Karmarie

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 15 2010,21:58)

Quote ED

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Rev.21:2 And I John saw the “holy city“=117, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of [heaven.net.nz],
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
and God himself=117 shall be with them, and be their [YHVH=63]. (Rev. 21:22-22:7 / Rev.16:15 / 2Peter 3:10)
The “Divine=63” “Deity=63” of “The Bible=63” is “YHVH=63”!

Rev.16:19 And the great (BD)city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell:
and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

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But Ed

Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK: If anyone ADDS to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Hi karmarie,

You can be helpful once again if you can “explain” your motivation for posting these two verses?
And please DON'T answer with a question either!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 18, 2010 at 8:13 am#170687

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,12:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2010,19:30)

AKJV John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world (i am=23) is judged.
The prince of this world is 'i am'(satan; the son of perdition).

AKJV 2Thess.2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked (i am) be revealed,

Hi Ed,

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
-Exodus 20-7

Why would this be a command? Why would God command us to be careful how we use His name? Why would He punish people who take His name in vain?

The answer is simple. It is because God is Holy, pure, perfect, and righteous. To use His name is to bring attention to who He is. To use His name means that you are acknowledging His existence. To use His name is to call upon the One has proclaimed who and what He is by His name.

Moses was at the burning bush and he asked God what His name was. God replied, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.”

God is the infinite being. He is the one who inhabits eternity, “Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.”

God is the one who inhabits eternity. He is the eternal being.
He didn’t say His name was Frank, or Bob.
His name is the transcendent, the eternal, the continuously present and holy pronouncement of “I AM”

God has always existed and He knows who He is.
He is the eternal one. He is the creator. He is the one who has always been. He is the one who was existing before the creation of the universe and before time existed. He is the great, “I AM.”

Out of God's own nature, out of His own heart, He disclosed His holy name to us. It is self given. His name is Holy and is not to be used in a vain way.

Now Ed, take a good look at what your post says above.

January 18, 2010 at 9:05 am#170690

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Quote (Stu @ Jan. 18 2010,15:05)

1) the assertions of this John (whichever one it was) contradict ‘life begets life’. You would think they could get their story straight, wouldn’t you. Maybe not.

2) I haven’t heard of the spontaneous combustion reconfiguring NOTHINGness into life hypothesis. Perhaps you could describe it for me.

3) Well the ‘it’is the explanation for why there are humans on the planet, the only explanation we have but the one that you deny. The commandment that you break in denying it is to be found in Exodus 20:16.

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

1) If God is everything, and life is part of everything, than life came from God(parts of Everything).
Needing 'only' intelligence(YHVH), this assertion would make Johns assertions true; would it not?

2) 'Big Bang' + 'evolution'=The relabeling was mine.
My relabeling sounds cooler; don't you agree?

3) You are Judging my “Witness”(Joshua 22:34) to be false?
Yet you cannot prove this (false) 'accusation'!

Still waiting to here your explanation of how the phony 'snowball'(Evolution) started?
I think the LIE goes like this: chemicals coalesced into life. This is utter “NONSENSE”!

Here is what “The Word” of my God says concerning this type of LIE: 'folly' and 'vain babblings'!

Jer.2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father;
and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth:
for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face:
but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Prob.18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Have you 'ever' heard of even “one” Scientist taking chemicals
and gasses found according to Science of early Earth condition estimations,
then manipulating them into 'any' kind of sustainable life?
Yet you assert a stone(chemicals) brought you forth,
without even a Scientists manipulations or parenting?
You my friend have swallowed a very 'big pill'!

January 18, 2010 at 9:47 am#170692

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,16:27)

karmarie,Jan. wrote:

Quote ED

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But Ed

Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;

Hi karmarie,

You can be helpful once again if you can “explain” your motivation for posting these two verses?
And please DON'T answer with a question either!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, I will try and explain again.

At the end of the book of Revelation, is a warning, a grave warning, not to ADD to or take away any WORDS from the BOOK OF REVELATION.

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
-Revelation 22:18

That could mean -Do not tamper with it. Add words here and there, add numbers, peoples names, because that is adding to the words,

Take a look at what you do with the book of revelation in one example of what you are doing- above. Its just ONE example.

“Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar” – Proverbs 30:6.

January 18, 2010 at 11:22 am#170698

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_that_I_Am

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 18 2010,19:13)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,12:18)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2010,19:30)

AKJV John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world (i am=23) is judged.
The prince of this world is 'i am'(satan; the son of perdition).

AKJV 2Thess.2:8-9 And then shall that Wicked (i am) be revealed,

Hi Ed,

1) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
-Exodus 20-7

2) Why would this be a command?

3) Why would God command us to be careful how we use His name?

4) Why would He punish people who take His name in vain?

5) The answer is simple. It is because God is Holy, pure, perfect, and righteous. To use His name is to bring attention to who He is. To use His name means that you are acknowledging His existence.

6) To use His name is to call upon the One has proclaimed who and what He is by His name.

7) Moses was at the burning bush and he asked God what His name was. God replied, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.”

8) God is the infinite being. He is the one who inhabits eternity, “Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.”

9) God is the one who inhabits eternity. He is the eternal being. He didn’t say His name was Frank, or Bob. His name is the transcendent, the eternal, the continuously present and holy pronouncement of “I AM”

10) God has always existed and He knows who He is. He is the eternal one. He is the creator. He is the one who has always been. He is the one who was existing before the creation of the universe and before time existed. He is the great, “I AM.”

11) Out of God's own nature, out of His own heart, He disclosed His holy name to us. It is self given. His name is Holy and is not to be used in a vain way.

Now Ed, take a good look at what your post says above.

Hi Karmarie,

1) I don't see YHVH(The Name of The LORD) anywhere in there, do you?

2) I have never heard of a 'this' command?

3) God's Name: יהוה transliterates into English as “YHVH”(YÄ-hä-vā)! (Psalm 45:17)
God's Name YHVH should be reverenced, because we know with certainty: “YHVH is God”=117!
“God's Name” and title “GOD” in The Hebrew (with the proper pronunciation): 117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm.
The Hebrew “Name of God” and title “God” have sometimes been translated into English as JEHOVAH GOD also!

4) Commandment #3 is akin to Commandment #1
Deut.5:7 Thou shalt have none other (i am)gods before me(YHVH).
And it is vain emptiness to put the (i am)false god of religion in (YHVH)God's face!
Prob.14:16 A wise man(or woman) feareth, and departeth from evil(i am): but the fool rageth, and is confident.

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 16 2010,17:49)

Talk to the hand Ed cause im not listening!

I no longer wish to discuss anything with you- and dont answer. Pretend I dont exist.

5) True

6) Please explain?

7) That is a 'mistranslation'; God never said that!
The standardized translation of ‘I am that I am’ (copied from the AKJV) can be proven to be wrong;
and that the N.W.T. (JW’s) version of the Bible has this phrase (אהיה אשר אהיה) translated correctly.
N.W.T version Exodus 3:14: …“I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE”…

The AKJV linguists successfully translated the phrase אהיה into “I WILL” hundreds of times
in the “Old Testament”. The AKJV translators also added words (which they italicized)
to aid in translational differences; they did this practice throughout the bible so as to NOT corrupt it!

The AKJV linguists should have translated אהיה אשר אהיה into “I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE”;
And this can be proven in two different First: ‘I am’ cannot be translated back into Hebrew.
And Secondly: “Theomatics” confirm the mistranslation!: “YHVH”=63 and “Will Be”=63!
Matt.18:16 But if he(or she) will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more,
that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
#1: “I” “witness”(Joshua 22:34)
#2: 'i am' CANNOT be translated back into Hebrew! They have NO word structure equivalent! And
#3: “Theomatics”(providing numbers verification)

Now ‘i am’ has turned into the false god of religion! (2Thess.2:4 / 1Timothy 1:15)

The Hebrew language does not have a word for coincidence; and because of this “FACT” they do not believe there is such a thing.
As a matter of fact they believe if the Hebrew language does NOT have a word for it, then it(i am) doesn’t exist.

8) Correct

9) False: That is satan's 'title'=66! …See # 7!

10) LIE!

11) God's Name was disclosed to us in God's behalf;
Reread Chapter # 8 of “HolyCityBibleCode” and learn “Truth”!

OK; I did now what?

You have something in common with WJ, he gets his 'truth' from 'Wikipedia' also!
You should “REALLY” get “Truth” from “The Bible”=63; The Word of “YHVH”=63!

Job 40:1 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said, Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty(JEHOVAH GOD) instruct him?
he that reproveth God, let him answer it. Then Job answered the LORD, and said, Behold, I am vile(vile meens 'evil');
what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
Prob.18:13 He(or She) that answereth a matter before he heareth it , it is folly and shame unto him.
Will you take Job's advice? This is now the second time in your 'folly'. I suggest you reread Chapter #8.

1Timothy 1:15 15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
Job 41:34 He(the false god of religion 'i am') beholdeth all high things:
he(i am) is a king over all the children of pride.

You chose to harden your heart instead of repenti
ng as I have suggested; did you not?
Loose the 'pride'! Repent and turn to the Living GOD(HolySpirit)!

Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Hebrews 11:34 / Eccl.9:12-16 / Isaiah 60:13-14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 18, 2010 at 12:29 pm#170700

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 18 2010,20:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,16:27)

karmarie,Jan. wrote:

Quote ED

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But Ed

Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;

Hi karmarie,

You can be helpful once again if you can “explain” your motivation for posting these two verses?
And please DON'T answer with a question either!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, I will try and explain again.

1) At the end of the book of Revelation, is a warning, a grave warning, not to ADD to or take away any WORDS from the BOOK OF REVELATION.

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
-Revelation 22:18

2) That could mean -Do not tamper with it. Add words here and there, add numbers, peoples names, because that is adding to the words,

3) Take a look at what you do with the book of revelation in one example of what you are doing- above. Its just ONE example.

4) “Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar” – Proverbs 30:6.

Hi Karmarie,

1) Why are you applying the warning 'only' to the book of Rev.,
what if the warning was really intended for the whole bible; have you considered?
When did you become a 'better' “translator” than the “King James linguists”?
If someone added words as you suggest, would that not also change the meaning?
If so, what specific meaning has been altered by numbers added?

2) Stephen Langton, R.Nathan, and Robert Stephanus all added numbers also.
Do you wish they wouldn't have? Does the warning you want to apply to me(according to you) also apply to them as well?

3) Color is added.

4) So according to this posted verse you “must” believe the warning apples
to the whole Bible, rather than just the book of Rev.; is this not true?

YHVH is GOD=117

Joshua 22:21 Then the children of “Reuben” and the children of “Gad” and the half tribe of “Manasseh” answered,
and said unto the heads of the thousands of Israel, The LORD God of gods, the LORD God of gods, he knoweth,
and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion, or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,)
That we have built us an altar to turn from following the LORD, or if to offer thereon burnt offering or meat offering,
or if to offer peace offerings thereon, let the LORD himself require it; And if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing,
saying, In time to come your children might speak unto our children, saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel?

AKJV Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
(and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (ע&#1491;[Ed]);
for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that (YHVH is GOD=117) [יהוה האלהים=117] is [GOD].
Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
(Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117]!

PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 18, 2010 at 8:10 pm#170752

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Hi Ed sorry I dont have time to respond right now (Later), but just quickly, you did add words to the verse in rev, you added 'heaven net.nz and BD (Bodhitharta) and others, and thats just one example I found, and most think the warning only applies to that specific book (revelation) the prophecy of this book, it was a book on its own untill it was added to cannon.

January 18, 2010 at 8:13 pm#170754

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And I know wikipedia is not a good choice so I will find another source- Later. k

January 18, 2010 at 9:04 pm#170761

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Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 19 2010,07:10)

You are 100% right that warning applies to the book it was written in.

However, of course ED shouldn't be doing it with any part of the bible because it's misleading.

January 18, 2010 at 9:23 pm#170762

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ED,

After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
Genesis 15:1-3

And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
Genesis 15:6-8

And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Genesis 17:1-3

And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
Genesis 28:12-14

You see my point ED, you're obsessing yourself with numbers to the point where you are straying away from the truth.

January 18, 2010 at 9:26 pm#170763

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Quote (Stu @ Jan. 18 2010,15:17)

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What do you mean never in humans? This was declared about Jesus 2000 years ago, All your saying is that if mary had a doctor and the doctor said it happened you would then say it is true. Why do you even believe the shark had a virgin birth?

I believe on the basis that there is unambiguous evidence to believe it. Unless you can provide such evidence for HUMAN VIRGIN BIRTH then you will have to be content with convincing those who have a lower standard of probity than I do. Hearsay reportings by religious zealots of the alleged sayings of an ancient Palestinian carpenter-preacher who may or may not have existed do not, for me, constitute unambiguous evidence. I have also provided you with the evidence that parthenogenesis cannot happen in humans because of genomic imprinting. It is you making the extraordinary claim without supporting it with extraordinary evidence.

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You have the atheist disease: No evidence of God is valid to you.

Maybe we could test that by you providing some. Otherwise, as kejonn said, it is that broken record with the hit islamic single by the Oft-Disproved Boys. The B-side has the top twenty classic on the Iranian charts “Reality Makes No Difference to Me

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As Far as tonsils are concerned the removal of them if necessary is good just like the appendix or the spleen or the gullbladder or one of your kidneys…etc Why is it you think that there are so many things that can be removed without killing the person or animal? This is further proof of GOD. But I ask you if we don't need 2 kidneys to live is one vestigial?

It is evidence that there are two gods, and each one provides one organ each to every human they create. Except for some organs, like the spleen, because one of the gods has agreed that he is not very good at things like spleens and so should desist from making them.

They take turns with bladders.

UNAMBIGUOUS evidence please!

Stuart

You have the atheist disease: No evidence of God is valid to you.

Also, when you try to dismiss it you insanely talk about “gods” after you just stated that you don't believe in them.

You have the atheist disease: No evidence of God is valid to you.

January 19, 2010 at 6:08 am#170843

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,08:04)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 19 2010,07:10)

Hi Ed sorry I dont have time to respond right now (Later), but just quickly, you did [ADD THINGS] to the verse in rev, you added 'heaven net.nz and BD (Bodhitharta) and others, and thats just one example I found, and most think the warning only applies to that specific book (revelation) the prophecy of this book, it was a book on its own untill it was added to cannon.

You are 100% right that warning applies to the book it was written in.

However, of course ED shouldn't be doing it with any part of the bible because it's misleading.

Hi BD,

Your overall words indicate your belief in “The Bible” is 'only' of a limited nature.
You choose to disengage from the Bible study we “were” having, now to resort to making 'snap comments'.

If you do NOT believe the book of Rev. to be true, as your prior words have indicated,
why then would you now 'pretend' to say what is in the book of Rev. is “Truth”?
Is NOT that hypocritical? Is than NOT what you accuse Stuart of being; hypocritical?
You also said you believed the bible to be corrupted; how then can you at all
use “The Bible”=63 as a “Divine”=63 source of “YHVH”=63(would that not also be hypocritical?)?

Please tell me, BD: Do you believe the book of Rev. to be 100% God inspired?; if not that what % would you give it?

January 19, 2010 at 6:09 am#170844

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,08:23)

ED,

After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.
Genesis 15:1-3

And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
Genesis 15:6-8

And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Genesis 17:1-3

You see my point ED, you're obsessing yourself with numbers to the point where you are straying away from the truth.

Hi BD,

This is NOT a single question! If you wish me to engage you, I suggest you stick to our agreement!
In case you have forgotten(I know how your memory FAILS you), here is the “Transcript”…

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 15 2010,15:22)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2010,15:01)

Hi BD,

If you are “truly” “serious” about this Bible study, than only ask me ONE question at a time; OK?

If your goal is to try to 'trick' me into helping support your faulty beliefs, then you 'are' wasting our time?

Because I will NOT give you information that can be used against me!

First question:

How are my beliefs faulty?

I have already answered your “first question”, if you want I can Re-Post it for you again!
You are now illustrating Bible verses without “THE PROPER” italics “ONCE AGAIN”; words that are NOT in the “ORIGINAL TEXTS”!
I know how your memory “FAILS” you! That is why you are adding underlining and adding emboldenments to words that should be italicized!
Did you NOT: Just accuse me of (ADDING THINGS), “exactly” what you have now just DONE in this “Post”; I ask Stuart to answer this question in my behalf?
I call on my friend Stuart, which (I KNOW) can answer that question (in my behalf) without “ANY” (preconceived religious bigotry) “BIAS”; which 'you' probably cannot!

Here are “two” (pressing) questions for you though, BD!

First: Is this NOT being 'hypocritical' on your part? And…
Secondly: Is this NOT being 'hypocrite', (a 'false truth') another faulty belief?

Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

January 19, 2010 at 6:20 am#170845

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,08:23)

ED,

You see my point ED, you're obsessing yourself with numbers to the point where you are straying away from the truth.

HI BD,

How bad is your memory?
I told you “Truth”: italics are [added words], WORDS THAT ARE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL TEXTS!
Do you consider the italics issue to be a mistake on my part; or do you purposefully choose to “straying away from the truth”?

Ed J

January 19, 2010 at 7:58 am#170848

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,23:29)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 18 2010,20:47)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,16:27)

karmarie,Jan. wrote:

Quote ED

————————————–

But Ed

Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;

Hi karmarie,

You can be helpful once again if you can “explain” your motivation for posting these two verses?
And please DON'T answer with a question either!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, I will try and explain again.

1) At the end of the book of Revelation, is a warning, a grave warning, not to ADD to or take away any WORDS from the BOOK OF REVELATION.

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
-Revelation 22:18

2) That could mean -Do not tamper with it. Add words here and there, add numbers, peoples names, because that is adding to the words,

3) Take a look at what you do with the book of revelation in one example of what you are doing- above. Its just ONE example.

4) “Add thou not unto His words, lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar” – Proverbs 30:6.

Hi Karmarie,

2) Stephen Langton, R.Nathan, and Robert Stephanus all added numbers also.
Do you wish they wouldn't have? Does the warning you want to apply to me(according to you) also apply to them as well?

3) Color is added.

4) So according to this posted verse you “must” believe the warning apples
to the whole Bible, rather than just the book of Rev.; is this not true?

YHVH is GOD=117

AKJV Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
(and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (עד;[Ed]);
for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that (YHVH is GOD=117) [יהוה האלהים=117] is [GOD].
Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
(Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117]!

PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ok Ed I will try one more time

You were twisting the words of the book of Revelation to change its original meaning to make it-…….. Bd (satan) fell from heaven (heaven net.nz) etc, can you clearly see the warning at the end of the book of Revelation, not to add or take away from the prophecy of the book?

Isnt that adding to (and taking away from the original meaning of the prophet) especially when adding an ordinary person into the words of the prophecy of the book?

Im guilty if I dont warn you to stop. But I think iv said it 3 times now, Its up to you to reflect.

January 19, 2010 at 7:59 am#170849

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2010,17:08)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,08:04)

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 19 2010,07:10)

You are 100% right that warning applies to the book it was written in.

However, of course ED shouldn't be doing it with any part of the bible because it's misleading.

Hi BD,

Your overall words indicate your belief in “The Bible” is 'only' of a limited nature.
You choose to disengage from the Bible study we “were” having, now to resort to making 'snap comments'.

Please tell me, BD: Do you believe the book of Rev. to be 100% God inspired?; if not that what % would you give it?

ED,

How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jeremiah 8:7-9

Isaiah 59:12-14 (King James Version)

12For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them;

13In transgressing and lying against the LORD, and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.

Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbours' wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 29:22-24

Is this proof enough for you, The Bible itself tells you of the lying and deception that was prevalent amongst the people of that time so you are right the Bible is protected because it doesn't hide that it has been corrupted.

besides, have you not said that there are versions of the Bible that you will not use? Who do you think corrupted those versions?

The Bible can be 100% inspired by God but that does not mean that the scribes have not interjected or moved the words from their right places.

Is this true?

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Romans 1:2-4

Jesus proves that there was corruption:

Mark 12:35-37 (King James Version)

35And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the son of David?

36For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

37David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.

January 19, 2010 at 8:03 am#170850

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2010,17:20)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 19 2010,08:23)

ED,

You see my point ED, you're obsessing yourself with numbers to the point where you are straying away from the truth.

HI BD,

Ed J

You said “I am” = the false God, so I showed you places where God said I am but now you can't or will not answer.

January 19, 2010 at 8:09 am#170851

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,22:22)

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Hi Karmarie,

1) I don't see YHVH(The Name of The LORD) anywhere in there, do you?

2) I have never heard of a 'this' command?

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 16 2010,17:49)

Talk to the hand Ed cause im not listening!

I no longer wish to discuss anything with you- and dont answer. Pretend I dont exist.

5) True

6) Please explain?

8) Correct

9) False: That is satan's 'title'=66! …See # 7!

10) LIE!

11) God's Name was disclosed to us in God's behalf;
Reread Chapter # 8 of “HolyCityBibleCode” and learn “Truth”!

OK; I did now what?

You have something in common with WJ, he gets his 'truth' from 'Wikipedia' also!
You should “REALLY” get “Truth” from “The Bible”=63; The Word of “YHVH”=63!

You chose to harden your heart instead of repenting as I have suggested; did you not?
Loose the 'pride'! Repent and turn to the Living GOD(HolySpirit)!

Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Hebrews 11:34 / Eccl.9:12-16 / Isaiah 60:13-14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed,

In reply to above, A moments (controlled) anger is better than a grudge that goes on and on. Anger then forgivness (or repentance), 'Talk to the hand' is just something I picked up from my daughter, she uses it humourously, and to say I never want to discuss anything with you can sometimes be a form of self protection. It pays to be carefull what we read and listen to, because reading and listening to the wrong thing, can lead us away from God.

Im sorry but I stopped reading your book when I got to the part where – I am – is labelled Satan. It doesnt matter what translation you are using, it is in reference to words spoken in a specific part of the bible- chapter and verse. Translations are irrelevant.

Again, im warning you otherwise im guilty of not doing so,

January 19, 2010 at 8:15 am#170852

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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2010,22:22)

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You chose to harden your heart instead of repenting as I have suggested; did you not?
Loose the 'pride'! Repent and turn to the Living GOD(HolySpirit)!

We all need to repent of things.

January 19, 2010 at 9:17 am#170853