Kingdom of the antichrist

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 17 2010,07:58)

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 16 2010,01:09) Greetings Shimmer……Walid is no stranger to the media world,he is sought after for speaking engagements and news commentary on a regular basis,and paid quite well I might say….This man is a self proclaimed terrorist and a murderer who under the auspices of Jihad participated in the taking of lives…..These are not accusations from me,but statements from him…I applaud his repentance and I thank God for his mercy and the forgiveness of sins…This mans conversion to christianity is the first step in his repentance the second step should be accountability for his actions…NOT Celebrity… Greetings Shimmer….We are not to believe anything….We are to prove all things….The term anti christ is bantered around quite abit….its application is fairly simple Anti=opposition=against….Christ= God=Son of God=Savior as you see this is a broad description that can apply to any person ( many of us),place(church or mindset) or thing(idols)….Mr Shabbat may very well be an authority on this topic…it is up to us to prove it to ourselves…[/quote] I personally think Antichrist is anyone person who can pull an individual or group of people away from truth and faith in God and the Son.  By causing them to sin or causing them to lose faith, etc

When does Christ=God?

A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?
Malachi 1:5-7

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Matthew 6:12-14

[shimmer]

Hi Bod. I never wrote that bit, Theodore did.

You know what I believe. God is God, the Son is the Son. As it says.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2010,14:31)

Quote (PaulCohen @ Nov. 17 2010,12:34) That can’t be said of Muhammad, because he wasn’t the express image of God, come in the flesh. His works were of the devil; so are yours. Why do you say that? What is written in the Quran that is morally different than the Bible?

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The quran has 114 chapters called suras and is the 'book of fraud'!

                          'quran book'  =114
                           'evil curse'    =114    
                           'Lucifer liar'  =114
                          'allah is devil' =114
                           'quran false' =114
                         'book of fraud'=114                  
                     'a moongod bible'=114  
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[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 17 2010,21:05)

Hi Bod. I never wrote that bit, Theodore did. You know what I believe. God is God, the Son is the Son. As it says.

I apoloize

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2010,21:38)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2010,14:31) Quote (PaulCohen @ Nov. 17 2010,12:34) That can’t be said of Muhammad, because he wasn’t the express image of God, come in the flesh. His works were of the devil; so are yours. Why do you say that? What is written in the Quran that is morally different than the Bible? . The quran has 114 chapters called suras and is the 'book of fraud'!                           'quran book'  =114                            'evil curse'    =114                                'Lucifer liar'  =114                           'allah is devil' =114                            'quran false' =114                          'book of fraud'=114                                        'a moongod bible'=114   .

Keep the faith=114
The grace of God=114

No need to go any further with that, your attacks have all ben neutralized. I have already told you the only thing for you to do now is to turn over a new leaf and be positive and try to learn the beautiful things about God.

Try to go back in time and remember when you wanted to share the love of God with others it's a good place to start because right now iniquity is just dripping all over you

[theodorej]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2010,10:44)

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 17 2010,07:58) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 16 2010,01:09) Greetings Shimmer……Walid is no stranger to the media world,he is sought after for speaking engagements and news commentary on a regular basis,and paid quite well I might say….This man is a self proclaimed terrorist and a murderer who under the auspices of Jihad participated in the taking of lives…..These are not accusations from me,but statements from him…I applaud his repentance and I thank God for his mercy and the forgiveness of sins…This mans conversion to christianity is the first step in his repentance the second step should be accountability for his actions…NOT Celebrity… Greetings Shimmer….We are not to believe anything….We are to prove all things….The term anti christ is bantered around quite abit….its application is fairly simple Anti=opposition=against….Christ= God=Son of God=Savior as you see this is a broad description that can apply to any person ( many of us),place(church or mindset) or thing(idols)….Mr Shabbat may very well be an authority on this topic…it is up to us to prove it to ourselves… I personally think Antichrist is anyone person who can pull an individual or group of people away from truth and faith in God and the Son.  By causing them to sin or causing them to lose faith, etc[/quote] When does Christ=God? A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name? Malachi 1:5-7 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Matthew 6:12-14

Greetings B…. The Christ is the Messiah,Savior and the Word who sits at the right hand of God….In physical form Jesus

[bodhitharta]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 18 2010,01:26)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2010,10:44) Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 17 2010,07:58) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 16 2010,01:09) Greetings Shimmer……Walid is no stranger to the media world,he is sought after for speaking engagements and news commentary on a regular basis,and paid quite well I might say….This man is a self proclaimed terrorist and a murderer who under the auspices of Jihad participated in the taking of lives…..These are not accusations from me,but statements from him…I applaud his repentance and I thank God for his mercy and the forgiveness of sins…This mans conversion to christianity is the first step in his repentance the second step should be accountability for his actions…NOT Celebrity… Greetings Shimmer….We are not to believe anything….We are to prove all things….The term anti christ is bantered around quite abit….its application is fairly simple Anti=opposition=against….Christ= God=Son of God=Savior as you see this is a broad description that can apply to any person ( many of us),place(church or mindset) or thing(idols)….Mr Shabbat may very well be an authority on this topic…it is up to us to prove it to ourselves… I personally think Antichrist is anyone person who can pull an individual or group of people away from truth and faith in God and the Son.  By causing them to sin or causing them to lose faith, etc When does Christ=God? A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name? Malachi 1:5-7 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Matthew 6:12-14[/quote] Greetings B…. The Christ is the Messiah,Savior and the Word who sits at the right hand of God….In physical form Jesus

I agree. You know we all waste too much time on semantics and fine points. In doing so often we miss the beauty of each other Loving God.

God Bless!

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2010,14:31)

Quote (PaulCohen @ Nov. 17 2010,12:34) That can’t be said of Muhammad, because he wasn’t the express image of God, come in the flesh. His works were of the devil; so are yours. Why do you say that? What is written in the Quran that is morally different than the Bible?

.

The quran has 114 chapters called suras and is the 'book of fraud'!

                          'quran book'  =114
                            'evil curse'   =114
                           'islam false'  =114    
                           'Lucifer liar'  =114
                          'allah is devil' =114
                         'book of fraud'=114                  
                     'a moongod bible'=114  
.

[shimmer]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,19:32)

. 1John 4:20 If a man(BD) say, I love God, and hateth his brother(Ed J), he is a liar: for he(BD) that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. .

Ed, do you really think bod hates you ?

Bod, do you hate Ed ?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,06:48)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,19:32) . 1John 4:20 If a man(BD) say, I love God, and hateth his brother(Ed J), he is a liar: for he(BD) that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. . Ed, do you really think bod hates you ? Bod, do you hate Ed ?

No.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 5:43-45

But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Luke 6:34-36

I have been kind to ED asking him again and again to focus on the Love of God

[shimmer]

OK.

Bod, I was THINKING.

I felt better when I believed as I used to, that the God of Islam and the God of Christianity was the same. When I didnt know all of the facts. Then when I saw the difference….the realty of it, I put a wall up between the two….Islam and Christianity. The only thing is that now – I cant 'go over that wall' – I USED to want to help Muslims, I used to believe that the ONLY difference in the two was Jesus, so I wanted to be a missionary and take that message of Jesus. But now I feel nothing.

Am I wrong or right ? I dont know.

[Ed J]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,06:48)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2010,19:32) . 1John 4:20 If a man(BD) say, I love God, and hateth his brother(Ed J), he is a liar: for he(BD) that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? 1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. . Ed, do you really think bod hates you ? Bod, do you hate Ed ?

Hi Shimmer,

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2010,14:58)

Sura #6  77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.”

BD attacks me personally when I Prove the 'quranic'(83) moongod(83),
who BD calls 'lord allah'(83) 'is satan'(83) in disguise! [6+77=83]

For slow internet speeds: start the video and pause it until it
has downloaded sufficiently in advance of the play speed; OK?

Judges 8:21 21 Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and
took away the [moongod crescents] that were on their camels' necks.

Ps.83:4,11 They (the muslims) have said, Come, and let us cut them off
from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
But YHVH says:  Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes
                            as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:

Enjoy!

[bodhitharta]

Surah 6:70 Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector or intercessor except Allah. if it offered every ransom, (or reparation), none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting Allah.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 18 2010,12:14)

Surah 6:70 Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector or intercessor except Allah. if it offered every ransom, (or reparation), none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting Allah.

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             antishrist(121) ↔ lie reject allah(121)
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[shimmer]

Thanks Ed.

Bod you never answered my question, I dont need to know what the Quran says.

[Ed J]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,17:13)

Thanks Ed. Bod you never answered my question, I dont need to know what the Quran says.

Hi Shimmer,

Did you try to see the video that way?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[shimmer]

Hi Ed. I cant watch video, really. It would take an hour untill I can watch that, and I cant do anything else in the meantime so its not worth it.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,17:13)

Thanks Ed. Bod you never answered my question, I dont need to know what the Quran says.

Which question I answered the question you asked about ED on the previous page.

Also why would you not need to know what the Quran says if I am taking that point of view?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,10:13)

OK. Bod, I was THINKING. I felt better when I believed as I used to, that the God of Islam and the God of Christianity was the same. When I didnt know all of the facts. Then when I saw the difference….the realty of it, I put a wall up between the two….Islam and Christianity. The only thing is that now – I cant 'go over that wall' – I USED to want to help Muslims, I used to believe that the ONLY difference in the two was Jesus, so I wanted to be a missionary and take that message of Jesus. But now I feel nothing. Am I wrong or right ? I dont know.

I understand your position because as far as I know you have never even accepted the things that God said and commanded in the Old Testament so someone who does not embrace what the bible says could not possible embrace the Quran.

Can you tell me about God as in relation to the Torah or the OT?

You say that God is not of War but the OT said HE is. So I can understand the wall YOU put up

[shimmer]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 19 2010,07:41)

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 18 2010,10:13) OK. Bod, I was THINKING. I felt better when I believed as I used to, that the God of Islam and the God of Christianity was the same. When I didnt know all of the facts. Then when I saw the difference….the realty of it, I put a wall up between the two….Islam and Christianity. The only thing is that now – I cant 'go over that wall' – I USED to want to help Muslims, I used to believe that the ONLY difference in the two was Jesus, so I wanted to be a missionary and take that message of Jesus. But now I feel nothing. Am I wrong or right ? I dont know. I understand your position because as far as I know you have never even accepted the things that God said and commanded in the Old Testament so someone who does not embrace what the bible says could not possible embrace the Quran. Can you tell me about God as in relation to the Torah or the OT? You say that God is not of War but the OT said HE is. So I can understand the wall YOU  put up

Thanks for answering the question Bod.

I think you still have me confused with someone else. I have no problem understanding the Old Testement. I understand how God destroys, and also how God protects His People, wherever and whoever they are.

I also understand how God still has to cleanse and remove all evil.

See ? You confuse me with someone else, really.

But I dont feel like i used to, when I wanted to be a missionary in the Middle East, remember ? The difference was I believed it was the same God. But then I changed my view. But I felt better before I changed my view, is what im saying.

ANd i dont know why.

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