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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2010,21:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,19:58) Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword (Rev.19:15)
shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent;
and he shall slay the dragon(Rev.12:3) that is in the sea. (Rev.17:15 / 2Thess.2:8-10)
Ed,1) Can you give me the verse that says God will punish Leviathan? Of course not, because you like to make things up.
2) How is ALLAH a different God than YHVH?
3) Stop being evil and stop making false accusations there are no gods
4) To me talking to you and STU is the same, you both hate God, STU, knows why he hates God and you hate God and don't even know you are hating God.
Hi BD,
1) The verse is already posted (Quote: Ed J @ Jan. 07 2010,19:58) can you not see it?
2)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,12:56) Ed is totally blind by his ambition for self-importance. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) you constantly are being dishonest. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) You are deep in Sin Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:22) you hate God Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10) You should repent bearing False Witness…(How evil) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17) you will never be fit to be a witness Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,12:03) why lie to him? Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) you are living in delusion Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2010,09:05) What a hypocrite. Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2010,13:56) you are truly lost Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2010,04:51) you will be kept in the dark. 3)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,19:55) Satan's=74 so what do you say about that? Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) Satan is the enemy of man 4)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,16:25) STU, ED knows your depressed and is really reaching out to you, I suggest you accept his help.
At least read his book.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,16:00) Exactly! You are in the Dark and ED is helping you to start to see some Light at the end of your depressive tunnel. Atheists love Math they believe it proves things and of course it does so you try to shun ED's very provocative proofs but really it is breaking you down if you are honest about it.
I just wish ED would except the whole theory
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 31 2009,15:33) ED, You are Stuarts greatest hope because he thinks just like you.
He is stubborn like you but you are starting to make him believe, IMO
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 30 2009,11:46) I wouldn't tell you or anybody that they don't have the Spirit of God in them Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) I really think that you are witnessing the real and it is beautiful Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 06 2010,22:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2010,16:17) Muhammad is Lord=151 Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 06 2010,04:10) Muhammad is not a “lord”
You are now mirroring the type of inconsistencies found in the 'book of fraud'! (2Cor.11:14 / Gal.1:8)
Babylon means confusion: confusion, confusion, confusion!Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59) I understand your confusion but that is why we crossed paths.
You see your problem reflected back at you from My God in Me!
Psalm 18:25-27 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
with an upright man thou will show thyself upright; With the pure thou will show thyself pure;
and with the froward thou will show thyself froward. For thou wilt save the afflicted people;
but wilt bring down (BD's prideful) high looks (Job:41:34).Your need to abandon your god(satan) and turn to the living God(HolySpirit)!
The “Divine=63” “Deity=63” of “The Bible=63” is “YHVH=63”!
Rev.21:2 And I John saw the “holy city“=117, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of [heaven.net.nz],
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
and God himself=117 shall be with them, and be their [YHVH=63]. (Rev. 21:22-22:7 / Rev.16:15 / 2Peter 3:10)Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I(Jesus Christ) have graven thee upon
the palms of my hands; thy walls (HolyCity=117) are continually before me.PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], AND the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
When will you stop calling satan “God”?It is quite evil and sinful.
How many gods are there STU?
Until you answer that question I can't give you any credibility. Maybe you have attempted to deceive me and I almost believed that you were a legitimate witness butthat is not possible if you believe in “gods” anyone who believes in “gods” is in grave error.
You say you worship the Living God are there any other gods that you don't worship and can you give me a list of other gods?
You are learning but your being a witness is premature. Karmarie is a much better and more reliable witness she doesn't believe in “gods” She only believes in GOD and she is one of the few that understands this most basic of concepts.
ED J believes in gods
Nick believes in gods
T8 believes in gods
WJ believes in gods
POK believes in gods
Banana believes in gods
The Thinker believes in gods
Stu believes that there are gods not to believe in
KJ believes that there are gods not to believe inBut Karmarie and a few others don't believe in “gods” and neither do I
Quote Stu believes that there are gods not to believe in And here are some of their names:
Apollo
Diana
Zeus
Odin
Jupiter
Yahweh
JehovahAre you claiming that the female god Diana is actually the same as the very male god allah?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,10:04) Quote Stu believes that there are gods not to believe in And here are some of their names:
Apollo
Diana
Zeus
Odin
Jupiter
Yahweh
JehovahAre you claiming that the female god Diana is actually the same as the very male god allah?
Stuart
God is not a male or a female, What would God need to be a gender for?God does not pro-create like humans do, God creates. Saying He is more for usage, we should say “HU” because God simply is.
So those names are just that names of understandings and not names of actual “gods”, there are no gods.
There is not even a claim by the believers of those understandings that they have ever encountered those understandings of God, except Jehovah/Yahweh who ED calls YHVH who is also called ELOHIM or EL or ALAHA or ALLAH or EL Shaddai…etc
How many names are there for “chair” or “house” in different languages?
Do You understand?
BD
The first Jews were mostly polytheists. Monotheism spread by assimilation of the polytheists through henotheism. Those other god names you list there were, unless I have the wrong names, the gods that were tolerated temporarily by those early monotheists as part of that assimilation process. They were lesser gods that 'existed' but were not the top god. Eventually those other gods disappeared from the culture.
That is the origins of your faith: political assimilation.
That is why, in this thread and the other one, you have no good argument for monotheism, because it is essentially a case of a dominant political group attempting to assert (without evidence of even reason) their dominance over another.
That is still your technique today, even though the rest of the world has moved on to hold higher expectations intellectually.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,10:29) S BD The first Jews were mostly polytheists. Monotheism spread by assimilation of the polytheists through henotheism. Those other god names you list there were, unless I have the wrong names, the gods that were tolerated temporarily by those early monotheists as part of that assimilation process. They were lesser gods that 'existed' but were not the top god. Eventually those other gods disappeared from the culture.
That is the origins of your faith: political assimilation.
That is why, in this thread and the other one, you have no good argument for monotheism, because it is essentially a case of a dominant political group attempting to assert (without evidence of even reason) their dominance over another.
That is still your technique today, even though the rest of the world has moved on to hold higher expectations intellectually.
Stuart
STU,You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
The Christians were outnumbered politically
And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
New Zealand's 45,000-strong Muslim community are moderate and law-abiding and have never carried out any terrorist acts.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,10:43) New Zealand's 45,000-strong Muslim community are moderate and law-abiding and have never carried out any terrorist acts.
It could also be because the extremists are well and truly outnumbered. Terrorism makes no point if there is no sympathy for it. There would be so little support here that terrorism would be counterproductive, not that I think this logic necessarily enters the islamist's mentality.Then there is this:
http://islamnz.com/IslamRecordArticles/radical.html
How long do you think it will be before one of these glazed-eyed extremists has a rush of blood to the head?
Stuart
BD
Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,14:03) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Cool…..it might help with the real problems NZ has like it being one of the highest in the world for youth suicide and alcahol consumption! And a whole lot more..Take away the bad morals and alcahol use and it could actually improve!Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 09 2010,14:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,14:03) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Cool…..it might help with the real problems NZ has like it being one of the highest in the world for youth suicide and alcahol consumption! And a whole lot more..Take away the bad morals and alcahol use and it could actually improve!
I had to check out the facts before I commented , but yes you are correct NZ is the leader in youth suicides and STU, said thet they were doing great.There is absolutuely nothing worse than Youth Suicides.
So, STU you really think your mainly secular wealthy country has no problems? How ignorant.
NZ youth need a better more religious adult population otherwise soon there won't be an adult population.
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 09 2010,14:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,14:03) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Cool…..it might help with the real problems NZ has like it being one of the highest in the world for youth suicide and alcahol consumption! And a whole lot more..Take away the bad morals and alcahol use and it could actually improve!
I had to check first but you are correct
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the world
so STU, you should help the youth and drop your
secular garbage it isn't workingQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,14:03) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Is that some kind of threat?Stuart
Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 09 2010,14:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,14:03) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Cool…..it might help with the real problems NZ has like it being one of the highest in the world for youth suicide and alcahol consumption! And a whole lot more..Take away the bad morals and alcahol use and it could actually improve!
…which is pretty consistent with what I wrote, isn't it.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,15:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,14:03) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,11:20) BD Quote You keep talking without knowledge or don't you know that the Jews have pretty much have always been outnumbered politically.
Non-sequitur. The point about henotheism has NOTHING TO DO with the percentage of Jews in the world. This is about what happened INSIDE the earliest times of Judaism in Mesopotamia, not across the whole world!Quote The Christians were outnumbered politically
Until Constantine.Quote And The Muslims were outnumbered politically
Until the murderous pedophile mohammad took his sword to the peoples of the Arabian Peninsula.Quote So, what are you talking about? The Romans went from feeding the christians to the animals to the headquarters of Christianity being in rome. will you not recognize truth?
How is it relevant to the points under discussion?Quote The Muslims went from a small minority to going against the behemoth of Christianity and Now is primarily the religion of the Middle East and the entire assembly of all the Holy Lands.
It was the religion of Spain and other places that are now modern secular democracies. So what?Quote God has shown the little over come the large time and time again. When will you see without ignorance?
OK, so you are acknowledging that I am right. Your faith is based on political assimilation, and the only theological argument you have is no argument at all. You just have the logical fallacies of assertions and red herrings.Quote Even NZ will be predominantly Muslim in 5 years guaranteed
45,000 muslims at the start of 2010, you say.Approximately 2 million claiming to be christian, and dropping, maybe to 1.5 million in 5 years.
Approximately 1 million with no religion, and climbing.
You are not very good at mathematical modeling, are you. You also probably don’t know that New Zealand’s immigration policies work against accepting economic refugee migrants. Most islamic countries are in the third world, (or in the case of Saudi Arabia belong in the dark ages!) and their inhabitants are in no position to consider emigration here.
Unless you are imagining some kind of invasion. That would make a mockery of a great deal of what you have written about islam, wouldn’t it!
Stuart
5 years Stu.Mark these words write it down somewhere.
Is that some kind of threat?Stuart
NZ is already being threatened with teen suicides. Now you always speak about suicide bombers, I don't agree with either but look at the writing on the wallQuote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,15:13) I had to check first but you are correct
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the world
so STU, you should help the youth and drop your
secular garbage it isn't working
It really is a shame you are too lazy to do your own thinking and your own research BD.Can you demonstrate a causal relationship between religion and suicide rates?
Can you show that the rates would not be higher with higher levels of religious belief?
Of course you can't.
Islam: the religion for those who can't think critically.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,15:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,15:13) I had to check first but you are correct
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the world
so STU, you should help the youth and drop your
secular garbage it isn't working
It really is a shame you are too lazy to do your own thinking and your own research BD.Can you demonstrate a causal relationship between religion and suicide rates?
Can you show that the rates would not be higher with higher levels of religious belief?
Of course you can't.
Islam: the religion for those who can't think critically.
Stuart
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the worldAtheism is killing more youth than any other thought or philosophy
Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,15:28) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,15:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,15:13) I had to check first but you are correct
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the world
so STU, you should help the youth and drop your
secular garbage it isn't working
It really is a shame you are too lazy to do your own thinking and your own research BD.Can you demonstrate a causal relationship between religion and suicide rates?
Can you show that the rates would not be higher with higher levels of religious belief?
Of course you can't.
Islam: the religion for those who can't think critically.
Stuart
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the worldAtheism is killing more youth than any other thought or philosophy
Provide evidence of causality. I have done that in the case of the young people of your religion whose last words before their self-annihilation are “god is great”. There is no question that islam is a factor in youth suicide. The young people scream their motive beforehand!How about you demonstrate (as opposed to just repeating WHAT YOU RECON) that it is a religious effect in the case of the young people living in my country.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,16:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,15:28) Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,15:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2010,15:13) I had to check first but you are correct
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the world
so STU, you should help the youth and drop your
secular garbage it isn't working
It really is a shame you are too lazy to do your own thinking and your own research BD.Can you demonstrate a causal relationship between religion and suicide rates?
Can you show that the rates would not be higher with higher levels of religious belief?
Of course you can't.
Islam: the religion for those who can't think critically.
Stuart
NZ has the highest suicide rate in the worldAtheism is killing more youth than any other thought or philosophy
Provide evidence of causality. I have done that in the case of the young people of your religion whose last words before their self-annihilation are “god is great”. There is no question that islam is a factor in youth suicide. The young people scream their motive beforehand!How about you demonstrate (as opposed to just repeating WHAT YOU RECON) that it is a religious effect in the case of the young people living in my country.
Stuart
It's not a religuous effect but the lack of one.Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2010,16:27) How about you demonstrate as opposed to just repeating WHAT YOU RECON Stuart
Hi Stuart,Couldn't the same be said with you parroting the religion secular humanism(evolution)?
I have done my own Biblical research; but of course that doesn't count; does it Stuart?
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