his spirit before the end….And you will hear of wars and rumors of war and earthquakes in diverse places let your heart not be troubled for these are the beginnings of the times of trouble…We are in these times….it is the word that will be in short supply but not because God removed it but because we rejected it….pray regularly that you may be spared and survive the times just ahead of us…

    #248686
    theodorej
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    Quote (Rena @ June 15 2011,22:51)

    Quote (david @ June 14 2011,12:53)
     I just wonder what it is REALLY like for most of the people in the STates.


    I often wonder what it's really like for people elsewhere too. I'm in NZ and it's really not that bad. Where I live everyone's friendly and thing's. There's a lot of elderly though in my neighbourhood. Actually, theres only about two young families in the whole street.


    Greetings Rena ….. The US is indeed a blessed nation that has wandered from the foundational principles from which we were founded…IMHO the majority of the people in the US are caught up in a day to day existance that compels them to be competitive and with that spirit selfishness is allowed to take hold…Let us take a look at what the US has become: We cultivate and advance the pornography business which is bigger than Baseball,Basketball and Football combined….We murder inocence to the tune of three million a year and call it choice…We teach our children that pervercity is an alternate lifestyle….We have destroyed the family with divorce and sentence nurturing women to poverty….We have a drug habit that supports entire economies of countries that hate us…..This is the country we want God to bless….The American people need to change and quickly….Consider the peace you enjoy and pray for the US….

    #248721
    terraricca
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    All

    I was watching TV news and I was watching the speaker talking about 2012 December 21 as believed by many to be the end ,I have never seen so many money makers who will be collecting the money of those believers ,who have lost there mind from the truth

    Pierre

    #248769
    theodorej
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    Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2011,11:13)
    All

    I was watching TV news and I was watching the speaker talking about 2012 December 21 as believed by many to be the end ,I have never seen so many   money makers who will be collecting the money of those believers ,who have lost there mind from the truth

    Pierre


    Greetings Pierre … A very acurate observation….People should not think for one second that the Creator God is going to allow some obscure bunch of canibals and murders call an end to his creation simply because they concockted some calendar back in antiquity….Iam sure something will happen on this date and it will be a sign to all ,that, the ETERNAL GOD is still in control and we should change our ways and return to him and his law….If we do not heed this warning then the end of this age is iminent and Gods' time and patients would have run out…

    #248780
    mikeangel
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    Even if the date was true, Jesus said that for the sake of the chosen the time would be shortened, so any attempt on calling it is false prophesy. Also , no one knows the day or hour, not even Jesus. We can know the season from the other things he prophesied, and all seems to have happened, so IMHO, it would be a win-win idea for everyone to live as it were today, which if you love God you should be doing anyway. Peace

    #248842
    theodorej
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    Quote (mikeangel @ June 17 2011,03:39)
    Even if the date was true, Jesus said that for the sake of the chosen the time would be shortened, so any attempt on calling it is false prophesy. Also , no one knows the day or hour, not even Jesus. We can know the season from the other things he prophesied, and all seems to have happened, so IMHO, it would be a win-win idea for everyone to live as it were today, which if you love God you should be doing anyway. Peace


    Greetings Marc …. At some point I would have to think that Jesus would know the time simply because he is the one who is returning…. The trumpets of Revelation have a time span and they follow each other and the period in between the trumpets speak of woes that will befall the inhabitants of the earth all these events are set in time….those who are called can easily see the signs of the times…It is true none us know the time or the hour….

    #248861
    terraricca
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    Theo

    I still take the example of the ten maiden the five foolish ones and the five wise ones both went to sleep but the five wise ones had oil reserves with them ,and so end up enter or answer the call.

    what is the oil ?

    Pierre

    #248923
    theodorej
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    Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2011,05:48)
    Theo

    I still take the example of the ten maiden the five foolish ones and the five wise ones both went to sleep but the five wise ones had oil reserves with them ,and so end up enter or answer the call.

    what is the oil ?

    Pierre


    Greetings Pierre ….. The ten maidens is an applicable parable,however,it is not readily discernable or applicable to the end time senerio, although a knowledgable bible scholor can easily equate it ….An interesting development in Israel is a foot thanks to modern technology Israel is now a potential global oil source….

    #248933
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ June 19 2011,06:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2011,05:48)
    Theo

    I still take the example of the ten maiden the five foolish ones and the five wise ones both went to sleep but the five wise ones had oil reserves with them ,and so end up enter or answer the call.

    what is the oil ?

    Pierre


    Greetings Pierre ….. The ten maidens is an applicable parable,however,it is not readily discernable or applicable to the end time senerio, although a knowledgable bible scholor can easily equate it ….An interesting development in Israel is a foot thanks to modern technology Israel is now a potential global oil source….


    Theo

    does it really mater that it is the end or not ?when you ready to meet your end and facing God knowing you have loved him and have done all you can with his help ,
    and looked for his truth ,

    what you think?

    Pierre

    #249003
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ June 18 2011,23:55)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 18 2011,05:48)
    Theo

    I still take the example of the ten maiden the five foolish ones and the five wise ones both went to sleep but the five wise ones had oil reserves with them ,and so end up enter or answer the call.

    what is the oil ?

    Pierre


    Greetings Pierre ….. The ten maidens is an applicable parable,however,it is not readily discernable or applicable to the end time senerio, although a knowledgable bible scholor can easily equate it ….An interesting development in Israel is a foot thanks to modern technology Israel is now a potential global oil source….


    I'm no Bible scholor, but I do think that it prophesies the end. I think the virgins represent the members of God's church, half were sensible, half were not. The groom(Jesus) delayed his coming. They all began to nod, then fall asleep. I think the world is asleep. Half were truely God's people, and served him with a loving heart, the rest felt good in church and just went through the motions, and loved mostly themselves. All the while the world has glorified idols and evil and not even known it. At the outcry, they all woke up.( God will send the message to the world that he is real and not  a “tale” as alot of people believe, also the truth will be revealed to the world, thats why they wake up) When that happens, the ones who have been living for themselves will ask the sensible ones “Give us some of your oil, our lamps are going out”. but, they will reply “you better go to the dealers(God, and the spirit) and buy yourselves some for yourselves. The ones who were ready will go into the wedding(into Jesus' Kingdom) will go in. Then the door was barred. (Beware, I come like a thief) Then that half that was asleep and had nothing to offer God and lived for themselves and this world will come back (cry out to God) and plead “open the door for us” and he will say ” I never knew you.” And then there will be wailing and grinding of teeth, because they will be forever separated from God.  The oil, IMHO, is the same as the white dress in Revalation 19:7 “Let us rejoyce and be glad, and give him glory! For this is the wedding day of the Lamb;(groom) His bride has prepared herself for the wedding. She has been given a dress to wear, made of finest linen, brilliant white.” It goes on to say “The linen dress is the virtuous deeds of God's saints”. I believe this is the oil, same as the dress.

    Now, I am not saying that one can earn grace. Only Jesus did that. But also IMHO, your faith isn't from your deeds, your deeds are from your faith, which if you have genuine faith, you will most gladly do. It separates the “doers” from the “sayers”.Also the wicked do bad deeds. The good do virtuous deeds. God knows which is which because he sees everything.  Store up oil, at the outcry it will be too late……..

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