Kejonn vs any Theist

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2010,19:43)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,09:21)

There is no my God and another God, there is ONLY GOD who is my God and your God and everyone elses God.

I hate to keep repeating this point to you but you can't seem to grasp what I am saying

There are no “gods” that can be compared.

Hi BD,

Kejohn can't seem to grasp what you're saying? satan's lie can repeated a thousand times,
and it will NEVER become “Truth”, because it remains a lie; you have swallowed satan's lie!

You are in denial, BD, Kejohn can clearly that you present a different god than I.
Your god is the god of confusion or as the Bible puts it: 'Babylon' meaning confusion.

Rev.18:1-2 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,
having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen,
is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit,
and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Loose the hate and my God(YHVH) will release you from your prison!

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,12:56)

Ed is totally blind by his ambition for self-importance.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22)

you constantly are being dishonest.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56)

You are deep in Sin

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22)

you hate God

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,14:07)

You have beared false witness

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,12:03)

why lie to him?

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10)

You should repent bearing False Witness…(How evil)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17)

you will never be fit to be a witness

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59)

you are living in delusion

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05)

What a hypocrite.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56)

you are truly lost

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2010,04:51)

you will be kept in the dark.

1John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love [GOD The Father=117] hath bestowed upon us (true believers),
that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm (JEHOVAH GOD)! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Do Christians believe in a different God than the Jews if so that's a serious problem because Jesus said salvation comes by way of the Jew and yet they rejected Jesus as Christ

But where did you get that name of YHVH from?

Also, are you accusing Abraham of teaching his son Ishmael to worship the devil?

You cannot say Ishmael was not still called Abraham's son after him and his mother left:

And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre;
Genesis 25:8-10

January 10, 2010 at 8:03 pm#169517

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,03:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2010,18:18)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 06 2010,06:28)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,11:21)

Obviously we know from all these scriptures that God does not tolerate certain behaviours for too long before their are consequences he sends a warner and then destruction is soon to follow this is in all the scriptures because it is the SAME ONE GOD.

I will address this because it is not Quran specific.

If the god of the Jews = god of the Christians = god of the Muslims, why do you all not have more unison?
Why do the Jews reject Jesus and the Muslims have a different view of who he was?
Why do very few Jews and Christians accept the validity of the Quran or Mohammed as a true prophet?

This cannot happen if you all claim to follow the same god.

Hi Kejohn,

Thanks for the post Kejohn!
BD is blind to this “Truth”. (2Cor.4:4)

Ed J

ED,

Do you realize you just agreed that Jesus didn't believe that YHVH is God?

Did you even read what Kejonn wrote?

Hi BD,

You seem to enjoy 'twisting' what I say with 'spin' based on your 'perception'=121; and 'antichrist'=121 at that.

'old moongod' is a different god who you continually try to make into YHVH, but only “YHVH is GOD”=117
Even Kejonn knows your moongod is not the same GOD as YHVH!
You saying there are no gods means NOTHING; drop satan!

January 10, 2010 at 9:13 pm#169525

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,07:03)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,03:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2010,18:18)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 06 2010,06:28)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,11:21)

I will address this because it is not Quran specific.

This cannot happen if you all claim to follow the same god.

Hi Kejohn,

Thanks for the post Kejohn!
BD is blind to this “Truth”. (2Cor.4:4)

Ed J

ED,

Do you realize you just agreed that Jesus didn't believe that YHVH is God?

Did you even read what Kejonn wrote?

Hi BD,

You seem to enjoy 'twisting' what I say with 'spin' based on your 'perception'=121; and 'antichrist'=121 at that.

You said

BD is blind to this “Truth”. (2Cor.4:4)

2 Corinthians 4:4 (King James Version)

4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The Jews do not believe that Jesus is The Christ or the image of God

Now, who do the Jews worship?

January 11, 2010 at 12:01 am#169546

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,08:13)

Now, who do the Jews worship?

Hi BD,

Matt.7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek,
and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

John 8:54 Jesus answered (the Jews), If I honor myself, my honor is nothing:
it is my Father(HolySpirit) that honoreth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

Have you ever heard the phrase “Judeo-Christian values”;
this is what Islam is lacking. (Gal.1:82 / Cor.11:14-15)
It is only Islam who worships a different god, the moongod.

Ed J

January 11, 2010 at 12:27 am#169550

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,11:01)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,08:13)

Now, who do the Jews worship?

Hi BD,

Matt.7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek,
and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

John 8:54 Jesus answered (the Jews), If I honor myself, my honor is nothing:
it is my Father(HolySpirit) that honoreth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

Have you ever heard the phrase “Judeo-Christian values”;
this is what Islam is lacking. (Gal.1:82 / Cor.11:14-15)
It is only Islam who worships a different god, the moongod.

Ed J

So you admit that the Jews worship YHVH but completely reject JESUS?

YET, Islam completely accepts JESUS and worships the God of the Jews.

Does Jesus and The Jews both worship the same God although they completely disagree? Yes or No

If Allah is the moongod why does the Quran say:

Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #54)

It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did Allah create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand.
( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #5)

Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.
( سورة الرعد , Ar-Rad, Chapter #13, Verse #2)

And He hath made subject to you the sun and the moon, both diligently pursuing their courses; and the night and the day hath he (also) made subject to you.
( سورة إبراهيم , Ibrahim, Chapter #14, Verse #33)

It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
( سورة الأنبياء , Al-Anbiya, Chapter #21, Verse #33)

January 11, 2010 at 4:17 am#169579

kejonn

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,18:27)

YET, Islam completely accepts JESUS and worships the God of the Jews.

You accept a Jesus that does not match the one described in the Greek New Testament.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

January 11, 2010 at 4:37 am#169580

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Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 11 2010,15:17)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,18:27)

YET, Islam completely accepts JESUS and worships the God of the Jews.

You accept a Jesus that does not match the one described in the Greek New Testament.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

Islam accepts that Jesus is The Christ. What are you talking about?

January 11, 2010 at 1:29 pm#169603

kejonn

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,22:37)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 11 2010,15:17)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,18:27)

YET, Islam completely accepts JESUS and worships the God of the Jews.

You accept a Jesus that does not match the one described in the Greek New Testament.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

Islam accepts that Jesus is The Christ. What are you talking about?

You conveniently missed the latter part of the verse

“he who denies the Father and the Son“

See? According to the Christian scriptures, you do not completely accept Jesus for who he was supposed to be.

January 11, 2010 at 5:54 pm#169631

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Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 12 2010,00:29)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,22:37)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 11 2010,15:17)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,18:27)

YET, Islam completely accepts JESUS and worships the God of the Jews.

You accept a Jesus that does not match the one described in the Greek New Testament.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

Islam accepts that Jesus is The Christ. What are you talking about?

You conveniently missed the latter part of the verse

“he who denies the Father and the Son“

See? According to the Christian scriptures, you do not completely accept Jesus for who he was supposed to be.

The term son in that culture refers to God's anointed so you are incorrect. Jesus is Christ the anointed of God.

Israel is called the firstborn son of God why? because they are his anointed servants

You probably never understood this but it is a good thing to know.

Notice this:

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Hebrews 1:4-6

2 Corinthians 6:17-18 (King James Version)

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Notice the tense and understand that the term is one of anointing.

So whosoever accepts Jesus Christ accepts that God endorsed him and he(Jesus) spoke the words of God.

January 11, 2010 at 9:25 pm#169670

http://www.christianpost.com/article….hurches

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,07:03)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,03:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2010,18:18)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 06 2010,06:28)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,11:21)

I will address this because it is not Quran specific.

This cannot happen if you all claim to follow the same god.

Hi Kejohn,

Thanks for the post Kejohn!
BD is blind to this “Truth”. (2Cor.4:4)

Ed J

ED,

Do you realize you just agreed that Jesus didn't believe that YHVH is God?

Did you even read what Kejonn wrote?

Hi BD,

You seem to enjoy 'twisting' what I say with 'spin' based on your 'perception'=121; and 'antichrist'=121 at that.

Ed,

I see you do care.

But now I need to tell you something. YOU need to see the truth, cause since yesterday iv come to definatly realize this

Is Islam the beast of Revelation? …NO!

The beast of revelation has to be the Gentile world, which is rising up against THEM!

Is Islam- being such a big religeon, mentioned in the book of Revelation?

Possible, in Rev 9, the 5th and 6th trumpets.

Do Muslims worship another God? NO way! Look, even the latest news tells you that, Christians and Muslims fighting over the use of the name Allah, This stuff has been going on for years over there.

January 12, 2010 at 12:02 am#169696

http://www.christianpost.com/article….hurches

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 12 2010,08:25)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 11 2010,07:03)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,03:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2010,18:18)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 06 2010,06:28)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,11:21)

I will address this because it is not Quran specific.

This cannot happen if you all claim to follow the same god.

Hi Kejohn,

Thanks for the post Kejohn!
BD is blind to this “Truth”. (2Cor.4:4)

Ed J

ED,

Do you realize you just agreed that Jesus didn't believe that YHVH is God?

Did you even read what Kejonn wrote?

Hi BD,

You seem to enjoy 'twisting' what I say with 'spin' based on your 'perception'=121; and 'antichrist'=121 at that.

Ed,

I see you do care.

But now I need to tell you something. YOU need to see the truth, cause since yesterday iv come to definatly realize this

Is Islam the beast of Revelation? …NO!

The beast of revelation has to be the Gentile world, which is rising up against THEM!

Is Islam- being such a big religeon, mentioned in the book of Revelation?

Possible, in Rev 9, the 5th and 6th trumpets.

Do Muslims worship another God? NO way! Look, even the latest news tells you that, Christians and Muslims fighting over the use of the name Allah, This stuff has been going on for years over there.

Very well done

Now we will see if ED can manage to admit he was wrong?

That is one of the best qualities a person can have.

January 12, 2010 at 3:33 am#169728

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Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 12 2010,00:29)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 10 2010,22:37)

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 11 2010,15:17)

You(BD) accept a Jesus that does not match the one described in the Greek New Testament.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

Islam accepts that Jesus is The Christ. What are you talking about?

You conveniently missed the latter part of the verse

“he who denies the Father and the Son“

See? According to the Christian scriptures, you do not completely accept Jesus for who he was supposed to be.

Hi Kejonn,

You are right Kejonn, BD only sees and hears what he wants to.
Bodhitharta has shut his ears to “Truth”.

Ed J

January 12, 2010 at 5:24 am#169735

kejonn

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,11:54)

The term son in that culture refers to God's anointed so you are incorrect. Jesus is Christ the anointed of God.

Israel is called the firstborn son of God why? because they are his anointed servants

You probably never understood this but it is a good thing to know.

Notice this:

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Hebrews 1:4-6

2 Corinthians 6:17-18 (King James Version)

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Notice the tense and understand that the term is one of anointing.

So whosoever accepts Jesus Christ accepts that God endorsed him and he(Jesus) spoke the words of God.

Yeah, that John 3:16 is a tricky one too:

Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten (“monogenes”) Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

And from the same book I quoted earlier:

1Jn 4:9 By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten (“monogenes”) Son into the world so that we might live through Him.

January 12, 2010 at 5:49 am#169737

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Kejonn and Ed do have a very valid point Bod!

January 12, 2010 at 5:56 am#169741

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“Son of God” is a phrase found in the Hebrew Bible, various other Jewish texts and the Christian Bible. In the holy Hebrew scriptures, according to Jewish religious tradition, “Son of God” has many possible meanings, referring to angels, or humans or even all mankind. According to most Christian denominations, it also refers to the relationship between Jesus and God, specifically as “God the Son”. (wikipedia)

So Son/sons of God could refer to angels, people….. But theres only one God the son, being higher than people -or angels,

Diogneteus to Mathetes – “as a king sends his Son, who is also king, so sent he him,- as God he sent him; as men he sent him; as savior he sent him,…”

“First of all, believe that God is One, even He who created all things and set them in order, and brought all things from non-existence into being … God created the people, and delivered them over to His Son. And the Son placed the angels in charge of them … He showed them the paths of life, giving them the law, which He received from his Father. … He Himself is Lord of the people, having received all power from his Father. … The Son of God is older than all His creation, so that He became the Father's advisor in His creation. … no one will enter into the kingdom of God, unless he receives the name of His Son.” (The Shepherd of Hermas 1:1, 6:2, 6:3, 12:2, 12:4)

Enoch -2 “And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Hosts, And his name before the Ancient of Days. 3 Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Hosts. 4 He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall, And he shall be the light of the Gentiles, And the hope of those who are troubled of heart. 5 All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before him, And will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Hosts. 6 And for this reason hath he been chosen and hidden before Him, Before the creation of the world and for evermore.

—-He was before the world, before man- so he is more than any other titles of “son/sons of God

January 12, 2010 at 8:55 am#169759

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Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 12 2010,16:24)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 11 2010,11:54)

The term son in that culture refers to God's anointed so you are incorrect. Jesus is Christ the anointed of God.

Israel is called the firstborn son of God why? because they are his anointed servants

You probably never understood this but it is a good thing to know.

Notice this:

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Hebrews 1:4-6

2 Corinthians 6:17-18 (King James Version)

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Notice the tense and understand that the term is one of anointing.

So whosoever accepts Jesus Christ accepts that God endorsed him and he(Jesus) spoke the words of God.

Yeah, that John 3:16 is a tricky one too:

Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten (“monogenes”) Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

And from the same book I quoted earlier:

1Jn 4:9 By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten (“monogenes”) Son into the world so that we might live through Him.

The use of monogenes is not so meaningful as you may think it was used with Isaac as well but the fact is Isaac was not the only begotten of Abraham and we all know that so we must apply the same rules to gain understanding, what we can say is that Jesus was uniquely conceived and anointed just as Isaac was born from a barren womb.

Adam was also called the son of God

Now consider that Adam was created without a Mother or Father and Jesus was born

So when God created the first man it was not with the command of his word “Be” because the scripture says that God formed the Man and breathed life into him whereas according to Islam Jesus was conceived by the word of God. So Jesus was “GoT” with a “Word” and it was “Be”

Just as God had said “Let there be Light”

45 Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
46 “He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.”
47 She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!

This is how he was “begotten”

January 12, 2010 at 8:58 am#169760

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 12 2010,16:49)

Kejonn and Ed do have a very valid point Bod!

From their point of understanding they do have a very good point and yet a little more understanding is needed to see with more clarity

January 12, 2010 at 10:03 am#169763

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 12 2010,16:56)

So Son/sons of God could refer to angels, people….. But theres only one God the son, being higher than people -or angels,

Diogneteus to Mathetes – “as a king sends his Son, who is also king, so sent he him,- as God he sent him; as men he sent him; as savior he sent him,…”

—-He was before the world, before man- so he is more than any other titles of “son/sons of God

It's not that I disagree with any of this but notice that the post never says what this name is. There is no mention whatsoever of the Name of Jesus although I definitely agree that it could apply.

For instance, is this referring to Jesus?:

Isaiah 49:5-7 (King James Version)

5And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.

6And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

If that is the case he was formed from the womb to be the servant of God, right?

Now the scriptures talk about wisdom

Psalm 104:24 (King James Version)

24 O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is full of thy riches.

To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy endureth for ever.
Psalm 136:4-6

Proverbs 1:20-21 (King James Version)

20Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:

21She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,

Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
Proverbs 7:3-5

Not Just wisdom but understanding and other attributes of God are of His Spirit

He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.
Jeremiah 51:14-16

Now 2 key points about Jesus

1. And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
Luke 2:39-41

2. And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
Luke 2:51-52

Now we should know from this that Jesus was not WISDOM itself and we ahould also know from the second point that if Jesus advised God from the beginning of creation he would have no need to “INCREASE” in favour with GOD

So the whole point is Jesus is The Christ and being that he was anointed with the word of God he is then called “Son” Jesus himself said

John 10:33-35 (King James Version)

33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Now Jesus was referring to:

Psalm 82:6 (King James Version)

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luke 1:31-33

Notice here David is also called the Father of Jesus and this is to show that that Jesus is also considered the Son of the Anointed before him.

I hope this helps

January 12, 2010 at 11:22 am#169769

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 12 2010,21:03)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 12 2010,16:56)

So Son/sons of God could refer to angels, people….. But theres only one God the son, being higher than people -or angels,

Diogneteus to Mathetes – “as a king sends his Son, who is also king, so sent he him,- as God he sent him; as men he sent him; as savior he sent him,…”

—-He was before the world, before man- so he is more than any other titles of “son/sons of God

It's not that I disagree with any of this but notice that the post never says what this name is. There is no mention whatsoever of the Name of Jesus although I definitely agree that it could apply.

But did I answer the question?

Allthough the name is not mentioned in those writtings I gave you, Read John 1-18

Prehaps with this in mind:

… “as a king sends his Son, who is also king, so sent he him – as God he sent him…” (Diogneteus)

….. 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.

January 12, 2010 at 12:43 pm#169771