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Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 24 2009,14:49) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 24 2009,05:50) Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 23 2009,20:32) Bod, Im trying to stick around but its hard,
God was showing me things, i know i was getting through to you, but then that poster jumped in and started throwing it all at you, i was so wild! Then I got slammed for using the Quran, then you were thrown out of the conversation! I was so upset, iv been sad ever since, I havent got it in me anymore to show you what i was trying to show you! it just all got lost.
I will stick with the skeptics place from now on, tho my beliefs in Jesus havent changed
You should show me whatever you are led by God to show me no matter what the consequences, who knows, what you may be trying to show me might be what I'm trying to show you I don't know why you or anyone gets slammed for using the Quran since everyone here quotes information from everywhere else. But when the Quran comes up it is suddenly forbidden (How evil) We can quote anything on the net except The Quran(Unless you be labeled some sort of sceptic)
The reason I decided to post again (By the grace of God) is I consider those who don't understand as sceptics, So I am calling them sceptics and non-believers, not myself.
Don't be sad(Peace and Blessings be upon you!)
Thankyou,I appretiate your kindness, and feel better allready
You Got it, SisQuote (Stu @ Dec. 22 2009,05:52) Hi all! It is very kind of you all to think of me like this.
I do not identify as an atheist that strongly really because, although I believe that it is pretty obvious that all gods ever conceived are human inventions, the word atheist essentially defines me in terms of others' delusions. Nevertheless it is an accurate adjective.
Now shouldn't you all be trying to decide whether your scriptures say I should be killed or not?
Stuart
Stu,A Christian Universalist and prehaps a Christian Orthodox would say No, you will not be killed, all will be saved in time!
worth looking into maybe for you,
Changing subject a bit, a friend sent me something similar to this link once i thought it was pretty cool, it shows how small our planet and us really are, earth becomes invisible after a while,
http://www.co-intelligence.org/newsletter/comparisons.html
Someone once said when we look around at the stuff happening here on earth its easy to imagine theres no God, but when you look at the heavens above, who could not believe.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2009,10:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2009,17:50) The Quran was revealed to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel over a period of about 23 years it was written down by his associates and commited to memory as well. In the Quran there is no miricles recorded except the Quran itself which is the most supreme book in literature history incapable of being written by a man.
Hi BD,What if what was delivered to Muhammad didn't come from Gabriel,
as is the assertion, have you ever considered that?2Cor.11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received,
or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven (Gabriel hmmm?), preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel
unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works. What does the 'record' say concerning Muhammad's works?
Stuart can answer that one, I know his view is unbiased.Rev.22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the “HolyCity”=117,
and from the things which are written in this book. “The Bible”=63, the word of “YHVH”=63.“GOD The Father”=117 (117=יהוה האלהים) is “The Savior”=117!
Why do you reject the ransom sacrifice of his dear son “Jesus”=74 (The “Gospel”=74),
instead choosing to believe in the systems of religion and the traditions of men?Ed J
I already asked you why did you believe in what Paul wrote Jesus told you not to believe in anyone who said he saw Jesus, but somehow you don't respond to that question.Why did you quote Rev.22:18-19 are you attempting to apply these verses to the entire bible when they only apply “to this book” meaning the book of Rev.
Hi BD,Here is what Jesus actually said…
Matt.24:23-27
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Paul saw Jesus as a flashing light, Just as Jesus said He would!
The Apostle Paul “never” said people should meet Jesus somewhere.Why do you continually 'twist' Scripture to try to make it agree with satanic writings?
Ed J
Do you think the “Holy City”=117 only applies to the book of Revelations?
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 25 2009,11:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2009,10:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2009,17:50) The Quran was revealed to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel over a period of about 23 years it was written down by his associates and commited to memory as well. In the Quran there is no miricles recorded except the Quran itself which is the most supreme book in literature history incapable of being written by a man.
Hi BD,What if what was delivered to Muhammad didn't come from Gabriel,
as is the assertion, have you ever considered that?2Cor.11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received,
or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven (Gabriel hmmm?), preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel
unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works. What does the 'record' say concerning Muhammad's works?
Stuart can answer that one, I know his view is unbiased.Rev.22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the “HolyCity”=117,
and from the things which are written in this book. “The Bible”=63, the word of “YHVH”=63.“GOD The Father”=117 (117=יהוה האלהים) is “The Savior”=117!
Why do you reject the ransom sacrifice of his dear son “Jesus”=74 (The “Gospel”=74),
instead choosing to believe in the systems of religion and the traditions of men?Ed J
I already asked you why did you believe in what Paul wrote Jesus told you not to believe in anyone who said he saw Jesus, but somehow you don't respond to that question.Why did you quote Rev.22:18-19 are you attempting to apply these verses to the entire bible when they only apply “to this book” meaning the book of Rev.
Hi BD,Here is what Jesus actually said…
Matt.24:23-27
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Paul saw Jesus as a flashing light, Just as Jesus said He would!
The Apostle Paul “never” said people should meet Jesus somewhere.Why do you continually 'twist' Scripture to try to make it agree with satanic writings?
Ed J
Do you think the “Holy City”=117 only applies to the book of Revelations?
Jesus also said he saw Satan fall from the Sky. The Question is who did Paul see and why did Jesus say that if someone claims to have seen him it would not be true.Paul also did many convincing Miracles and with the sons of sheva he seems to rival Chist himself.
Acts 19:13-15 (King James Version)
13Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
This story seems to suggest that calling on Jesus was not effective and yet they mention Paul, why is that? Other than the fact it could be a lie or either calling on the name of Jesus has no effect of its own. You tell me
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 25 2009,12:02) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 25 2009,11:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2009,10:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2009,17:50) The Quran was revealed to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel over a period of about 23 years it was written down by his associates and commited to memory as well. In the Quran there is no miricles recorded except the Quran itself which is the most supreme book in literature history incapable of being written by a man.
Hi BD,What if what was delivered to Muhammad didn't come from Gabriel,
as is the assertion, have you ever considered that?2Cor.11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received,
or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven (Gabriel hmmm?), preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel
unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works. What does the 'record' say concerning Muhammad's works?
Stuart can answer that one, I know his view is unbiased.Rev.22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the “HolyCity”=117,
and from the things which are written in this book. “The Bible”=63, the word of “YHVH”=63.“GOD The Father”=117 (117=יהוה האלהים) is “The Savior”=117!
Why do you reject the ransom sacrifice of his dear son “Jesus”=74 (The “Gospel”=74),
instead choosing to believe in the systems of religion and the traditions of men?Ed J
I already asked you why did you believe in what Paul wrote Jesus told you not to believe in anyone who said he saw Jesus, but somehow you don't respond to that question.Why did you quote Rev.22:18-19 are you attempting to apply these verses to the entire bible when they only apply “to this book” meaning the book of Rev.
Hi BD,Here is what Jesus actually said…
Matt.24:23-27
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Paul saw Jesus as a flashing light, Just as Jesus said He would!
The Apostle Paul “never” said people should meet Jesus somewhere.Why do you continually 'twist' Scripture to try to make it agree with satanic writings?
Ed J
Do you think the “Holy City”=117 only applies to the book of Revelations?
why did Jesus say that if someone claims to have seen him it would not be true.
Hi BD,I posted what Jesus actually said, did you even read the post?
Why do you twist what Jesus said?And what do those scriptures have to do with what we are talking about?
Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 25 2009,13:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 25 2009,12:02) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 25 2009,11:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:55) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2009,10:40) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2009,17:50) The Quran was revealed to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel over a period of about 23 years it was written down by his associates and commited to memory as well. In the Quran there is no miricles recorded except the Quran itself which is the most supreme book in literature history incapable of being written by a man.
Hi BD,What if what was delivered to Muhammad didn't come from Gabriel,
as is the assertion, have you ever considered that?2Cor.11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty,
so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received,
or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven (Gabriel hmmm?), preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel
unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.2Cor.11:14-15 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works. What does the 'record' say concerning Muhammad's works?
Stuart can answer that one, I know his view is unbiased.Rev.22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book,
If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the “HolyCity”=117,
and from the things which are written in this book. “The Bible”=63, the word of “YHVH”=63.“GOD The Father”=117 (117=יהוה האלהים) is “The Savior”=117!
Why do you reject the ransom sacrifice of his dear son “Jesus”=74 (The “Gospel”=74),
instead choosing to believe in the systems of religion and the traditions of men?Ed J
I already asked you why did you believe in what Paul wrote Jesus told you not to believe in anyone who said he saw Jesus, but somehow you don't respond to that question.Why did you quote Rev.22:18-19 are you attempting to apply these verses to the entire bible when they only apply “to this book” meaning the book of Rev.
Hi BD,Here is what Jesus actually said…
Matt.24:23-27
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;
insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.Paul saw Jesus as a flashing light, Just as Jesus said He would!
The Apostle Paul “never” said people should meet Jesus somewhere.Why do you continually 'twist' Scripture to try to make it agree with satanic writings?
Ed J
Do you think the “Holy City”=117 only applies to the book of Revelations?
why did Jesus say that if someone claims to have seen him it would not be true.
Hi BD,I posted what Jesus actually said, did you even read the post?
Why do you twist what Jesus said?And what do those scriptures have to do with what we are talking about?
Ed J
Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus. Jesus said, do not believe it if someone tells you that. Nothing to twist there.Jesus could have easily appeared to Peter and the rest to inform them of Paul but he didn't
Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 25 2009,19:40) Merry Christmas everyone!
And Merry Christmas to you and your family Karmarie.Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 25 2009,20:24) Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus. Jesus said, do not believe it if someone tells you that. Nothing to twist there. Jesus could have easily appeared to Peter and the rest to inform them of Paul but he didn't
Hi BD,Jesus said no such thing as you suggest?
There are a number of accounts of Jesus appearing to people since the resurrection.
Why do you say Jesus should have appeared to Peter to inform him of Paul, why are you putting importance on Peter?
Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2009,10:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 25 2009,20:24) Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus. Jesus said, do not believe it if someone tells you that. Nothing to twist there. Jesus could have easily appeared to Peter and the rest to inform them of Paul but he didn't
Hi BD,Jesus said no such thing as you suggest?
There are a number of accounts of Jesus appearing to people since the resurrection.
Why do you say Jesus should have appeared to Peter to inform him of Paul, why are you putting importance on Peter?
Ed J
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mark 13:20-22There are no accounts of Jesus appearing to anyone after he ascended to heaven and once he ascended to heaven he made it clear that the next time he would be seen it would be his second coming, so if Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus it would have been his second coming is that what you believe?
ED, I am showing you what you need to know so don't be arrogant but instead listen:
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 26 2009,12:51) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2009,10:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 25 2009,20:24) Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus. Jesus said, do not believe it if someone tells you that. Nothing to twist there. Jesus could have easily appeared to Peter and the rest to inform them of Paul but he didn't
Hi BD,Jesus said no such thing as you suggest?
There are a number of accounts of Jesus appearing to people since the resurrection.
Why do you say Jesus should have appeared to Peter to inform him of Paul, why are you putting importance on Peter?
Ed J
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mark 13:20-22There are no accounts of Jesus appearing to anyone after he ascended to heaven and once he ascended to heaven he made it clear that the next time he would be seen it would be his second coming, so if Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus it would have been his second coming is that what you believe?
ED, I am showing you what you need to know so don't be arrogant but instead listen:
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12
Hi BD,You present an interesting view; but incorrect none the less.
Jesus second coming was on the day of Pentecost!
Read the Paul thread. (Page 8 bottom)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2009,13:06) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 26 2009,12:51) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2009,10:12) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 25 2009,20:24) Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus. Jesus said, do not believe it if someone tells you that. Nothing to twist there. Jesus could have easily appeared to Peter and the rest to inform them of Paul but he didn't
Hi BD,Jesus said no such thing as you suggest?
There are a number of accounts of Jesus appearing to people since the resurrection.
Why do you say Jesus should have appeared to Peter to inform him of Paul, why are you putting importance on Peter?
Ed J
And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mark 13:20-22There are no accounts of Jesus appearing to anyone after he ascended to heaven and once he ascended to heaven he made it clear that the next time he would be seen it would be his second coming, so if Paul saw Jesus on the road to Damascus it would have been his second coming is that what you believe?
ED, I am showing you what you need to know so don't be arrogant but instead listen:
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 1:10-12
Hi BD,You present an interesting view; but incorrect none the less.
Jesus second coming was on the day of Pentecost!
Read the Paul thread. (Page 8 bottom)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I really must teach you so that you can be a viable witness so pay attention:Jesus could not have returned on the day of pentecost if he had the judgement of all men would already be complete.
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:26-28Now tell me has this occured? You sound like “the thinker” who also claims Jesus has already returned, it is a lie(or perhaps ignorance)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 26 2009,15:21) I really must teach you so that you can be a viable witness so pay attention: Jesus could not have returned on the day of pentecost if he had the judgement of all men would already be complete.
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:26-28Now tell me has this occured? You sound like “the thinker” who also claims Jesus has already returned, it is a lie(or perhaps ignorance)
Hi BD,Matt.16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Do you think these people Jesus spoke to are still living?
2,000+ years?I already told you, but you don't believe.
Do you look for Jesus without sin?
Obviously no.
That is why there is No “Pentecost”=117 for you.Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2009,15:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 26 2009,15:21) I really must teach you so that you can be a viable witness so pay attention: Jesus could not have returned on the day of pentecost if he had the judgement of all men would already be complete.
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:26-28Now tell me has this occured? You sound like “the thinker” who also claims Jesus has already returned, it is a lie(or perhaps ignorance)
Hi BD,Matt.16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Do you think these people Jesus spoke to are still living?
2,000+ years?I already told you, but you don't believe.
Do you look for Jesus without sin?
Obviously no.
That is why there is No “Pentecost”=117 for you.Ed J
If Jesus has already come then why is this said to not have occured after the day of pentecost?2 Thessalonians 2
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
ED, You should listen to me this is my life's work I am not in error by any means.
Muslims await the return of Jesus as well,
Your claim of his return puts you at odd with the scriptures above.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2009,06:26) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2009,15:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 26 2009,15:21) I really must teach you so that you can be a viable witness so pay attention: Jesus could not have returned on the day of pentecost if he had the judgement of all men would already be complete.
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:26-28Now tell me has this occured? You sound like “the thinker” who also claims Jesus has already returned, it is a lie(or perhaps ignorance)
Hi BD,Matt.16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Do you think these people Jesus spoke to are still living?
2,000+ years?I already told you, but you don't believe.
Do you look for Jesus without sin?
Obviously no.
That is why there is No “Pentecost”=117 for you.Ed J
If Jesus has already come then why is this said to not have occured after the day of pentecost?2 Thessalonians 2
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
ED, You should listen to me this is my life's work I am not in error by any means.
Muslims await the return of Jesus as well,
Your claim of his return puts you at odd with the scriptures above.
Hi BD,2Thess.2:2 is talking about Christians gathering back together,
which will not occur until the 'son of perdition' is identified.I identify who he 'really' is in the free e-book called “HolyCityBibleCode”.
The 'son of perdition' is the false god of religion!
Turn to 117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm,
for “He” is the living GOD; and there is “NO OTHER”!That is what “Feast of Booths” is all about.
God's third Great event; which is happening NOW.You still have not had the feast of “Pentecost” occur for you, yet.
The “three” main GREAT feasts of God are…
1) “The Passover”=148; made possible by
“JESUS MESSIAH”=1482) Which started “Pentecost”=117 the “Former Rain”=117 of
“GOD THE FATHER”=117; “Spirit [of] God”=117(God Spirit)3) “Feast of Booths”=151 begins “The Latter Rain”=151 of the
“HOLY SPIRIT”=151; “Feast [of] Tabernacles”=151.We are now in “The Day”=63 of YHVH”=63; both Me and the JW's know this FACT already!
“The Day of the LORD” is the “Feast of Booths”!Perhaps some day you will come to realize this as well?
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2009,06:26) ED, You should listen to me this is my life's work I am not in error by any means.
Hi BD,You haven't even made it past the FIRST of the “three” great feasts of GOD.
You must FIRST accept Jesus ransom sacrifice for your sins; AKA “The Passover”.
Until you do, you will remain 'stuck in unbelief ' or 'ERROR'; that is Bible Truth”=117!Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2009,09:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2009,06:26) ED, You should listen to me this is my life's work I am not in error by any means.
Hi BD,You haven't even made it past the FIRST of the “three” great feasts of GOD.
You must FIRST accept Jesus ransom sacrifice for your sins; AKA “The Passover”.
Until you do, you will remain 'stuck in unbelief ' or 'ERROR'; that is Bible Truth”=117!Ed J
So the scond coming has already occured although I have already shown you that it was after the dsy of pentecost that they were all wondering when his return will be?2 Thessalonians 2
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
The day has not come yet
1 Thessalonians 4
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
This has not happened yet
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like
a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a
roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and
dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done
on it will be exposedHas not happened yet
1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and
what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know
that when he appears we shall be like him, because
we shall see him as he is.Finally
Revelation 22:20 He who testifies to these things
says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come,
Lord Jesus!P.S.
2 Peter 3
1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
You need to listen, I am certainly not in error.
Jesus has not returned
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2009,09:11) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2009,06:26) ED, You should listen to me this is my life's work I am not in error by any means.
Hi BD,You haven't even made it past the FIRST of the “three” great feasts of GOD.
You must FIRST accept Jesus ransom sacrifice for your sins; AKA “The Passover”.
Until you do, you will remain 'stuck in unbelief ' or 'ERROR'; that is Bible Truth”=117!Ed J
By the way are you aware that I have set up a debate with you?
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