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Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,18:11) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28) Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2011,17:18) t8, I can certainly understand your problem with edit. However, how can you truly trust someone who has edit? People can change at any moment.
Correct.
And I do feel uncomfortable about that.
You should trust in the Lord
bodwitch one Allah the moon god ?
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,13:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,18:11) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28) Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2011,17:18) t8, I can certainly understand your problem with edit. However, how can you truly trust someone who has edit? People can change at any moment.
Correct.
And I do feel uncomfortable about that.
You should trust in the Lord
bodwitch one Allah the moon god ?
What's a moongod?Didn't God create the moon, the sun, the stars and everything else?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 15 2011,05:46) Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 14 2011,21:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2011,15:57) The way people are classified here doesn't even make sense and begs for people to be hypocrites just so they can stay in the fold. Why make it where only people whom you decide should have a view have a view? Think about it what's the difference between disagreeing wit a particular doctrine and disagreeing with all doctrine? All honesty gets tossed out in this big division, is there some big reward if someone like Stu says I confess that I am a sinner and have now turned my life over to Christ will you lift his restrictions and let him post everywhere freely?
Greetings B ….. I have failed notice any classifications…. To me this has been an open forum ….. however….I noticed that there are those who have chosen to celebrate their belief system as well as things they hold to be true …. if you view that as clasification then we are all in the same class…If you are eluding to the presense of prejudgess than I would have to say you are wrong…
How would you notice you can post anywhere you'd like and you may even have editing privilages, I can do neither of those things, that's a class distinction
Hi B ….. I find your posts both interesting and informative….It does not matter to me which category you post under… I go to them and I read them and as you can see sometimes I respond… do not get hung up on house rule it is the perogative of site webmaster to keep the forum fluid…Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,15:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,13:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,18:11) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28) Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2011,17:18) t8, I can certainly understand your problem with edit. However, how can you truly trust someone who has edit? People can change at any moment.
Correct.
And I do feel uncomfortable about that.
You should trust in the Lord
bodwitch one Allah the moon god ?
What's a moongod?Didn't God create the moon, the sun, the stars and everything else?
Hi BD, I believe Pierre means this moongod (77+6=83)…Lord allah (83) = moongod (83)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 01 2010,14:10) Sura #6 77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” …
B'shem
YHVHQuote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:42) But the more I think about it, I love the five or ten minute window idea. What do you say, t8? Could you even do it if you wanted to?
Actually the best idea I have seen is that editing stops the moment someone makes a post after yours. I think that is the fairest system of all because you are not making any changes based on future posts by others.Such features are not built into this forum and the best way to implement them is to move the forum to another system. This is technically difficult and can lead to loss of some features like PMs.
The best way forward I have seen to date was this package that did everything and more, and offered a conversion tool. However it was also very expensive and required a monthly payment.
I am still looking around and if I find a good package either free or reasonably priced, and if it offers a conversion tool, then I am happy to give it a go.
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Hi T8,1) Some posts are submitted with the wording so botched as to not even be saying what is intended.
2) As long as edits are made for clarification, I would be against any time-line limits.
3) I favor you limiting editing to one who exhibits a level of trust.
4) Say A 30 minute time-limit for newcomers.
God bless
Ed JQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,03:51) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:42) But the more I think about it, I love the five or ten minute window idea. What do you say, t8? Could you even do it if you wanted to?
Actually the best idea I have seen is that editing stops the moment someone makes a post after yours. I think that is the fairest system of all because you are not making any changes based on future posts by others.Such features are not built into this forum and the best way to implement them is to move the forum to another system. This is technically difficult and can lead to loss of some features like PMs.
The best way forward I have seen to date was this package that did everything and more, and offered a conversion tool. However it was also very expensive and required a monthly payment.
I am still looking around and if I find a good package either free or reasonably priced, and if it offers a conversion tool, then I am happy to give it a go.
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Hi T8,1) Some posts are submitted with the wording so botched as to not even be saying what is intended.
2) As long as edits are made for clarification, I would be against any time-line limits.
3) I favor you limiting editing to one who exhibits a level of trust.
4) Say A 30 minute time-limit for newcomers.
God bless
Ed J
I don't know if you have editing rights ED but how can you be trusted when you constantly mislead others hear intentionally (If unintentionally I apologize)LOOK:
You quoted Sura #6 :77 but NOW HERE IS THE CONTEXT CONCERNING ABRAHAM (whom you are also defaming)
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” But when the moon set, He said: “unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.”
78 When he saw the sun rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord; this is the greatest (of all).” But when the sun set, he said: “O my people! I am indeed free from your (guilt) of giving partners to Allah.
79 “For me, I have set my face, firmly and truly, towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah.”
80 His people disputed with him. He said: “(Come) ye to dispute with me, about Allah, when He (Himself) hath guided me? I fear not (the beings) ye associate with Allah. Unless my Lord willeth, (nothing can happen). My Lord comprehendeth in His knowledge all things. Will ye not (yourselves) be admonished?ED AFTER READING THIS, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO GO OVER WHAT IT SAYS AGAIN.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2011,15:07) ED AFTER READING THIS, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO GO OVER WHAT IT SAYS AGAIN.
I've said this to Ed many times myself.It doesn't work. He will still continue to bring up the same things you've already painstakenly explained to him or refuted.
AND……….. he's already gotten into trouble for “selective quoting techniques”.
Ed, if the partial quote you give changes the entire context (as it did in the case Asana posted), then you are being dishonest and/or deceitful. It is clear from what Asana posted that the intent was not “The moon is one of my Lords/Gods” – as you implied.
Refrain from this practice immediately. Had Asana actually reported this offense, you would have most likely been tiled for it – seeing that we've already been down this road before.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,22:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,13:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,18:11) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28) Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2011,17:18) t8, I can certainly understand your problem with edit. However, how can you truly trust someone who has edit? People can change at any moment.
Correct.
And I do feel uncomfortable about that.
You should trust in the Lord
bodwitch one Allah the moon god ?
What's a moongod?Didn't God create the moon, the sun, the stars and everything else?
bodthis one;;Sura #6
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” …
He = Muhammad the prophet of Islam
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2011,14:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,22:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,13:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,18:11) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28) Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2011,17:18) t8, I can certainly understand your problem with edit. However, how can you truly trust someone who has edit? People can change at any moment.
Correct.
And I do feel uncomfortable about that.
You should trust in the Lord
bodwitch one Allah the moon god ?
What's a moongod?Didn't God create the moon, the sun, the stars and everything else?
bodthis one;;Sura #6
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” …
He = Muhammad the prophet of Islam
Pierre
No He= AbrahamSurah 6
74 Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: “Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error.”
75 So also did We show Abraham the power and the laws of the heavens and the earth, that he might (with understanding) have certitude.
76 When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: “This is my Lord.” But when it set, He said: “I love not those that set.”
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” But when the moon set, He said: “unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.”Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 24 2011,00:47) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2011,14:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,22:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 21 2011,13:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2011,18:11) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:28) Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2011,17:18) t8, I can certainly understand your problem with edit. However, how can you truly trust someone who has edit? People can change at any moment.
Correct.
And I do feel uncomfortable about that.
You should trust in the Lord
bodwitch one Allah the moon god ?
What's a moongod?Didn't God create the moon, the sun, the stars and everything else?
bodthis one;;Sura #6
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” …
He = Muhammad the prophet of Islam
Pierre
No He= AbrahamSurah 6
74 Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: “Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error.”
75 So also did We show Abraham the power and the laws of the heavens and the earth, that he might (with understanding) have certitude.
76 When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: “This is my Lord.” But when it set, He said: “I love not those that set.”
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” But when the moon set, He said: “unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.”
bodOk ,now that you showed me in the Koran show it to me in the scriptures
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2011,21:09) bod this one;;Sura #6
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” …
He = Muhammad the prophet of Islam
Pierre[/quote]
No He= AbrahamSurah 6
74 Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: “Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error.”
75 So also did We show Abraham the power and the laws of the heavens and the earth, that he might (with understanding) have certitude.
76 When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: “This is my Lord.” But when it set, He said: “I love not those that set.”
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” But when the moon set, He said: “unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.”[/quote]
bodOk ,now that you showed me in the Koran show it to me in the scriptures
Pierre
I did make it very clear to you that in the Quran you will find details that are not in the scriptures of the Bible Just as each “BOOK” of the bible itself does not contain all the information of the other books but what I will show you is this:Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:Joshua 24:2
And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2011,10:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2011,15:07) ED AFTER READING THIS, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO GO OVER WHAT IT SAYS AGAIN.
I've said this to Ed many times myself.It doesn't work. He will still continue to bring up the same things you've already painstakenly explained to him or refuted.
AND……….. he's already gotten into trouble for “selective quoting techniques”.
Ed, if the partial quote you give changes the entire context (as it did in the case Asana posted), then you are being dishonest and/or deceitful. It is clear from what Asana posted that the intent was not “The moon is one of my Lords/Gods” – as you implied.
Refrain from this practice immediately. Had Asana actually reported this offense, you would have most likely been tiled for it – seeing that we've already been down this road before.
Hi Mike,I was under the assumption that it was something Muhammad said.
And I don't even see the name Abraham in there; do you?And besides, you repeat the same things that were discussed over and over yourself,
SO LETS NOT TRY TO TARGET ME BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I SAY; OK Mike!!B.shem
YHVHQuote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2011,10:02) Refrain from this practice immediately. Had Asana actually reported this offense, you would have most likely been tiled for it – seeing that we've already been down this road before.
To Mike,Quote we've already been down this road before
Your last witch-hunt proved to be fruitless, lets not start it again, OK Mikeboll64!
That was a complete sentence that I quoted.
If quotes must be a complete verse, or anything else
for that matter, it all needs to be specified in the forum rules!B'shem
YHVHHi Mike,
You exhibited bad behavior unbecoming of a moderator
on a number of occasions: insulting members, calling them liars,
and you have even resorted to DELETING POSTS that you do not like!
“blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.” (Matthew23:24)B'shem
YHVHQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 24 2011,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 23 2011,21:09) bod this one;;Sura #6
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” …
He = Muhammad the prophet of Islam
Pierre
No He= AbrahamSurah 6
74 Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: “Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error.”
75 So also did We show Abraham the power and the laws of the heavens and the earth, that he might (with understanding) have certitude.
76 When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: “This is my Lord.” But when it set, He said: “I love not those that set.”
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” But when the moon set, He said: “unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.”
bodOk ,now that you showed me in the Koran show it to me in the scriptures
Pierre[/quote]
I did make it very clear to you that in the Quran you will find details that are not in the scriptures of the Bible Just as each “BOOK” of the bible itself does not contain all the information of the other books but what I will show you is this:Genesis 12:1
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:Joshua 24:2
And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.[/quote]
bodbut those two stories have nothing in common ,
you are inventing your stories ,in reality you are degrading Abraham a man of God with the story of the Koran ,
it seems that people like to bring down that what they can not equal,
IT DOES NOT SAY Abraham DID WORSHIP OTHER GODS RIGHT ? YESPierre
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2011,10:02) Refrain from this practice immediately. Had Asana actually reported this offense, you would have most likely been tiled for it – seeing that we've already been down this road before.
Hi Mike,The cop said: I can't arrest you because nobody reported this crime. <– Your logic is truly FLAWED Mike!
B'shem
YHVHHi Mike, T8 has said on a number of occasions not to quote entire conversations because of space.
When I posted to Kathi long ago, I was interested in discussing the things (in her post) that I agreed with.
But she was not content with that and instead launched an all out attack against me. She then started
a thread in an attempt to slander and defame my character, and you jumped right in. Everything that
you both were accusing me of doing, you yourselves were doing as well. As the Scripture saith:“And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things,
and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?” (Romans 2:3)This story reminds me of the story of Sennacherib, King of Assyria…
Behold, I will send a blast upon him, and he shall hear a rumor, and return to his own land;
and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land. (Isaiah 37:7)
Kathi left because of trouble at home (which you stated in a post dated April 1, 2010),
and now you're attempting to start this quagmire all over again.I explained my cause to T8, and he removed the “UNDESERVED TILE” that YOU gave me,
and He even gave me the right to edit after all the dust settled, proving I was right all along!As Gene has asserted to you, do you really attempt to chase off all those who appose your views?
First Martin, then Jay, and now it seems you have your sight on me. T8, please take note of this!MikeBoll has even resorted to deleting posts that you yourself said should have NOT BEEN DELETED.
If MikeBoll64 persists in his unsavory behavior, I will petition that he be removed as a moderator of this forum!B'shem
YHVHReason for edit: Grammar.
Hi Everyone,
Isn't common sense in order here, the ability to reason things out as the purpose for public Forums. (Isaiah 1:18)
Or
Is it instead a place for Mike to believe that he has the big 'whipping-stick' to bully the members with.
Right now I see “two tiles” for both Gene and Jack,
nor why each of them supposedly got them?
They both speak respectfully to all the
members. I ask: is this Mike's doing?B'shem
YHVHQuote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2011,08:07) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,03:51) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 21 2011,09:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2011,08:42) But the more I think about it, I love the five or ten minute window idea. What do you say, t8? Could you even do it if you wanted to?
Actually the best idea I have seen is that editing stops the moment someone makes a post after yours. I think that is the fairest system of all because you are not making any changes based on future posts by others.Such features are not built into this forum and the best way to implement them is to move the forum to another system. This is technically difficult and can lead to loss of some features like PMs.
The best way forward I have seen to date was this package that did everything and more, and offered a conversion tool. However it was also very expensive and required a monthly payment.
I am still looking around and if I find a good package either free or reasonably priced, and if it offers a conversion tool, then I am happy to give it a go.
=
Hi T8,1) Some posts are submitted with the wording so botched as to not even be saying what is intended.
2) As long as edits are made for clarification, I would be against any time-line limits.
3) I favor you limiting editing to one who exhibits a level of trust.
4) Say A 30 minute time-limit for newcomers.
God bless
Ed J
I don't know if you have editing rights ED but how can you be trusted when you constantly mislead others hear intentionally (If unintentionally I apologize)LOOK:
You quoted Sura #6 :77 but NOW HERE IS THE CONTEXT CONCERNING ABRAHAM (whom you are also defaming)
77 When he saw the moon rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord.” But when the moon set, He said: “unless my Lord guide me, I shall surely be among those who go astray.”
78 When he saw the sun rising in splendour, he said: “This is my Lord; this is the greatest (of all).” But when the sun set, he said: “O my people! I am indeed free from your (guilt) of giving partners to Allah.
79 “For me, I have set my face, firmly and truly, towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah.”
80 His people disputed with him. He said: “(Come) ye to dispute with me, about Allah, when He (Himself) hath guided me? I fear not (the beings) ye associate with Allah. Unless my Lord willeth, (nothing can happen). My Lord comprehendeth in His knowledge all things. Will ye not (yourselves) be admonished?ED AFTER READING THIS, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO GO OVER WHAT IT SAYS AGAIN.
Who is allah? …the moongod!Enjoy!
Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2011,10:12) I explained my cause to T8, and he removed the “UNDESERVED TILE” that YOU gave me,
I've never given you a tile, Ed. Nor have I ever tiled Gene. The one tile I gave to Jack was removed some time later at MY request to t8. Not Jack's request, but mine. I also never gave Martian any of his five tiles, and I only gave Istari one of his five.You are talking a lot of smack about me………….UNTRUE smack. It is clear that you don't even know what you're talking about, so it needs to stop.
Asana has clarified for you that Muslims don't believe in a separate “moon god”, “star god” or “sun god”. They believe ONLY in Jehovah God, who they call “Allah”, which to my understanding simply means “God”.
So let it go, Ed. If you want to attack Muslims, do it fair and square – not by selectively quoting things out of context that will give other readers here a wrong understanding.
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