Kingdom of the antichrist

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Who is allah?

Enjoy!

October 25, 2010 at 8:13 pm#221380

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bod

you say;;Then you are supporting the perfect reason for Islam to be sent down to Muhammad by God because God is not a trinity and the church was in a complete state of Apostasy

do not get me wrong;the scriptures called it the beast that comes out of the earth ,and call it the false prophet,
and the beast and the false prophet will be trown in the lake of fire that mean final destruction.

how can i support that ,what stands against the almighty God Jehovah.??

this would mean that i would agree with all that organization ever did,
( i am not catholic)

Pierre

Islam is no such thing and you should be ashamed to even say such garbage without any even remote evidence.

You are not Catholic or any other Christian you are a secular agnostic

bod

since Moses ,there was one prophete announced by God trough Moses,and it was not Mohammad, it was Jesus Christ the Son of God.

so anyone else is a fake or false.according to the scriptures.

and i do believe the scriptures.

Pierre

So if you believe the scriptures then you should believe this

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joel 2:27-29

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Acts 2:16-18

Apostle Paul was prophesying doesn't that make him a prophet not to mention Paul says there are those that prophesy

Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
Romans 12:5-7

To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1 Corinthians 12:9-11

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
1 Corinthians 13:1-3

So there is no mention of any last prophet here at all and since you believe the scriptures I have shown you them for your consideration

bod

all those are devoted Jews or Christians who were serving Jehovah there God,

and most of those prophecies have been accomplish at the time of the apostles.

and do not try to bring the Koran to be equal to the bible,

because he is not ,if you want i can show you,but you know that.

Pierre

Once again you make no sense, what Bible?

The Bible is not a book it is a collection of books and letters so when you say Bible just remember that.

Which Bible are you talking about some bibles have 66 books and some have 73 and the Jews don't agree that the NT has anything to do with them

They have the TORAH. The Muslims have the Quran which is a single book and not a collection

So first tell me which Bible and which canon of books are you even speaking about because there are many canons as well

look below taken from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

The Bible (from Greek τὰ βιβλία ta biblia “the books”) is a collection of sacred scripture of both Judaism and Christianity. There is no single version; both the individual books (Biblical canon) and their order vary between denominations. The Jewish Tanakh divides the Hebrew Bible into 24 books, while the same texts are usually arranged as 39 books in Christian Old Testaments. Complete Christian Bibles range from the 66 books of the Protestant canon to the 81 books in the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible.[1]

So which Bible is the first question

But also show me how the Quaran is not equal to the Bible

October 25, 2010 at 8:26 pm#221383

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Who is allah?

Enjoy!

Who is Allah?

October 25, 2010 at 8:36 pm#221385

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Who is a Muslim?

October 25, 2010 at 8:39 pm#221387

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Constantine and the truth

October 25, 2010 at 9:20 pm#221395

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bod

you say;;Then you are supporting the perfect reason for Islam to be sent down to Muhammad by God because God is not a trinity and the church was in a complete state of Apostasy

how can i support that ,what stands against the almighty God Jehovah.??

this would mean that i would agree with all that organization ever did,
( i am not catholic)

Pierre

Islam is no such thing and you should be ashamed to even say such garbage without any even remote evidence.

You are not Catholic or any other Christian you are a secular agnostic

bod

since Moses ,there was one prophete announced by God trough Moses,and it was not Mohammad, it was Jesus Christ the Son of God.

so anyone else is a fake or false.according to the scriptures.

and i do believe the scriptures.

Pierre

So if you believe the scriptures then you should believe this

Apostle Paul was prophesying doesn't that make him a prophet not to mention Paul says there are those that prophesy

Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
Romans 12:5-7

To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1 Corinthians 12:9-11

So there is no mention of any last prophet here at all and since you believe the scriptures I have shown you them for your consideration

bod

all those are devoted Jews or Christians who were serving Jehovah there God,

and most of those prophecies have been accomplish at the time of the apostles.

and do not try to bring the Koran to be equal to the bible,

because he is not ,if you want i can show you,but you know that.

Pierre

Once again you make no sense, what Bible?

The Bible is not a book it is a collection of books and letters so when you say Bible just remember that.

Which Bible are you talking about some bibles have 66 books and some have 73 and the Jews don't agree that the NT has anything to do with them

They have the TORAH. The Muslims have the Quran which is a single book and not a collection

So first tell me which Bible and which canon of books are you even speaking about because there are many canons as well

look below taken from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible

So which Bible is the first question

But also show me how the Quaran is not equal to the Bible

bod

the protestant seems to have enough books in it ,
you say;
But also show me how the Quaran is not equal to the Bible

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the bible like i say is the word of the wisdom of God trough righteous man,

the Quran is more like the book of Mormon from Joseph Smith,

Quran written by Muhammad copy some out of the Torah (O.T)

there all false because the Christ (anointed one ) did already came and so no need to have any other.

Jesus Christ was the son of God;now we accept this or not that s the question.

Pierre

October 25, 2010 at 9:22 pm#221396

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bod

Constantine the first 306AD is the man of lawlessness, the Antichrist the catholic church.

Pierre

October 27, 2010 at 5:50 pm#221641

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bod

what s up ??

the Koran has no need for ,God the creator has his son to show all things, no other god can be worshiped,only
Jehovah that s is his name,

Pierre

October 27, 2010 at 6:39 pm#221643

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bod

the protestant seems to have enough books in it ,
you say;
But also show me how the Quaran is not equal to the Bible

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the bible like i say is the word of the wisdom of God trough righteous man,

the Quran is more like the book of Mormon from Joseph Smith,

Quran written by Muhammad copy some out of the Torah (O.T)

there all false because the Christ (anointed one ) did already came and so no need to have any other.

Jesus Christ was the son of God;now we accept this or not that s the question.

Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

Here is what Wm said in another thread…

Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 21 2010,13:01)

bodhitharta,
The only one “tampering” with the written word of God is you. You twist what is said and call His very word into doubt (sounds familiar). You “use” Bible verses taken out of context to “prove your point” while rejecting the other 95% that prove you wrong, all along pushing your brand of islam.

My opinion – Wm

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

October 27, 2010 at 6:39 pm#221644

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bod

what s up ??

the Koran has no need for ,God the creator has his son to show all things, no other god can be worshiped,only
Jehovah that s is his name,

Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

BD worships satan who wrote the koran.

October 27, 2010 at 6:40 pm#221645

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HI Everyone,

The dome of the rock is the abomination of desolation,
and can be proven using prophecy written in The Bible!

Enjoy!

October 27, 2010 at 7:13 pm#221646

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2010,04:50)

bod

what s up ??

the Koran has no need for ,God the creator has his son to show all things, no other god can be worshiped,only
Jehovah that s is his name,

Pierre

Then what was the need for Paul?

October 27, 2010 at 7:27 pm#221647

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bod

what s up ??

the Koran has no need for ,God the creator has his son to show all things, no other god can be worshiped,only
Jehovah that s is his name,

Pierre

Hi Terraricca,

BD worships satan who wrote the koran.

Then why does the Quran say that Allah cast out Satan
you must not believe what Jesus says:

And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
Matthew 12:25-27

And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
Mark 3:22-24

They accused Christ just how ED accuses the Quran of being written by Satan

Mark 3:22-24 (King James Version)
22And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

ED is very similar to a scribe except he uses numbers to make up things and then say that they came from God

Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
Jeremiah 14:13-15

So how could the Quran be written by Satan and cast out Satan? The very words of Jesus mean you don't make sense

And when thou recitest the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from satan the outcast.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #98)

And so ED I seek refuge in Allah from you being Satanic and preading false information and lying on Allah(your Lord and mines)

October 27, 2010 at 9:12 pm#221651

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bod

you say;;Then why does the Quran say that Allah cast out Satan(THIS AS NO MEANING,FALSE PROPHET WRITES KORAN,HE SO WRITES WHAT EVER APPEALS TO HIM AND MAKE SURE HE HAS THE POWER JUST LIKE SATAN DID ,)
you must not believe what Jesus says:

And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?(THIS IS NOT THE SAME APPLICATION OF THOSE WORDS)
Matthew 12:25-27

And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?(AGAIN WRONG APPLICATION OF THE WORDS OF CHRIST)
Mark 3:22-24

They accused Christ just how ED accuses the Quran of being written by Satan(I BELIEVE EDJ LOOKS AT THE FRUITS THAT Islam WITH THE KORAN HAS PRODUCED ;LIKE THE VIOLENCE ,THE DECIET,THE WICKETNESS,AND THE TOLORANCE OF THE WICKETNESS BY THERE MEMBERS)

Mark 3:22-24 (King James Version)
22And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. (AGAIN THOSE ARE YOUR MIS QUOTING WITH THE INTENTION TO DECIEVE YOUR LISTENER)

ED is very similar to a scribe except he uses numbers to make up things and then say that they came from God( I AGREE WITH YOU HERE.)

So how could the Quran be written by Satan and cast out Satan? The very words of Jesus mean you don't make sense(DO YOU NOW BELIEVE YOU HAVE DECIEVED ME ?? THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPHETE AND THE KORAN IS TO GLORIFIE
MEN AND FASE HOOD ,DECIET,LOOK WHAT THEY HAVE PRODUCED IN ALL THE COUNTRY THEY LIVE,CORRUPTION ,CRIME,ABUSES,WAR,ECT

And when thou recitest the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from satan the outcast.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #98)

And so ED I seek refuge in Allah from you being Satanic and preading false information and lying on Allah(your Lord and mines)

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Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships Our Father as The Only True God.
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YOU CAN NOT SERVE THE GOD OF THE JEWS AND SERVE ISLAM,I BELIEVE YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED ,BUT ON THE OTHER HAND YOU ARE THE BEST PLACED TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED AND FOR WHICH REASONS YOU DO IT ,

BUT CHRIST IS THE SON OF THE GOD JEHOVAH ,GOD OF THE JEWS.

Pierre

October 27, 2010 at 10:07 pm#221656

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2010,08:12)

bod

And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?(THIS IS NOT THE SAME APPLICATION OF THOSE WORDS)
Matthew 12:25-27

And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?(AGAIN WRONG APPLICATION OF THE WORDS OF CHRIST)
Mark 3:22-24

ED is very similar to a scribe except he uses numbers to make up things and then say that they came from God( I AGREE WITH YOU HERE.)

And when thou recitest the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from satan the outcast.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #98)

And so ED I seek refuge in Allah from you being Satanic and preading false information and lying on Allah(your Lord and mines)

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Peace and blessings upon Jesus The Christ forever, He puts no partners with God and worships Our Father as The Only True God.
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YOU CAN NOT SERVE THE GOD OF THE JEWS AND SERVE ISLAM,I BELIEVE YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED ,BUT ON THE OTHER HAND YOU ARE THE BEST PLACED TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED AND FOR WHICH REASONS YOU DO IT ,

BUT CHRIST IS THE SON OF THE GOD JEHOVAH ,GOD OF THE JEWS.

Pierre

Is there any violence in the Bible that God condones or even moreso commands?

Did not Samuel cut into pieces the King of the Amalekites and was angry that King Saul had not killed him?

I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. (1 Samuel 15:2-3)

Saul warns the Kenites, who dwell among the Amalekites, to move away from them. He then “attacked the Amalekites all the way from Havilah to Shur, to the east of Egypt. He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.” (1 Samuel 15:7-8) According to the prophet Samuel, however, God was not satisfied with this. For sparing Agag and allowing Israel's soldiers to plunder some of the Amalekite cattle, God rejects Saul as king. Samuel himself finishes the slaughter of the Amalekites by “hewing Agag in pieces before the Lord.” (1 Samuel 15:33)

1 Samuel 15:33 (King James Version)
33And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.

Sounds like the same violence you accuse Islam of

October 27, 2010 at 10:09 pm#221657

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ED you do realize that if you are right about the dome of the rock what do you think will occur if it is replaced with another temple and Sacrificing there is allowed wouldn't that simply show that Jesus was not any sort of last sacrifice for all the world?

October 27, 2010 at 10:31 pm#221659

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Ya'akov Ofir holds that the Dome of the Rock was built in 691CE for the Jews as their “last house” of prayer by their ally Abd el-Malik, the Umayyad ruler of Damascus …
http://www.factbites.com/topics/Dome-of-the-Rock

The Riddle of the Dome of the Rock: Was it Built as a Jewish Place of Prayer?

One of the most fascinating questions about the Temple Mount after the Islamic occupation in 638 A.D. is connected with the Dome of the Rock. Important scientific research conducted by Ya'akov Ofir holds that the Dome of the Rock was built in 691 A.D. for the Jews as their “last house” of prayer by their ally Abd el-Malik, the Umayyad ruler of Damascus, who also controlled the land of Israel in those days. The Jews who built the house believed that their redemption had already come. Ofir's conclusion is that the Dome of the Rock is a Jewish building.

Another problem that you haven't considered ED, if the Dome of the Rock is not the third temple then what do you think if the Jews make another temple it still will not be a house of praise for Christ so how does that work out in your head.

October 27, 2010 at 11:06 pm#221660

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 28 2010,13:13)

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bod

what s up ??

the Koran has no need for ,God the creator has his son to show all things, no other god can be worshiped,only
Jehovah that s is his name,

Pierre

Then what was the need for Paul?

bod

Paul ,was preaching to the gentiles the God of the Jews ,Jehovah,

so to the gentiles he is critical

Pierre

October 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm#221662

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 28 2010,16:31)

The Riddle of the Dome of the Rock: Was it Built as a Jewish Place of Prayer?

bod

all that is idolatry,God trough Christ is now working in us the believers of Jehovah,

the dome of the rock,is just a rock,it as no meaning for the true worshipers of Jehovah God,

Pierre

October 27, 2010 at 11:21 pm#221664