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  • #166700
    Ed J
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    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)
    It will be the Judeo-christian God then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    You are truly Agnostic!

    But you are starting to “see” who the REAL God is!
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    This can be stated mathematically: [117=151-34]
    GOD The Father=117
    HolySpirit=151
    And take a guess what 'title' equals 34?

    “YHVH is GOD”=117 and there is NO OTHER!

    God bless you Stuart, you sure got it right!
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #166701
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2009,05:14)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2009,13:43)
    I was a Christian long before I ever read or was even interested in Islam.  I have been many denominations as well.

    I have studied in depth with the JW's, I have studied Mormonism, Catholicism, Penecostal…. and plus many many more of the endless Christian denominations so you are already way off base concerning me.

    I have also been with The Worldwide Church of God with and without Armstrong always watched the World Tommorrow television series when I was a kid.

    I have studied more religion and denominations than you could probably imagine I have also studied Astrology, Numerology and all the other stuff you find so exciting now that I found exciting years ago.

    I have had a direct relationship with God for several years the latter years I became fully aware of the relationship and God has been like a close personal friend, He has allowed me heal the sick, uplift the oppressed and do so many, many things.

    I have “Witnessed The Real” and I have (By God's grace) helped others witness the real as well and I can help you do the same but you will have to pay attention and become absolutely Honest.


    It will be the Judeo-christian god then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Allah is the Judeo-Christian God because there is Only One God.


    I don't think Zeus will be very happy to hear you say that.

    Stuart

    #166702
    Stu
    Participant

    BD

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    (1) Troposphere
    (2) Stratosphere
    (3) the Ozonosphere
    (4) Mesosphere
    (5) Thermosphere
    (6) Ionosphere,
    (7) Exosphere,

    7 layers , how could Muhammad know this?


    You forgot the magnetosphere. That makes eight ‘layers’. Or you could say that the ionosphere and exosphere are both included within the thermosphere, and the ozonosphere is just a fancy name for the ozone-containing part of what is really the stratosphere, then actually there are only four layers.

    Can you show me the sura that have Mohammad explaining all that stuff, or once again might it be that you are reinterpreting a load of mythological waffle in terms of modern scientific understanding?

    These layers are arbitrary anyway, and are different depending on what kind of field of science they are being applied to. Even if Mohammad guessed there were layers, and an appropriate number of them, he has still told us absolutely nothing about the atmosphere.

    If we are talking about heavens, then this has nothing to do with the atmosphere anyhow: the heaven is the firmament, a solid beaten-out thing that NASA does not seem ever to have had to drill a hole in to make it into space. Are you saying there are seven of them?

    Stuart

    #166703
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2009,08:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)
    It will be the Judeo-christian God then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    You are truly Agnostic!

    But you are starting to “see” who the REAL God is!
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    This can be stated mathematically: [117=151-34]
    GOD The Father=117
    HolySpirit=151
    And take a guess what 'title' equals 34?

    “YHVH is GOD”=117 and there is NO OTHER!

    God bless you Stuart, you sure got it right!
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, do me a favour and look up sarcasm in your dictionary.

    Stuart

    #166712
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 28 2009,08:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2009,08:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)
    It will be the Judeo-christian God then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    You are truly Agnostic!

    But you are starting to “see” who the REAL God is!
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    This can be stated mathematically: [117=151-34]
    GOD The Father=117
    HolySpirit=151
    And take a guess what 'title' equals 34?

    “YHVH is GOD”=117 and there is NO OTHER!

    God bless you Stuart, you sure got it right!
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, do me a favour and look up sarcasm in your dictionary.

    Stuart


    It seems he is trying to hypnotize you :p

    #166713
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2009,08:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)
    It will be the Judeo-christian God then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    You are truly Agnostic!

    But you are starting to “see” who the REAL God is!
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    This can be stated mathematically: [117=151-34]
    GOD The Father=117
    HolySpirit=151
    And take a guess what 'title' equals 34?

    “YHVH is GOD”=117 and there is NO OTHER!

    God bless you Stuart, you sure got it right!
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Yes but ED your is a negative statement

    117+34=151 is a positive statement

    If you want to be negative I could say that 34=154-117 but I won't because I believe in all the truth not just what I would like to get across for scandalous reasons.

    You even said know that Grace = 34 so are you saying that God the Father 117= The “Holy Spirit” 151 – Grace 34

    You can not really be serious by the way you are running out of time for the debate

    #166714
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2009,10:36)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 28 2009,08:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2009,08:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)
    It will be the Judeo-christian God then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    You are truly Agnostic!

    But you are starting to “see” who the REAL God is!
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    This can be stated mathematically: [117=151-34]
    GOD The Father=117
    HolySpirit=151
    And take a guess what 'title' equals 34?

    “YHVH is GOD”=117 and there is NO OTHER!

    God bless you Stuart, you sure got it right!
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, do me a favour and look up sarcasm in your dictionary.

    Stuart


    It seems he is trying to hypnotize you :p


    I think you could be right.

    Stuart

    #166716
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 28 2009,10:43)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2009,10:36)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 28 2009,08:40)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2009,08:18)

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,19:29)
    It will be the Judeo-christian God then that overrules allah and insists that you burn as a vengeful punishment for rejecting salvation through Jesus.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    You are truly Agnostic!

    But you are starting to “see” who the REAL God is!
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    This can be stated mathematically: [117=151-34]
    GOD The Father=117
    HolySpirit=151
    And take a guess what 'title' equals 34?

    “YHVH is GOD”=117 and there is NO OTHER!

    God bless you Stuart, you sure got it right!
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, do me a favour and look up sarcasm in your dictionary.

    Stuart


    It seems he is trying to hypnotize you :p


    I think you could be right.

    Stuart


    A few more swipes at the other gods you don't believe in and ED will declare you a true believer especially if you Attack the same God that ARAB CHRISTIANS call ALLAH in their Bible.

    For a witness he sure doesn't do his homework, it's like an english person telling someone spanish that Casa doesn't mean House it's just plain ignorant.

    #166758
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    You illustrate over and over again and again how much a tight grip satan has on your mind!
    Are you lying here or does satan have you so blinded that you comprehend NOTHING I say?

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2009,10:56)

    A few more swipes at the other gods you don't believe in and ED will declare you a true believer especially if you Attack the same God that ARAB CHRISTIANS call ALLAH in their Bible.

    For a witness he sure doesn't do his homework, it's like an english person telling someone spanish that Casa doesn't mean House it's just plain ignorant.


    Here is a quote from me dated November 15, 2009…
    Page 9 Post 2 “Should a muslim be able to post in believers area?, Including quoting the koran?” in the category called “Believers Place Politics”…

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2009,13:26)

    Hi BD,

    Just because the issue is NOT how the title “God” translates into Arabic, does NOT mean that I agree with anything you say!

    You spew errors out of your mouth repeatedly; and I don’t agree with errors!
    You claim to know “GOD” but your words continue to illustrate you don't.

    I have pointed out many errors so far, but you seem to just ignore them; probably thinking
    (do to Satan’s manipulation of your mind) that I (you believing falsely) speak out of ignorance.
    It is you, once again, who does NOT understand, ‘Allah’ is NOT a name but merely ‘a title’.

    You clearly do NOT understand who God(Holy Spirit) is AT ALL!

    Ed J

    Romans 14:10-12 But why dost thou(BD) judge thy brother(ED)? or why dost thou set at nought (ED)thy brother?
    for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord,
    every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
    Matt.12:36-37 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
    For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

    Be very careful what you say BD; you will have to account for EVERY WORD!

    Ed J

    #166804
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2009,17:46)
    Hi BD,

    You illustrate over and over again and again how much a tight grip satan has on your mind!
    Are you lying here or does satan have you so blinded that you comprehend NOTHING I say?

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2009,10:56)

    A few more swipes at the other gods you don't believe in and ED will declare you a true believer especially if you Attack the same God that ARAB CHRISTIANS call ALLAH in their Bible.

    For a witness he sure doesn't do his homework, it's like an english person telling someone spanish that Casa doesn't mean House it's just plain ignorant.


    Here is a quote from me dated November 15, 2009…
    Page 9 Post 2 “Should a muslim be able to post in believers area?, Including quoting the koran?” in the category called “Believers Place Politics”…

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2009,13:26)

    Hi BD,

    Just because the issue is NOT how the title “God” translates into Arabic, does NOT mean that I agree with anything you say!

    You spew errors out of your mouth repeatedly; and I don’t agree with errors!
    You claim to know “GOD” but your words continue to illustrate you don't.

    I have pointed out many errors so far, but you seem to just ignore them; probably thinking
    (do to Satan’s manipulation of your mind) that I (you believing falsely) speak out of ignorance.
    It is you, once again, who does NOT understand, ‘Allah’ is NOT a name but merely ‘a title’.

    You clearly do NOT understand who God(Holy Spirit) is AT ALL!

    Ed J

    Romans 14:10-12 But why dost thou(BD) judge thy brother(ED)? or why dost thou set at nought (ED)thy brother?
    for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord,
    every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
    So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
    Matt.12:36-37 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
    For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

    Be very careful what you say BD; you will have to account for EVERY WORD!

    Ed J


    It seems like you got yourself in a pickle, you said that ALLAH is a title you also siad ALLAH is the title used by Arab Christians so therefore Arab Christians must be talking about the same God that you speak of and if that is the case ALLAH is the same God you speak of.

    By the way, There is no other God anyway.

    And yes the issue is translation. and speaking of translation in Arabic ALLAH doesn't simply mean “God” it means “THE GOD” as in Only.

    There are multiple names for God in Sikhism. Some of the popular names for God in Sikhism are:

    Waheguru, meaning Wonderful Teacher bringing light to remove darkness, this name is considered the greatest among Sikhs, and it is known as “Gurmantar”, the Guru's Word.
    Ek Onkar, ek meaning “one”, emphasizes the singularity of God. It is the beginning of the Sikh Mool Mantra.
    Satnam meaning True Name, some are of the opinion that this is a name for God in itself, others believe that this is an adjective used to describe the “Gurmantar”, Waheguru (See below)
    Nirankar, meaning formless One
    God according to Guru Nanak is beyond full comprehension by humans; has endless number of virtues; takes on innumerable forms; and can be called by an infinite number of names thus “Your Names are so many, and Your Forms are endless. No one can tell how many Glorious Virtues You have.”[4]

    Within Hinduism, there are number of names of God which are generally in Sanskrit, each supported by a different tradition within the religion. Brahman, Bhagavan, Ishvara, and Paramatma are among the most commonly used terms for God in the scriptures of Hinduism.

    Bhagwan (Bhagwan) means “God”.
    Ishvara (īśvara) means “Cosmic Controller” or “Lord”.
    Maheshvara (mahā-īśvara) means “Great Lord”, used as an attribute of god Shiva.
    Parameshvara (parama-īśvara) means “Supreme Lord”.
    Paramatman (parama-ātman) means “Supreme Soul”.
    Para Brahman (para-brahma), an ineffable entity, best translated as “The Absoute Truth”, Supreme Brahman, or Supreme Cosmic Spirit.
    Adi Purusha (ādi-puruṣa) means “Timeless Being”, “Primordial Lord”, “First Person”.

    The Assemblies of Yahweh is currently the only Christian group to use the name Yahweh exclusively and consistently.

    Shangdi 上帝 (Hanyu Pinyin: shàng dì) (literally King Above) is also used to refer to the Christian god in the Standard Mandarin Union Version of the Bible. Likewise, Korean Christians and Vietnamese Christians also use cognates of this name, to refer to the Biblical god.[citation needed]

    Shen 神 (lit. God, spirit, or deity) was adopted by Protestant missionaries in China to refer to the Christian god. In this context it is usually rendered with a space, ” 神”, to demonstrate reverence. (An alternate explanation for adding a space is that doing so simplified typesetting with two versions carrying 神 or 上帝 made parallel.)[citation needed]

    Zhu, Tian Zhu 主,天主 (lit. Lord or Lord in Heaven) is translated from the English word, “Lord”, which is a formal title of the Christian god in Mainland China's Christian churches.[citation needed]

    No matter how you slice it all of these are ultimately the names of One God because there is no other GOD

    #166808
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Also regarding the name ALLAH as being only a title here is something you should take a look at:

    Ancient Hebrew Word Meanings
    Name ~ shem
    By Jeff A. Benner

    ——————————————————————————–

    When we see a name such as “King David” we see the word “King” as a title and “David” as a name. In our western mind a title describes a character trait while a name is simply an identifier. In the Hebrew language there is no such distinction between names and titles. Both words, King and David, are descriptions of character traits, King is “one who reigns” while David is “one who is loved”. It is also common to identify the word “Elohiym” (God) as a title and YHWH (Yahweh, the LORD, Jehovah) as a name. What we do not realize is that both of these are character traits, YHWH meaning “the one who exists” and Elohiym is “one who has power and authority”. The Hebrew word “shem” more literally means “character”. When the Bible speaks of taking God's name to the nations, he is not talking about the name itself but his character. When the command to not take God's name in vain literally means not to represent his character in a false manner. It is similar to our expression of “having a good name” which is not about the name itself but the character of the one with that name.

    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/27_name.html

    #166813
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 27 2009,22:21)
    The mutations that have allowed some strains of staphylococcus to become resistant to antibiotics have been unquestionably beneficial to those bacteria.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart,

    I know this to be a fact, but this is NOT any credible evidence whatsoever of evolutionary processes; merely bacteria adaptation.
    This fact adds nothing to substantiate a Human development from bacteria as is the assertion, when the fact is they are harmful to us!

    Darwin's theory of Evolution MUST be believed in by faith,
    because the is NO alternative to Intelligent Design Creationism!

    There is MUCH evidence for Intelligent Design Creationism.  
    Entropy, the second law of thermodynamics, says Darwin's theory of Evolution is a farce.

    DNA sequencing is Genetic software, and software does NOT create itself!

    These FACTS cannot be denied.
    So where does this leave Darwin's false theory of evolution?
    ONLY in the faithful minds of Atheists, needing 'brain bondo' to fill in the myriad of missing pieces!

    Ed J

    #166817
    Stu
    Participant

    Ed

    Quote
    I know this to be a fact, but this is NOT any credible evidence whatsoever of evolutionary processes; merely bacteria adaptation.


    That is like saying christianity is merely believing in Jesus as your saviour and aspiring to his ideals. Bacterial adaptation is evolution in your face, and you calmly reject it. These are NEW bacteria appearing as a result of a known selection pressure, it could not be more obvious.

    You can save the health system a lot of money if you convince your fellow fundies that actually Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus is the same as the thing those stupid evolutionists claim it evolved from, and just ask for the antibiotics that work on Staphylococcus aureus. See how long you last on methicillin!

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    This fact adds nothing to substantiate a Human development from bacteria as is the assertion, when the fact is they are harmful to us!


    The fossil record and matching, independent molecular evidence from DNA says you are wrong about this. Also, many bacteria are essential to our survival, no only by their action in fertilizing soil, but in their critical roles in the human body. If there is one sort of living thing that has ‘dominion’, it is not us, it is microorganisms.

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    Darwin's theory of Evolution MUST be believed in by faith,


    It CAN be believed in by faith, but that is not necessary. I do not believe it on faith. One false move and natural selection is out, in my opinion. There is no ‘wrestling with god’, or ‘trying to fathom my purpose’ or any other such rot which is characteristic of religious faith. If natural selection hits a stumbling block that it cannot get around, then in my opinion it deserves to die as an idea.

    No one has found any such stumbling blocks in the last 150 years. In that time, physics and chemistry have been turned on their heads, but evolution by natural selection is still the central organising principle of biology. Amazing, eh?

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    because the is NO alternative to Intelligent Design Creationism!


    There is NO theory of intelligent design creationism. There is a conspiracy of getting creationism into schools for religious reasons, and there is the Wedge Document that demonstrates the true intention of ID, written by those who invented the idea. Meantime, their one concept. ‘irreducible complexity’ has been shown time and again to be no such thing: there always turns out to be ‘reducibility’ as would be expected from Darwin’s theory. Read about their dishonest agenda, written in their own words:

    http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.pdf

    Quote
    There is MUCH evidence for Intelligent Design Creationism.


    There is much bluster emerging from you with no substance to it as well.

    Quote
    Entropy, the second law of thermodynamics, says Darwin's theory of Evolution is a farce.


    Apart from the fact that you have just copied this from an out-of-date creationist site, and you don’t really understand what it means, you don’t have to take my word for it: try the fatheads at Answers in Genesis. Even they say that creationists should not use the Second Law to argue creationism, because it does not apply.

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    DNA sequencing is Genetic software, and software does NOT create itself!


    Did you read up on those sources of mutation I gave you? Indeed the software DOES create itself, for example when a gene is accidentally duplicated during copying. That is just one of the means that gives new material for mutations and natural selection to write into new adaptations. Darwin’s theory does not attempt to explain the origins of the first replicating molecules. It just shows you how their mutation, with selection, has resulted in the variety of life to be found on the planet.

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    These FACTS cannot be denied.


    These are your assertions, not FACTS!

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    So where does this leave Darwin's false theory of evolution?


    It is the ONLY scientific theory we have to explain speciation. Although it is falsifiable, no lying creationist has ever been able to prove it wrong. I believe in the scientific process, as should you, and I would be delighted if you could prove Darwin wrong because then there would be new interesting things to discover. However you have not disproved it.

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    ONLY in the faithful minds of Atheists, needing 'brain bondo' to fill in the myriad of missing pieces!


    Like I said earlier, get back to us when you have a clue about what you are writing about.

    Stuart

    #166857
    karmarie
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2009,05:52)
    Also regarding the name ALLAH as being only a title here is something you should take a look at:

    Ancient Hebrew Word Meanings
    Name ~ shem
    By Jeff A. Benner

    ——————————————————————————–

    When we see a name such as “King David” we see the word “King” as a title and “David” as a name. In our western mind a title describes a character trait while a name is simply an identifier. In the Hebrew language there is no such distinction between names and titles. Both words, King and David, are descriptions of character traits, King is “one who reigns” while David is “one who is loved”. It is also common to identify the word “Elohiym” (God) as a title and YHWH (Yahweh, the LORD, Jehovah) as a name. What we do not realize is that both of these are character traits, YHWH meaning “the one who exists” and Elohiym is “one who has power and authority”. The Hebrew word “shem” more literally means “character”. When the Bible speaks of taking God's name to the nations, he is not talking about the name itself but his character. When the command to not take God's name in vain literally means not to represent his character in a false manner. It is similar to our expression of “having a good name” which is not about the name itself but the character of the one with that name.

    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/27_name.html


    Now heres something!

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html….7m.html

    #166873
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ Dec. 29 2009,08:19)
    Ed

    Quote
    I know this to be a fact, but this is NOT any credible evidence whatsoever of evolutionary processes; merely bacteria adaptation.


    That is like saying christianity is merely believing in Jesus as your saviour and aspiring to his ideals.  Bacterial adaptation is evolution in your face, and you calmly reject it.  These are NEW bacteria appearing as a result of a known selection pressure, it could not be more obvious.

    You can save the health system a lot of money if you convince your fellow fundies that actually Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus is the same as the thing those stupid evolutionists claim it evolved from, and just ask for the antibiotics that work on Staphylococcus aureus.  See how long you last on methicillin!

    Quote
    This fact adds nothing to substantiate a Human development from bacteria as is the assertion, when the fact is they are harmful to us!


    The fossil record and matching, independent molecular evidence from DNA says you are wrong about this.  Also, many bacteria are essential to our survival, no only by their action in fertilizing soil, but in their critical roles in the human body.  If there is one sort of living thing that has ‘dominion’, it is not us, it is  microorganisms.

    Quote
    Darwin's theory of Evolution MUST be believed in by faith,


    It CAN be believed in by faith, but that is not necessary.  I do not believe it on faith.  One false move and natural selection is out, in my opinion.  There is no ‘wrestling with god’, or ‘trying to fathom my purpose’ or any other such rot which is characteristic of religious faith.  If natural selection hits a stumbling block that it cannot get around, then in my opinion it deserves to die as an idea.

    No one has found any such stumbling blocks in the last 150 years.  In that time, physics and chemistry have been turned on their heads, but evolution by natural selection is still the central organising principle of biology.  Amazing, eh?

    Quote
    because the is NO alternative to Intelligent Design Creationism!


    There is NO theory of intelligent design creationism.  There is a conspiracy of getting creationism into schools for religious reasons, and there is the Wedge Document that demonstrates the true intention of ID, written by those who invented the idea.  Meantime, their one concept. ‘irreducible complexity’ has been shown time and again to be no such thing: there always turns out to be ‘reducibility’ as would be expected from Darwin’s theory.  Read about their dishonest agenda, written in their own words:

    http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.pdf

    Quote
    There is MUCH evidence for Intelligent Design Creationism.


    There is much bluster emerging from you with no substance to it as well.

    Quote
    Entropy, the second law of thermodynamics, says Darwin's theory of Evolution is a farce.


    Apart from the fact that you have just copied this from an out-of-date creationist site, and you don’t really understand what it means, you don’t have to take my word for it: try the fatheads at Answers in Genesis.  Even they say that creationists should not use the Second Law to argue creationism, because it does not apply.  

    Quote
    DNA sequencing is Genetic software, and software does NOT create itself!


    Did you read up on those sources of mutation I gave you?  Indeed the software DOES create itself, for example when a gene is accidentally duplicated during copying. That is just one of the means that gives new material for mutations and natural selection to write into new adaptations.  Darwin’s theory does not attempt to explain the origins of the first replicating molecules.  It just shows you how their mutation, with selection, has resulted in the variety of life to be found on the planet.

    Quote
    These FACTS cannot be denied.


    These are your assertions, not FACTS!

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    So where does this leave Darwin's false theory of evolution?


    It is the ONLY scientific theory we have to explain speciation.  Although it is falsifiable, no lying creationist has ever been able to prove it wrong.  I believe in the scientific process, as should you, and I would be delighted if you could prove Darwin wrong because then there would be new interesting things to discover.  However you have not disproved it.

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    ONLY in the faithful minds of Atheists, needing 'brain bondo' to fill in the myriad of missing pieces!


    Like I said earlier, get back to us when you have a clue about what you are writing about.

    Stuart


    Sorry Stu,

    Ed is right when he says: “I know this to be a fact, but this is NOT any credible evidence whatsoever of evolutionary processes; merely bacteria adaptation.”

    Adaptation is not evolution in the sense that the theory represents it.

    #166874
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 29 2009,12:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2009,05:52)
    Also regarding the name ALLAH as being only a title here is something you should take a look at:

    Ancient Hebrew Word Meanings
    Name ~ shem
    By Jeff A. Benner

    ——————————————————————————–

    When we see a name such as “King David” we see the word “King” as a title and “David” as a name. In our western mind a title describes a character trait while a name is simply an identifier. In the Hebrew language there is no such distinction between names and titles. Both words, King and David, are descriptions of character traits, King is “one who reigns” while David is “one who is loved”. It is also common to identify the word “Elohiym” (God) as a title and YHWH (Yahweh, the LORD, Jehovah) as a name. What we do not realize is that both of these are character traits, YHWH meaning “the one who exists” and Elohiym is “one who has power and authority”. The Hebrew word “shem” more literally means “character”. When the Bible speaks of taking God's name to the nations, he is not talking about the name itself but his character. When the command to not take God's name in vain literally means not to represent his character in a false manner. It is similar to our expression of “having a good name” which is not about the name itself but the character of the one with that name.

    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/27_name.html


    Now heres something!

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html….7m.html


    Wow KM,

    You are the gift that keeps on giving. I am also a Christian Muslim and I understand what she went through and she was called around the same time I was called “2005”

    What's even better is that she lives in my same state and I will hope to be in touch with her, Thanks Sis! :)

    Your Great, Love you!

    #166891
    karmarie
    Participant

    God bless you, Christian Muslim! I believe you, and I know God can lead us to many places, and things take time too, we are allways learning.

    Love you back, and your family!

    #166898
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2009,14:24)
    Sorry Stu,

    Ed is right when he says: “I know this to be a fact, but this is NOT any credible evidence whatsoever of evolutionary processes; merely bacteria adaptation.”

    Adaptation is not evolution in the sense that the theory represents it.


    HI BD,

    I consider you a friend, but I cannot support the doctrines that you keep propagating.

    I do enjoy both you and Stuart's higher reasoning, but it takes the HolySpirit residing on the inside
    of a person for the things of the spirit to be understood; AKA “Pentecost”, God's second of three great feasts!

    1 Cor.2:11-12 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?
    even so the things of God knoweth no man but the Spirit of God. Now we (of the second great feast “Pentecost”)
    have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
    which things also we speak, not in words which man's wisdom, teacheth, but which the HolySpirit teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
    But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    God bless
    Ed J (Rev.21:2-3)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #166926
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2009,14:24)
    Sorry Stu,

    Ed is right when he says: “I know this to be a fact, but this is NOT any credible evidence whatsoever of evolutionary processes; merely bacteria adaptation.”

    Adaptation is not evolution in the sense that the theory represents it.


    Sorry BD.

    Ed is wrong about what he thinks the facts are.

    Adaptation is evolution in every sense.

    Maybe you could actually learn something about it before posting too.

    Stuart

    #166927
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2009,15:45)
    I do enjoy both you and Stuart's higher reasoning, but it takes the HolySpirit residing on the inside
    of a person for the things of the spirit to be understood; AKA “Pentecost”, God's second of three great feasts!


    So you have to be a bit deluded to appreciate properly the delusion.

    Stuart

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