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  • #239392
    so-journ
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    Greetings to all.

    I was wondering with the recent events in Japan….I have had friends approach me who are non Christians who are asking questions on what the bible says about these things….also I have heard through other friends who do believe…. that the holy spirit will be removed….though not from TRUE believers….any opinions here?

    Thanks.

    #239397
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (so-journ @ Mar. 16 2011,08:59)
    Greetings to all.

    I have heard through other friends who do believe…. that the holy spirit will be removed….though not from TRUE believers….any opinions here?

    Thanks.


    Hi Sojourn,

    This is very hazy?   …what exactly are you saying here?

    Also, welcome to h-net!

    God bless  
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239399
    so-journ
    Participant

    Greetings Ed.

    Its just something I heard though I don't know how much truth there is in it….that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the Earth in the Last Days….I need to find out more about this though….and was wondering if anyone here knows anything at all about this?

    Thanks…. Peace and Love.

    #239402
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (so-journ @ Mar. 16 2011,09:27)
    Greetings Ed.

    Its just something I heard though I don't know how much truth there is in it….that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the Earth in the Last Days….I need to find out more about this though….and was wondering if anyone here knows anything at all about this?

    Thanks…. Peace and Love.


    Hi Sojourn,

    They could be referring the the PHONY 'rapture doctrine'; aye?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239409
    so-journ
    Participant

    Hello Ed.

    They could be talking about the rapture…. but Matthew 24 is definitely taking place…. the Holy Spirit can be grieved and quenched…. and it will be as it was before the flood came and took them all away.

    Any thoughts on this?

    #239416
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (so-journ @ Mar. 16 2011,09:51)
    Hello Ed.

    They could be talking about the rapture…. but Matthew 24 is definitely taking place…. the Holy Spirit can be grieved and quenched…. and it will be as it was before the flood came and took them all away.

    Any thoughts on this?


    Hi Sojourn,

    Yes; …God will burn up all the 'rudiments'.

    First: in Noah's flood, all flesh was destroyed.
    NOW: all 'flesh mindedness' is going to burn up!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239417
    Ed J
    Participant

    Also…

    1Cor.15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual,
    but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

    Heb.12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised,
    saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239418
    so-journ
    Participant

    Hello Ed.

    We are in the Last Days….This is what we should be talking about…. it effects the Whole World….and it will only get worse….We need to pray for the World!

    I don't quite follow what you are saying here Ed, I apologise.

    All through the New Testament is what will happen in the Last Days….the early Apostles believed they were in the Last Days themselves….but as Christ said….no one knows the Day or the Hour….Only our Father in Heaven.

    And here we are today.

    Peace and Love.

    #239420
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Sojourn,

                    The “ONLY” 'end' is the end of satan's deceptions! (Eccl.1:4)

    Read carefully Daniel 7:14 And there was given him(Jesus) dominion, and glory, and a kingdom,
    that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion,
    which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. (Isaiah 9:7 / Eph.3:21)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239421
    mikeangel
    Participant

    I think it was John who said we were in the last hour. In the context of the last 2000 years, against millions of years of history, it would relitively be the last hour. Now, as you say, with the pains of labor coming closer and closer together, and the moral freefall we are witnessing, it would stand to reason that this is the last seconds, relatively speaking. You are correct. What the rapture entails is a mystery Ed, I do not agree with your opinion on this. Jesus said ” Two will be grinding meal, one will be taken, the other left” Where lord? and he said “where the carcass lies, the vultures will gather”. Ed you can't say definitely either way about the rapture, and what it involves imo, but, it doesn't matter, because after whatever is going to happen-happens, and it could be any day, you will know for sure, and until that happens you don't, imo.Peace-Mark

    #239423
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Also what about the sky being rolled up like a scroll? The mountains and Islands disappearing? The elements being melted by fire and how everything is to be distroyed in this way. Isaiahs apocolypse says the earth will be completely destroyed. with all these prophecies, how do you get that the world will not end?

    #239424
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    Your the one that doesn't know!
    You remind me of Stuart the 'atheist'.
    He says he's Agnostic and so is everybody.

    But I tell him: I KNOW GOD EXISTS.
    You are doing the same thing as Stuart!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239425
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,10:52)
    Hi Sojourn,

                    The “ONLY” 'end' is the end of satan's deceptions! (Eccl.1:4)

    Read carefully Daniel 7:14 And there was given him(Jesus) dominion, and glory, and a kingdom,
    that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion,
    which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. (Isaiah 9:7 / Eph.3:21)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “See, I make everything new” The non-ending Kingdom is after the world is re-created. This one is almost past the point of no return anyway. I can't even eat fish out of the Mississippi anymore. The fish in the gulf have mercury poisoning. etc. etc.

    #239426
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 16 2011,11:07)
    Also what about the sky being rolled up like a scroll? The mountains and Islands disappearing? The elements being melted by fire and how everything is to be distroyed in this way. Isaiahs apocolypse says the earth will be completely destroyed. with all these prophecies, how do you get that the world will not end?


    Hi Mark,

    Look up the word 'elements', it means 'rudiments'.

    Compare 2Peter 3:12 with Col:2:8 and Col:2:20.

    Eccl.1:4 One generation passeth away, and another
    generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239427
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,11:08)
    Hi Mark,

    Your the one that doesn't know!
    You remind me of Stuart the 'atheist'.
    He says he's Agnostic and so is everybody.

    But I tell him: I KNOW GOD EXISTS.
    You are doing the same thing as Stuart!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed what have you been smoking? How do you get that since I believe God will re-create the world that I think he doesn't exist?

    #239428
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 16 2011,11:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,10:52)
    Hi Sojourn,

                    The “ONLY” 'end' is the end of satan's deceptions! (Eccl.1:4)

    Read carefully Daniel 7:14 And there was given him(Jesus) dominion, and glory, and a kingdom,
    that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion,
    which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. (Isaiah 9:7 / Eph.3:21)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “See, I make everything new”  The non-ending Kingdom is after the world is re-created. This one is almost past the point of no return anyway. I can't even eat fish out of the Mississippi anymore. The fish in the gulf have mercury poisoning. etc. etc.


    Hi Mark,

    For SF's sake, here is how the word “New” is defined in both Rev.12:1 and 2 Peter 3:13
    Greek #2537 καινός (kainos) kähē-nôs': new (freshness ith respect to age), youthful, fresh, regenerate:-new, young

    [καινός] should have been translated as “renewed” like [ἀνακαινόω] from 303 and 2537
    Greek #341 ἀνακαινόω (anakainoó) ăn-äk-ähē-nô'-ō: to rejuvenate:-renew

    2Cor.4:16 For which cause we faint not;
    but though our outward man perish,
    yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

    [καινός] is also used in Rom.6:4 and Rom.7:6 as well
    Rom.6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
    that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,
    even so we also should walk in newness(καινός) of life.

    Rom.7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held;
    that we should serve in newness(καινός) of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239429
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Mar. 16 2011,11:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 16 2011,11:08)
    Hi Mark,

    Your the one that doesn't know!
    You remind me of Stuart the 'atheist'.
    He says he's Agnostic and so is everybody.

    But I tell him: I KNOW GOD EXISTS.
    You are doing the same thing as Stuart!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed what have you been smoking? How do you get that since I believe God will re-create the world that I think he doesn't exist?


    Hi Mark,

                  Clearly you 'missed' my point!

    Atheists believe that nobody can know more than they do!
    You are 'like' an atheist in that YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #239430
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Isaiah 28:22 “Now, be arrogant no more lest your bonds be tightened, For I have heard from the Lord, the God of host, the DESTRUCTION DECREED FOR THE WHOLE EARTH.” emphasis added

    #239431
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Woe to those who are wise in their own esteem

    #239433
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Isaiah 65:17-25 (King James Version)

    17For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

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