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- June 22, 2010 at 11:59 am#199144ProclaimerParticipant
Quote (Stu @ June 18 2010,17:58) What they should fail to see is what on earth you are on about.
Meaningless drivel. The planet 'Earth' has a capital 'e' as it's the name of a particular place. If you're referring to dirt or soil as opposed to sea and air, then earth is not capitalized.June 22, 2010 at 12:12 pm#199145ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 18 2010,17:58) How about the hydroplate “theory”?
This is meaningless drivel because I take it that 'hydroplate' is the name of a theory. If so, then what should we do with names again?This lesson was brought to you by the letter H and the number 3, (which by the way, is a finite number).
Anyway, you get the idea. I know this is immature. But I am only doing this to mimic you, in order to give you an apt demonstration as to how you might appear to others. Sometimes a person's view of them self can be quite different to how others see them.
June 22, 2010 at 12:25 pm#199146ProclaimerParticipantAccording to the grammar and spell checker in Microsoft Word, the following sentence 'Meaningless drivel' needs revising.
Okay okay, I know this is silly, but it is funny. Thanks for the laughs Stu.
Shall we get back to our pointless debate or go all out in a tit for tat war?
June 23, 2010 at 6:44 am#199353StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ June 22 2010,22:56) Trying to win an argument on a technicality rather than the subject is what people do when they are losing Stu.
Think of the Italians goal against the All Whites. No offence if you are an Italian.You obviously understand my point, and that is what matters.
Try to think of infinite numbers and finite numbers.How many finite numbers can fit into an infinite number?
Does my point stand?
I'm not trying to win anything on any technicality.It is the wrong part of speech you are using. That is what makes it meaningless. My failure to capitalise a proper noun or two does not render my sentences meaningless.
Now you are talking about numbers, you are using that part of speech correctly in your use of finite. It is still a nonsense to claim that there is such a thing as an infinite number.
So, if I can suggest a correction, do you mean to say that humans are finite beings? I think there are many senses in which that is true. We live for a finite amount of time, we occupy a finite volume and have finite mass. There is a finite amount of beer a human can drink before appearing uncouth and unable to capitalise proper nouns.
With your use of infinity, none of these quantities apply. They would be category errors. Is it that your god lives for an infinite amount of time? Does it possess infinite volume or mass? Is it able to consume an unlimited amount of liquor without feeling the need to smite someone?
As a “finite being” you are not capable of giving a meaningful definition of anything to do with infinity.
Although that is your bluff nevertheless.
Stuart
June 23, 2010 at 10:19 am#199397Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) …there is such a thing as an infinite number. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Pi is an infinite number, get your facts straight!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 23, 2010 at 10:50 am#199404ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) It is the wrong part of speech you are using. That is what makes it meaningless. My failure to capitalise a proper noun or two does not render my sentences meaningless.
The point is trying to demean it when you know full well what it was conveying. People who usually do that, are not interested in the truth, but just want to win a debate at any cost to sooth their own ego.Anyway, in that vein, I suppose it is my duty to point out to you (according to your own standards) that “…what on earth are you on about” means “…what on soil are you on about”. So I have to disagree with your statement because your failure to capitalise this proper noun certainly did render your sentences meaningless. However, I have the intelligence to figure out what you meant given the context, whereas when I did something similar, it was meaningless drivel to you, even after I said they are used to describe things. Does that mean that I am smarter than you, or is it that you applied “meaningless drivel” on a technicality, to make yourself look intelligent or win the debate?
Either option doesn't make you intelligent by the way, so if that was your goal, you failed.
June 23, 2010 at 10:55 am#199405ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) As a “finite being” you are not capable of giving a meaningful definition of anything to do with infinity. Although that is your bluff nevertheless.
Stuart
Humans can understand the concept of eternity, even though we haven't experienced it. We also understand the concept of nothing, even though we haven't seen it, although to see it would be an oxymoron.We can express it using numbers and perhaps in other ways too.
Maybe you can't, and might think I am bluffing, as you mentioned.
June 23, 2010 at 11:04 am#199406StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,21:19) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) …there is such a thing as an infinite number. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Pi is an infinite number, get your facts straight!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry Ed, I got my facts right. You are thinking of the word irrational:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
(See paragraph two).
Stuart
June 23, 2010 at 11:05 am#199407StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ June 23 2010,21:55) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) As a “finite being” you are not capable of giving a meaningful definition of anything to do with infinity. Although that is your bluff nevertheless.
Stuart
Humans can understand the concept of eternity, even though we haven't experienced it. We also understand the concept of nothing, even though we haven't seen it, although to see it would be an oxymoron.We can express it using numbers and perhaps in other ways too.
Maybe you can't, and might think I am bluffing, as you mentioned.
Yup, it all looks like a bluff composed of platitudes.Stuart
June 23, 2010 at 11:14 am#199409ProclaimerParticipantHey if I understand the concept of 'eternity' and 'nothing' as well as some things in between and you cannot understand “eternity' or 'nothing', and maybe some stuff in the middle, then that just shows your limited understanding. I even understand why it could appear as a bluff from where you are standing. But please note that I am not bragging here. I think that many other people can understand this too. But it is okay to not understand something. Your talents might lie elsewhere.
June 23, 2010 at 11:45 am#199414Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 23 2010,22:04) Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,21:19) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) …there is such a thing as an infinite number. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Pi is an infinite number, get your facts straight!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry Ed, I got my facts right. You are thinking of the word irrational:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
(See paragraph two).
Stuart
Hi Stuart,If Pi is unending, than it is an infinite number;
your thinking is irrational.June 24, 2010 at 5:22 am#199584StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,22:45) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,22:04) Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,21:19) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) …there is such a thing as an infinite number. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Pi is an infinite number, get your facts straight!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry Ed, I got my facts right. You are thinking of the word irrational:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
(See paragraph two).
Stuart
Hi Stuart,If Pi is unending, than it is an infinite number;
your thinking is irrational.
Show me a reference for such a thing as an “infinite number”.Stuart
June 24, 2010 at 5:24 am#199587StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ June 23 2010,22:14) Hey if I understand the concept of 'eternity' and 'nothing' as well as some things in between and you cannot understand “eternity' or 'nothing', and maybe some stuff in the middle, then that just shows your limited understanding. I even understand why it could appear as a bluff from where you are standing. But please note that I am not bragging here. I think that many other people can understand this too. But it is okay to not understand something. Your talents might lie elsewhere.
It is not just a bluff in appearance.Stuart
June 24, 2010 at 8:05 am#199626Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 24 2010,16:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,22:45) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,22:04) Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,21:19) Quote (Stu @ June 23 2010,17:44) …there is such a thing as an infinite number. Stuart
Hi Stuart,Pi is an infinite number, get your facts straight!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry Ed, I got my facts right. You are thinking of the word irrational:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
(See paragraph two).
Stuart
Hi Stuart,If Pi is unending, than it is an infinite number;
your thinking is irrational.
Show me a reference for such a thing as an “infinite number”.Stuart
Hi Stuart,Your only contention is the meaning of infinite.
The “Fact” is: the number Pi is unending!infinite…
1) extending indefinitely; Pi certainly qualifies here.
2) immeasurably or inconceivably great or extensive; Pi fits here too.
3) Subject to no limitation; Pi still fits loosely here too.
4) extending beyond any preassigned finite value; certainly Pi fits here.So it seems Pi is an infinite number!
June 24, 2010 at 11:50 am#199655StuParticipantEd
Show me a reference for such a thing as an “infinite number”, which is what you called it.
Stuart
June 24, 2010 at 12:03 pm#199659Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ June 24 2010,22:50) Ed Show me a reference for such a thing as an “infinite number”, which is what you called it.
Stuart
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799079396371496177431211940202129757June 24, 2010 at 12:04 pm#199660Ed JParticipantand it keeps going and going with no end
June 24, 2010 at 12:10 pm#199661TimothyVIParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 24 2010,23:04) and it keeps going and going with no end
Stu said to show him a reference to an infinite number,
not the actual number.You just used up most of Heaven's web space.
Tim
June 24, 2010 at 12:20 pm#199662Ed JParticipantQuote (TimothyVI @ June 24 2010,23:10) Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2010,23:04) and it keeps going and going with no end
Stu said to show him a reference to an infinite number,
not the actual number.You just used up most of Heaven's web space.
Tim
Hi TimothyIV,Sorry; you mean this is what Stuart really wanted…
http://www.geom.uiuc.edu/~huberty/math5337/groupe/digits.htmlJune 25, 2010 at 7:02 am#199819StuParticipantEd
According to your reference, Pi goes to 100,000 decimal places. I know it is IRRATIONAL, and therefore it is not possible to express it as a RATIO but there is no such thing as an “infinite number” in mathematics.
Stuart
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