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  • #270237
    bodhitharta
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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2012,09:36)
    bod

    see how you do not answer my questions ,why ,because you are a deceiver ,for the truth of God there is always a true answer but not so with falls gods

    because their lies are obvious

    Pierre


    You keep answering my questions with questions why don't you just answer my questions with answers?

    #270244
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Sorry, but we all here reject your false prophet
    and his antichrist false god of the 'book of fraud' .

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #270248
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,17:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2012,09:36)
    bod

    see how you do not answer my questions ,why ,because you are a deceiver ,for the truth of God there is always a true answer but not so with falls gods

    because their lies are obvious

    Pierre


    You keep answering my questions with questions why don't you just answer my questions with answers?


    bod

    you do not run the show;if you want answer ,then you answer the questions ,

    that is the name of the game

    Pierre

    #270249
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,17:30)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2012,09:32)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,14:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2012,01:43)
    bod

    there are millions of falls gods out there ,but only ONE TRUE God his name is Jehovah

    if your god's name his not Jehovah then your god is a falls god,

    as simple as that ,

    Pierre


    So since the name of my God is Jehovah and He is ALLAH then I guess we believe the same thing because Abraham didn't even know God as Jehovah did he?

    Exodus 6:3And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.


    bod

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    So since the name of my God is Jehovah and He is ALLAH then I guess we believe the same thing because Abraham didn't even know God as Jehovah did he?

    you are following a backward religion,Abraham was before Moses

    but then why is it that your Prophet Muhammad did not take the name that was known in 630AD by the Hebrews (Jews)and Christians????

    and NO Jehovah is not your Allah in the Muslim world I think if you would say that in a Mosque they would beat you up and trow you out if not worse,

    you defending a pagan religion it does not matter how you present a lie it will be always a lie,

    the only way you may gain some ground is if you facing someone with little knowledge about the bible and the Koran ,

    but not now,you will not deceive me ,I know the truth of my God,

    you also know the truth about your god ,and that he is a falls god but you do not care ,you are part of the deceiver,

    Pierre


    What you said makes no sense and Arab Christians and Arab Jews do call God ALLAH, you didn't know that? If you stop being prejudice of peoples language you may have a breakthrough


    bod

    I only know Gods word, Christ , ,anything else is irrelevant ,answer my questions ,do not look for changing the focus of the conversation,

    can you show some truth ????? it is doubtful

    Pierre

    #270275
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,11:10)
    Hi BD,

    Sorry, but we all here reject your false prophet
    and his antichrist false god of the 'book of fraud' .

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    ED

    What do you say about Abraham and others like Noah who never even heard of the name YHVH?

    #270281
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,13:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,11:10)
    Hi BD,

    Sorry, but we all here reject your false prophet
    and his antichrist false god of the 'book of fraud' .

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    ED

    What do you say about Abraham and others like Noah who never even heard of the name YHVH?


    Hi BD,

    Do you believe muslims should live in the dark ages?
    Never knowing the true God(YHVH: YÄ-hä-vā)
    nor God's son Jesus Christ? (John 3:16)

    Why don't you teach them the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
    Why do you fight against God's plan for you life?

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #270296
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,14:03)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,13:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,11:10)
    Hi BD,

    Sorry, but we all here reject your false prophet
    and his antichrist false god of the 'book of fraud' .

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    ED

    What do you say about Abraham and others like Noah who never even heard of the name YHVH?


    Hi BD,

    Do you believe muslims should live in the dark ages?
    Never knowing the true God(YHVH: YÄ-hä-vā)
    nor God's son Jesus Christ? (John 3:16)

    Why don't you teach them the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
    Why do you fight against God's plan for you life?

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Jesus preached THE Gospel of The Kingdom of God, right?

    That's what the Quran teaches that Jesus taught

    #270301
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,16:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,14:03)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,13:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,11:10)
    Hi BD,

    Sorry, but we all here reject your false prophet
    and his antichrist false god of the 'book of fraud' .

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    ED

    What do you say about Abraham and others like Noah who never even heard of the name YHVH?


    Hi BD,

    Do you believe muslims should live in the dark ages?
    Never knowing the true God(YHVH: YÄ-hä-vā)
    nor God's son Jesus Christ? (John 3:16)

    Why don't you teach them the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
    Why do you fight against God's plan for you life?

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Jesus preached THE Gospel of The Kingdom of God, right?

    That's what the Quran teaches that Jesus taught


    Hi BD, the ‘book of fraud’ teaches only deception, why do you follow the workings of satan? (Gal.1:8)

                         The Kingdom of God is YHVH within us, his Children

    “Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:” (John 14:17)
    “What agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said,
    I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2Cor.6:16)

    Repent dear brother.
    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #270303
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,23:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,14:03)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 01 2012,13:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,11:10)
    Hi BD,

    Sorry, but we all here reject your false prophet
    and his antichrist false god of the 'book of fraud' .

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    ED

    What do you say about Abraham and others like Noah who never even heard of the name YHVH?


    Hi BD,

    Do you believe muslims should live in the dark ages?
    Never knowing the true God(YHVH: YÄ-hä-vā)
    nor God's son Jesus Christ? (John 3:16)

    Why don't you teach them the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
    Why do you fight against God's plan for you life?

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Jesus preached THE Gospel of The Kingdom of God, right?

    That's what the Quran teaches that Jesus taught


    Bod

    Please the Koran is not preaching he is a blind dominator,backward religion,

    Jesus preach freedom of slavery to those prisoners by Satan,means falls believes means not of Jehovah,

    Pierre

    #270305
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,16:48)
                         The Kingdom of God is YHVH within us, his Children


    The Kingdom of God is YHVH within us

    Repent dear brother.

    #270308
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2012,01:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2012,16:48)
                         The Kingdom of God is YHVH within us, his Children


    The Kingdom of God is YHVH within us

    Repent dear brother.


    bod

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    The Kingdom of God is YHVH within us

    wrong,that is not what it says ,I do know were you go and get those inventions ,

    and one more thing ;;NOT ALL HUMAN ARE GODS CHILDREN ,ONLY THOSE THAT OBEY JEHOVAH ARE HIS CHILDREN,AND THOSE WHO BELONG TO THE TRUE SHEPHERD CHRIST THE SON OF GOD,

    THIS LEAVES THE REST OF THE WORLD AND YOU IN LIMBO,

    EVERYONE AS TO CHOSE TO SERVE OR NOT TO SERVE JEHOVAH THE ONLY TRUE GOD.

    Pierre

    #270331
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,21:15)
    The Quran always insists on only attack those who are attacking you and when they cease you should cease.


    Hi Asana,

    Can you show me that teaching from the Quran itself?

    #270349
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 02 2012,01:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,21:15)
    The Quran always insists on only attack those who are attacking you and when they cease you should cease.


    Hi Asana,

    Can you show me that teaching from the Quran itself?


    fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #190)

    But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #192)

    Now just to show you how much people go out of the way to mislead people about the Quran notice above that one is verse 190 and the other is 192 so why is it ED or Pierre will only pull out 191 which says

    002:191

    And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

    Mostly they only quote the first sentence

    #270363
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    The five pillars of islam, do you believe in them?
    If you do, why don't you tell everybody
    here at H-net what they are; OK?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #270394
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 02 2012,05:45)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 02 2012,01:39)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,21:15)
    The Quran always insists on only attack those who are attacking you and when they cease you should cease.


    Hi Asana,

    Can you show me that teaching from the Quran itself?


    fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.  
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #190)

    But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.  
    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #192)

    Now just to show you how much people go out of the way to mislead people about the Quran notice above that one is verse 190 and the other is 192 so why is it ED or Pierre will only pull out 191 which says

     
     002:191

    And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

    Mostly they only quote the first sentence


    Hi BD, what do you say about this one?

    Quote
    Sura 5:51
       O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
    they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them
    for friendship is of them. This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own
    and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #270446
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 02 2012,11:48)
    Hi BD,

    The five pillars of islam, do you believe in them?
    If you do, why don't you tell everybody
    here at H-net what they are; OK?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Hi ED

    The five pillars of Islam is simply articles of faith and they vary with different branches just like Christians you can read about the subject here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Pillars_of_Islam

    The Quran itself does not mention 5 pillars or anything like that but it does say

    Muslims believe in the One, Unique, Incomparable, Merciful God- the Sole Creator, Sustainer and Cherisher of the universe; in the Angels created by Him; in the prophets through whom his revelations were brought to humankind; in the Day of Judgment, and in individual accountability for action; in God’s complete authority over destiny, be it good or bad; and in life after death.

    Muslims believe that God sent His messengers and prophets to all people. Biblical prophets mentioned in the Quran include; Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Lot, Ishmael,
    Isaac, Job, Ezekiel, Jacob, Joseph, Jonah, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, Elijah, Elisha, David, Solomon, Zechariah, John the Baptist, and Jesus; peace be upon them all.

    God’s final message to humanity was revealed to the last prophet, Muhammad(peace be upon him), through the Archangel Gabriel. It confirmed and finalized all previous revelations that were to human kind through God’s messengers.

    One becomes a Muslim by believing and proclaiming that, “There is no deity except God, and that Muhammad is the messenger of God.” By this declaration the believer announces his or her faith in all of God’s messengers, and in the scriptures revealed to them.

    http://islamuncovered.com/info/themuslimsbelief.htm

    #270447
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 02 2012,16:00)
    Hi BD, what do you say about this one?

    Quote
    Sura 5:51
       O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
    they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them
    for friendship is of them. This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own
    and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Your answer is in verse Surah 5:57-58 just a little more reading and understanding comes ED

    57 O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).

    58 When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding.

    #270450
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 03 2012,10:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 02 2012,16:00)
    Hi BD, what do you say about this one?

    Quote
    Sura 5:51
       O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
    they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them
    for friendship is of them. This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own
    and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Your answer is in verse Surah 5:57-58 just a little more reading and understanding comes ED

    57 O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).  

    58 When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding.


    bod

    your explanation only makes what it says in the,Sura 5;51 ,more difficult to ignore,because it all seems to turn around Muhammad the top and only true last prophet of God,and so this would place him above Christ the son of Jehovah his God,and in this comparison it would show Muhammad would be the prophet of Satan not of Jehovah God;this can be proven by looking at the live of both Christ and Muhammad, Christ being holy and Muhammad being a murderer like Satan,

    Now Ismael never was a prophet ,right ?? I mean in the scriptures ,,

    Pierre

    #270453
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2012,04:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 03 2012,10:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 02 2012,16:00)
    Hi BD, what do you say about this one?

    Quote
    Sura 5:51
       O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
    they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them
    for friendship is of them. This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own
    and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Your answer is in verse Surah 5:57-58 just a little more reading and understanding comes ED

    57 O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).  

    58 When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding.


    bod

    your explanation only makes what it says in the,Sura 5;51 ,more difficult to ignore,because it all seems to turn around Muhammad the top and only true last prophet of God,and so this would place him above Christ the son of Jehovah his God,and in this comparison it would show Muhammad would be the prophet of  Satan not of Jehovah God;this can be proven by looking at the live of both Christ and Muhammad, Christ being holy and Muhammad being a murderer like Satan,

    Now Ismael never was a prophet ,right ?? I mean in the scriptures ,,

    Pierre


    Although I wasn't going to respond to you anymore this God wants me to respond to because it is absolutely without merit

    Where do you see in the biblical scriptures “the Prophet Noah, The Prohet Abraham or The Prophet Jonah? The fact is the bible doesn't mention them as prophets but the Quran does.

    Your next comment about placing Muhammad on top of Christ because the Quran says don't take those who mock you as friends makes no sense whatsoever and the proof is you don't even take most Christians as friends you dislike Catholics and they are Christians and you dislike Jews if not go find a devout Jew and become friends with him while he tells you Jesus means nothing to him let's see how long that friendship lasts.

    Finally, Because Muhammad is more Like Moses do you consider moses a murderer like Satan? Moses most likely killed many more people that Muhammad

    Exodus 32:27-28

    King James Version (KJV)

    27And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

    28And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.

    Of course you will make up some silly excuse but the fact is God does condone violence and murder

    Isaiah 45:7
    I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

    You don't love Jehovah if He creates evil and murder?

    #270455
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 03 2012,12:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2012,04:46)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 03 2012,10:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 02 2012,16:00)
    Hi BD, what do you say about this one?

    Quote
    Sura 5:51
       O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:
    they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them
    for friendship is of them. This friendship makes any Muslim a enemy of their own
    and deserving of the same fate as the unbeliever. This is because God does not guide an unjust people.

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)


    Your answer is in verse Surah 5:57-58 just a little more reading and understanding comes ED

    57 O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).  

    58 When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding.


    bod

    your explanation only makes what it says in the,Sura 5;51 ,more difficult to ignore,because it all seems to turn around Muhammad the top and only true last prophet of God,and so this would place him above Christ the son of Jehovah his God,and in this comparison it would show Muhammad would be the prophet of  Satan not of Jehovah God;this can be proven by looking at the live of both Christ and Muhammad, Christ being holy and Muhammad being a murderer like Satan,

    Now Ismael never was a prophet ,right ?? I mean in the scriptures ,,

    Pierre


    Although I wasn't going to respond to you anymore this God wants me to respond to because it is absolutely without merit

    Where do you see in the biblical scriptures “the Prophet Noah, The Prohet Abraham or The Prophet Jonah?  The fact is the bible doesn't mention them as prophets but the Quran does.

    Your next comment about placing Muhammad on top of Christ because the Quran says don't take those who mock you as friends makes no sense whatsoever and the proof is you don't even take most Christians as friends you dislike Catholics and they are Christians and you dislike Jews if not go find a devout Jew and become friends with him while he tells you Jesus means nothing to him let's see how long that friendship lasts.

    Finally, Because Muhammad is more Like Moses do you consider moses a murderer like Satan? Moses most likely killed many more people that Muhammad

    Exodus 32:27-28

    King James Version (KJV)

    27And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

    28And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.

    Of course you will make up some silly excuse but the fact is God does condone violence and murder

    Isaiah 45:7
    I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

    You don't love Jehovah if He creates evil and murder?


    bod

    wen are you going to understand that Moses was send to the people of Jehovah NOT ANYONE ELSE, GOT IT ,NO MUSLIMS,NO EGYPTIANS,(EVEN THAT SOME JOINT WITH THEM)

    WHAT GOD TOLD MOSES TO DO WAS NOT MOSES WILL BUT GODS WILL TO FULFILL HIS PROMISE TO ABRAHAM ,ISAAC ,JACOBS,

    by making Muhammad a prophet of Jehovah you are MOCKING him, you are annulling HIS WORD GIVEN TO Christ AND SO TO HIS DISCIPLES ,

    SO;1CO 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void

    GAL 1:7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

    1PE 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?

    REV 14:6 And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

    any one that is not true to the gospel of Christ ,LET HIM BE CURSED ,

    Pierre

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