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Hi BD,
I know what the words “Prophecy” and “Prophet” mean,
BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE GOD'S WORD: “THE BIBLE”!(Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached““the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” (Rev 19:10)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,09:21) Hi BD, I know what the words “Prophecy” and “Prophet” mean,
BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE GOD'S WORD: “THE BIBLE”!(Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached““the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” (Rev 19:10)
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
AI said you do not know what a Prophet is if you do please tell me what is a prophet?It has not always to do with the future so what is a prophet?
How is someone a “false Prophet”? You said Muhammad was a False Prophet so why would he qualify?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,09:32) do please tell me what is a prophet?
You said I wasn't your teacher here…https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y341071
Yet you ask me to teach? …so make up your mind!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,09:32) How is someone a “false Prophet”? You said Muhammad was a False Prophet so why would he qualify?
(Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached““But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name,
which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in
the name of other gods(al-Lah), even that prophet shall die.” (Deut 18:20)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,09:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,09:32) do please tell me what is a prophet?
You said I wasn't your teacher here…https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y341071
Yet you ask me to teach? …so make up your mind!
I ve never asked you to teach, why are you misleading people? Asking you to explain your view is not asking you to “teach” do you think when a policeman questions a Murderer that he is asking the murderer to be there teacher?Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,09:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,09:32) How is someone a “false Prophet”? You said Muhammad was a False Prophet so why would he qualify?
(Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached““But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name,
which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in
the name of other gods(al-Lah), even that prophet shall die.” (Deut 18:20)
So, you are a false Prophet because you continue to speak in the name of God but you were not commanded by God to do so, were you?Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,12:31) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,09:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,09:32) How is someone a “false Prophet”? You said Muhammad was a False Prophet so why would he qualify?
(Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached““But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name,
which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in
the name of other gods(al-Lah), even that prophet shall die.” (Deut 18:20)
So, you are a false Prophet because you continue to speak in the name of God but you were not commanded by God to do so, were you?
So because I expose YOUR 'false prophet' for the 'false prophet' he is,
you want to claim me to be one as well? …this is comical to say the least.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,14:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,12:31) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2012,09:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 28 2012,09:32) How is someone a “false Prophet”? You said Muhammad was a False Prophet so why would he qualify?
(Luke 16:16) “The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached““But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name,
which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in
the name of other gods(al-Lah), even that prophet shall die.” (Deut 18:20)
So, you are a false Prophet because you continue to speak in the name of God but you were not commanded by God to do so, were you?
So because I expose YOUR 'false prophet' for the 'false prophet' he is,
you want to claim me to be one as well? …this is comical to say the least.
Dd or did not God command you to go forth with your gematria message or was it your own idea?Know your context:
Shimmer asked this question elsewhere:
'Can Water ever get Drunk'
If 'yes' – how?
If 'No' – why not?Hi BD,
I don't usually talk about Theomatics(numbers in Scripture) with beginner Christians,
but Atheists and those claiming to be Agnostic is different, needing the exposure!
As personal testimony of “God” means absolutely NOTHING to these people.
So let me tell you mine: I've had my understanding of God for 30 years
before numbers (such as you see in my Posts) were introduced to me.Have any of you ever seen the Jim Cary movie called: ‘Bruce Almighty’?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past one sign that says “Bridge Out” and then another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the “many signs”, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.
That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care” and still I kept seeing the number 54,
but didn't have a clue as to why? Then I was introduced to a book called Theomatics II by Author Del Washburn.Or Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took
me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and God has called me
to write a book that now documents the very “PROOF of God's existence”.
I have no buffeting spirit, like the Apostle Paul had, as I have no ego.
YHVH=63 has even wrote about me in his book: “The Bible”=63.This has only been done (as I see things) to be used as conclusive proof of GOD's existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of ‘crackpots’.
My good friend Gary Robb once said: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
But God's kingdom is “real” and the extent of this proof is yet to be revealed to all.Sorry for the Autobiography, but it is necessary to this thread.
Numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,09:23) Hi BD, I don't usually talk about Theomatics(numbers in Scripture) with beginner Christians,
but Atheists and those claiming to be Agnostic is different, needing the exposure!
As personal testimony of “God” means absolutely NOTHING to these people.
So let me tell you mine: I've had my understanding of God for 30 years
before numbers (such as you see in my Posts) were introduced to me.Have any of you ever seen the Jim Cary movie called: ‘Bruce Almighty’?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past one sign that says “Bridge Out” and then another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the “many signs”, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.
That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care” and still I kept seeing the number 54,
but didn't have a clue as to why? Then I was introduced to a book called Theomatics II by Author Del Washburn.Or Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took
me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and God has called me
to write a book that now documents the very “PROOF of God's existence”.
I have no buffeting spirit, like the Apostle Paul had, as I have no ego.
YHVH=63 has even wrote about me in his book: “The Bible”=63.This has only been done (as I see things) to be used as conclusive proof of GOD's existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of ‘crackpots’.
My good friend Gary Robb once said: “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
But God's kingdom is “real” and the extent of this proof is yet to be revealed to all.Sorry for the Autobiography, but it is necessary to this thread.
Numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
So God told Amos to go be a prophet and you considered that God talking to you? In other words God did not command ED J to go do anything nor was God a producer of the Jim Carey movie.Personal testimonies do mean something to anyone who you are appealing to. Besides that as a Christian you were directly told:
1.1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.Who told you to that atheist were really numerical mystics that only needed some numbers to check out before they believe?
ED your whole theory of what would convince someone of the existence of God is plain silly.
Do you think if you told someone who happened to be atheist and was illiterate that God makes you understand words and then you tutored them and taught them to read proving that words have meaning that they would believe in God because of it?
Let's say you “theomatics” was airtight and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that all the numbers you use cross check perfectly with the king james bible and no other words added up to these sums how would that prove God?
You are saying that I could purposely write a document with theomatics in mind and then claim divinity in my writings it's rather silly. A magician practices thoroughly before he convinces his audience in the Magic this is how he gets the prestige that you are attempting to have.
Ed and Bod, it's the words that save us. The words that Jesus spoke, not numbers, and not some other words. His sheep hear his voice and follow him.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 29 2012,10:05) 1.1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Hi BD,This is something you profess not to believe.
Have you repented and turned to God now?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,10:33) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 29 2012,10:05) 1.1 Corinthians 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Hi BD,This is something you profess not to believe.
Have you repented and turned to God now?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Peaching the cross, does lead people to God and that is what you as a Christian are supposed to do.Muslims don't preach the Cross, we preach the Compassion and Mercy of God
In essence the point is the same, God's Compassion and Mercy. Theomatics does not teach Compassion or Mercy it is a study in vanity. Do you LOVE GOD, ED? I have never seen you post it. ou never seem to be speaking from the heart and soul.
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BD said:Quote Do you LOVE GOD, ED? YHVH + Love = “God The Father”
2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father,
and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34).
BD also said:Quote Muslims don't preach the Cross Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant,
wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,16:37) .
BD said:Quote Do you LOVE GOD, ED? YHVH + Love = “God The Father”
2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father,
and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Hi BD, here are some verses for you to think on…John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is
shed abroad in our hearts by the HolySpirit which is given unto us.In the love of YHVH,
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,16:45) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,16:37) .
BD said:Quote Do you LOVE GOD, ED? YHVH + Love = “God The Father”
2 John 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father,
and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)
B'shem, YHVH (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Hi BD, here are some verses for you to think on…John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is
shed abroad in our hearts by the HolySpirit which is given unto us.In the love of YHVH,
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
EDYou still have not said simply that you love God and I don't understand why.
How do you equate John 3:16 with death? Do you assume that “gave his only begotten son” implies gave over to death?
Why do you think Jesus said it was not “his” will to be crucified?
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,16:37) .
BD also said:Quote Muslims don't preach the Cross Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant,
wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Hebrews 10:29 cannot be applied to make a point here because no Muslim would say that the blood of the covenant is an Unholy thing because most importantly that would be agreeing such “Blood Covenant” in the terms you believe actually occured.Remember you are discussing Jesus with someone who believes that God saved Jesus from crucifixion, to you this seems unholy to me it is very Holy:
Psalm 30:3
O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.Psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.Sura #4
157 That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
158 Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 30 2012,04:35) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2012,16:37) .
BD also said:Quote Muslims don't preach the Cross Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy,
who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant,
wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Hebrews 10:29 cannot be applied to make a point here because no Muslim would say that the blood of the covenant is an Unholy thing because most importantly that would be agreeing such “Blood Covenant” in the terms you believe actually occured.Remember you are discussing Jesus with someone who believes that God saved Jesus from crucifixion, to you this seems unholy to me it is very Holy:
Psalm 30:3
O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.Psalm 49:15
But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.Sura #4
157 That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
158 Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
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