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Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,14:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,13:11) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,16:02) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:24) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,14:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56) Now, we will get serious. Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.
So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.
Hi BD:If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.
Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins. They were obeying God but they made mistakes. The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.
But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days. In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.
Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.
Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law. If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.
Hi BD:I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So gird your loins and say:That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.
You won't do it, will you?
Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?
Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?
Hi BD:What does the scripture that I Quoted state?
It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter. It is what God says through His Word that is the authority. I believe the Word of God is true.
He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?
Hi BD:What does the Word of God say? How do you read?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Why are you afraid to answer?Please answer first and then I will gladly state my position but this is important, Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Christ going to Hell? Yes or No?
Hi BD:No, I am not afraid to answer. It is not my position to say who is going to hell and who is not.
The Word of God is the authority, and it states that anyone who does not believe that God has given His Only begotten Son is condemned because he has not believed.
That is the only answer you are going to get from me.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Your answer is that Jews who do not believe that Jesus is their Christ is going to hell, yet you hesitate to preach what you believe.If you cannot even state your definite belief in who will go to hell then how can you preach salvation to anyone?
Who will go to hell? Will it be just people you don't like?
Muslims say believe that Jesus is the Christ
Jews believe that Jesus is a false prophetyet you seem eager to speak against muslims and hesitant to speak against Jews. You Hypocrite that is why the Kingdom does not belong to those like you.
Hi BD:I am praying for you.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I appreciate all prayers and in return I will pray for you that you remove your bias.Is it your belief that the rejection of Jesus is rejecting God with the result of not having salvation? Yes or No?
Hi Bd:This what Jesus said:
Quote Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You just keep dancing around making an actual statement
Are Jews going to hell that reject Jesus? Yes or No?
Please don't respond without answering the question.
Hi BD:I believe what the scriptures state, and so, then you should have the answer to your question.
Love in Christ,
Marty
How can you preach without taking a position?Are Jews going to hell, Marty?
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,15:07) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,14:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,13:11) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,16:02) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:24) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,14:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56) Now, we will get serious. Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.
So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.
Hi BD:If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.
Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins. They were obeying God but they made mistakes. The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.
But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days. In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.
Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.
Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law. If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.
Hi BD:I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So gird your loins and say:That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.
You won't do it, will you?
Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?
Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?
Hi BD:What does the scripture that I Quoted state?
It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter. It is what God says through His Word that is the authority. I believe the Word of God is true.
He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So does this mean that Jews who do not a
ccept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?
Hi BD:What does the Word of God say? How do you read?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Why are you afraid to answer?Please answer first and then I will gladly state my position but this is important, Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Christ going to Hell? Yes or No?
Hi BD:No, I am not afraid to answer. It is not my position to say who is going to hell and who is not.
The Word of God is the authority, and it states that anyone who does not believe that God has given His Only begotten Son is condemned because he has not believed.
That is the only answer you are going to get from me.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Your answer is that Jews who do not believe that Jesus is their Christ is going to hell, yet you hesitate to preach what you believe.If you cannot even state your definite belief in who will go to hell then how can you preach salvation to anyone?
Who will go to hell? Will it be just people you don't like?
Muslims say believe that Jesus is the Christ
Jews believe that Jesus is a false prophetyet you seem eager to speak against muslims and hesitant to speak against Jews. You Hypocrite that is why the Kingdom does not belong to those like you.
Hi BD:I am praying for you.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I appreciate all prayers and in return I will pray for you that you remove your bias.Is it your belief that the rejection of Jesus is rejecting God with the result of not having salvation? Yes or No?
Hi Bd:This what Jesus said:
Quote Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You just keep dancing around making an actual statement
Are Jews going to hell that reject Jesus? Yes or No?
Please don't respond without answering the question.
Hi BD:I believe what the scriptures state, and so, then you should have the answer to your question.
Love in Christ,
Marty
How can you preach without taking a position?Are Jews going to hell, Marty?
Hi BD:I am not preaching my Word but God's Word, and that is my postion.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ June 26 2009,15:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,15:07) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,14:55) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,14:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,13:11) Quote (942767 @ June 26 2009,11:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,16:02) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,15:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:24) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,14:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,14:13) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,13:10) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,12:55) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,12:50) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,11:57) Quote (942767 @ June 25 2009,11:46) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2009,10:56) Now, we will get serious. Clearly state your position. I keep hearing everyone here say that without Jesus hell is inevitable but when I ask about Jews everyone dances about.
So either confess that all Jews are going to hell or admit that you have no idea who is going to hell but the fact is there is not one orthodox Jew who considers Jesus anymore than a false prophet and some don't even give him that much credit.
Hi BD:If anyone goes to hell, it is because they chose not to believe the gospel.
Jews who were striving to obey God under the Law of Moses until Jesus until the ministry of Jesus will be saved because the blood of Jesus washes away their sins. They were obeying God but they made mistakes. The blood of animals was symbolic of the ulitmate sacrifice that would wash away their sins.
But since the ministry of Jesus, the gospel is preached to every creature.
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.There are many Jews who have believed that Jesus is the Messiah in these last days. In fact, one of the reasons that they exist as a nation since 1948, is that the gospel will be preached to them as a nation as it was preached to them intially in the ministry of Jesus and the Apostle Peter.
Again, God is good, and has made a way for us to be reconciled to Him out of His love for us.
Those Jews who are striving to obey God under the Law of Moses in this day who do not accept the gospel will be judged by the Law. If they obey the Law without violating it in any way than they won't need the blood of Jesus to wash away thier sins because they won't have any.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So, Please make the statement that you believe that Jews who don't believe in Jesus as Christ or son of God will in fact burn in Hell.
Hi BD:I believe the Word of God, and this is what the Word of God states:
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Love in Christ,
Marty
So gird your loins and say:That you believe that Jews are going to hell because they don't believe that Jesus is the Christ or the son of God.
You won't do it, will you?
Your theology is at risk, what is the truth?
Will the Jews be saved regardless of what they think about Jesus?
Hi BD:What does the scripture that I Quoted state?
It isn't my theology, and it does not matter what my opinion would be about this matter. It is what God says through His Word that is the authority. I believe the Word of God is true.
He has said that whoever has not believed is condemned already because he has not believed.Love in Christ,
Marty
So does this mean that Jews who do not accept Jesus as Christ are going to hell? Yes or No?
Hi BD:What does the Word of God say? How do you read?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Why are you afraid to answer?Please answer first and then I will gladly state my position but this is important, Are the Jews who deny Jesus as Christ going to Hell? Yes or No?
Hi BD:No, I am not afraid to answer. It is not my position to say who is going to hell and who is not.
The Word of God is the authority, and it states that anyone who does not believe that God has given His Only begotten Son is condemned because he has not believed.
That is the only answer you are going to get from me.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Your answer is that Jews who do not believe that Jesus is their Christ is going to hell, yet you hesitate to preach what you believe.If you cannot even state your definite belief in who will go to hell then how can you preach salvation to anyone?
Who will go to hell? Will it be just people you don't like?
Muslims say believe that Jesus is the Christ
Jews believe that Jesus is a false prophetyet you seem eager to speak against muslims and hesitant to speak against Jews. You Hypocrite that is why the Kingdom does not belong to those like you.
Hi BD:I am praying for you.
Love in Christ,
Marty
I appreciate all prayers and in return I will pray for you that you remove your bias.Is it your belief that the rejection of Jesus is rejecting God with the result of not having salvation? Yes or No?
Hi Bd:This what Jesus said:
Quote Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,You just keep dancing around making an actual statement
Are Jews going to hell that reject Jesus? Yes or No?
Please don't respond without answering the question.
Hi BD:I believe what the scriptures state, and so, then you should have the answer to your question.
Love in Christ,
Marty
How can you preach without taking a position?Are Jews going to hell, Marty?
Hi BD:I am not preaching my Word but God's Word, and that is my postion.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Does the word of God say that Jews are going to Hell, Marty?Also, Have you ever told anyone that they are in danger of going to hell and if so, why?
If you have ever told someone that rejecting Jesus was cause for someone to go to hell then you are being a hypocrite now when I ask you about Jews rejecting Jesus for there is no difference between Jew and greek, right?
Perhaps this will answer your questions.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.You also need to understand that “hell”, is nothing more than a hole in the ground, a “grave”.
You die, some one will put you into your hell/grave.
You have to get away from the foolish notion that man is immortal. The bible clearly states, only God is immortal.1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Georg
Quote (Cindy @ June 26 2009,16:34) Perhaps this will answer your questions. Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.You also need to understand that “hell”, is nothing more than a hole in the ground, a “grave”.
You die, some one will put you into your hell/grave.
You have to get away from the foolish notion that man is immortal. The bible clearly states, only God is immortal.1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Georg
Georg,So here you you seem to fully admit that “All” Israel will be saved even if they reject the Gospel.
So Jews don't need to believe in the Gospel of Jesus in order to be saved, right?
So your enimies do not have to believe what you believe to receive salvation, right?
So why do you preach that salvation can only come through Jesus Christ?
The price was paid by the sacrifice of Jesus. His death paid the price for all mankind from Adam to the last person born in this age. Not all will know the name of Jesus by which they may be saved but through their faith it is still what allows for God to accept us.
My opinion Wm
Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,16:54) Quote (Cindy @ June 26 2009,16:34) Perhaps this will answer your questions. Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.You also need to understand that “hell”, is nothing more than a hole in the ground, a “grave”.
You die, some one will put you into your hell/grave.
You have to get away from the foolish notion that man is immortal. The bible clearly states, only God is immortal.1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Georg
Georg,So here you you seem to fully admit that “All” Israel will be saved even if they reject the Gospel.
So Jews don't need to believe in the Gospel of Jesus in order to be saved, right?
So your enimies do not have to believe what you believe to receive salvation, right?
So why do you preach that salvation can only come through Jesus Christ?
Hi bd, may I reply with my opinion?
Georg quoted scripture Ro.11:26 “And so all Israel shall be saved”, that scripture 'hit the nail on the head' so to speak. And you repied, “So here you seem to fully admit that “All” Israel will be saved even if they reject the Gospel”.No, scripture says they will accept the gospel in the future, see Heb.8:8-13,
“8 For, blaming them, He is saying, “Lo! the days are coming,” the Lord is saying, “And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant,
9 Not in accord with the covenant which I make with their fathers In the day of My taking hold of their hand To be leading them out of the land of Egypt, Seeing that they do not remain in My covenant, And I neglect them,” the Lord is saying,
10 “For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days,” the Lord is saying: “Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.
11 And by no means should each be teaching his fellow citizen, And each his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord!' For all shall be acquainted with Me, From their little to their great,
12 For I shall be propitious to their injustices, And of their sins and their lawlessnesses should I under no circumstances still be reminded.”
13 In saying “new,” He has made the former old. Now that which is growing old and decrepit is near its disappearance.You see, not only all Israel will be saved, but ALL MANKIND will be saved. (1Cor.15:19-28) …
19 If we are having an expectation in Christ in this life only, more forlorn than all men are we.
20 (Yet now Christ has been roused from among the dead, the Firstfruit of those who are reposing.
21 For since, in fact, through a man came death, through a Man, also, comes the resurrection of the dead.
22 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.
23 Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence;
24 thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power.
25 For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy is being abolished: death.
27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him.
28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)Blessings, Jerry.
Quote (chosenone @ June 27 2009,05:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,16:54) Quote (Cindy @ June 26 2009,16:34) Perhaps this will answer your questions. Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.You also need to understand that “hell”, is nothing more than a hole in the ground, a “grave”.
You die, some one will put you into your hell/grave.
You have to get away from the foolish notion that man is immortal. The bible clearly states, only God is immortal.1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Georg
Georg,So here you you seem to fully admit that “All” Israel will be saved even if they reject the Gospel.
So Jews don't need to believe in the Gospel of Jesus in order to be saved, right?
So your enimies do not have to believe what you believe to receive salvation, right?
So why do you preach that salvation can only come through Jesus Christ?
Hi bd, may I reply with my opinion?
Georg quoted scripture Ro.11:26 “And so all Israel shall be saved”, that scripture 'hit the nail on the head' so to speak. And you repied, “So here you seem to fully admit that “All” Israel will be saved even if they reject the Gospel”.No, scripture says they will accept the gospel in the future, see Heb.8:8-13,
“8 For, blaming them, He is saying, “Lo! the days are coming,” the Lord is saying, “And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant,
9 Not in accord with the covenant which I make with their fathers In the day of My taking hold of their hand To be leading them out of the land of Egypt, Seeing that they do not remain in My covenant, And I neglect them,” the Lord is saying,
10 “For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days,” the Lord is saying: “Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.
11 And by no means should each be teaching his fellow citizen, And each his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord!' For all shall be acquainted with Me, From their little to their great,
12 For I shall be propitious to their injustices, And of their sins and their lawlessnesses should I under no circumstances still be reminded.”
13 In saying “new,” He has made the former old. Now that which is growing old and decrepit is near its disappearance.You see, not only all Israel will be saved, but ALL MANKIND will be saved. (1Cor.15:19-28) …
19 If we are having an expectation in Christ in this life only, more forlorn than all men are we.
20 (Yet now Christ has been roused from among the dead, the Firstfruit of those who are reposing.
21 For since, in fact, through a man came death, through a Man, also, comes the resurrection of the dead.
22 For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.
23 Yet each in his own class: the Firstfruit, Christ; thereupon those who are Christ's in His presence;
24 thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power.
25 For He must be reigning until He should be placing all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy is being abolished: death.
27 For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him.
28 Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all.)Blessings, Jerry.
All mankind will not be saved. Did you mean all mankind with faith in God will be saved?I'm glad you seem to understand that it is faith in GOD that is most important and yet there are some here who seem to want to reject Islam who believes in the Gospel of The KIngdom of God that Jesus preached and that Jesus is the Christ.
Quote (seekingtruth @ June 27 2009,01:47) The price was paid by the sacrifice of Jesus. His death paid the price for all mankind from Adam to the last person born in this age. Not all will know the name of Jesus by which they may be saved but through their faith it is still what allows for God to accept us. My opinion Wm
You have written one of the best posts written on this site that truly reflects the great Mercy and Grace of God Almighty.7) But any that (in this life) had repented, believed, and worked righteousness, will have hopes to be among those who achieve salvation.
( سورة القصص , Al-Qasas, Chapter #28, Verse #67)(1) Those who remember Allah (always, and in prayers) standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth, (saying): “Our Lord! You have not created (all) this without purpose, glory to You! (Exalted are You above all that they associate with You as partners). Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #191)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2009,07:20) Hi BD,
Is Islam of faith?
Knowing about Jesus does not make him your Lord.
He is the Lord of all.
Nick,Is Jesus the lord of God? You seem to be confused.
Is Jesus a partner with his God are they equal?
Do you believe in a binity or a trinity?
Hi BD,
Short memory[1Cor15]
God has never been one of us.
But for US Jesus is Lord and these words manifest that Spirit.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2009,07:31) Hi BD,
Short memory[1Cor15]
God has never been one of us.
But for US Jesus is Lord and these words manifest that Spirit.
Who is the lord of Jesus?Hi BD,
Do you not know of our God and the God of Jesus?
You cannot serve two masters so why choose your human leader when the works of God did not seem to accompany him, only strife?Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2009,08:02) Hi BD,
Do you not know of our God and the God of Jesus?
You cannot serve two masters so why choose your human leader when the works of God did not seem to accompany him, only strife?
You serve two masters, right?I serve One Master which is God Almighty and I honor all whom He has sent to us.
You serve two masters which are God and Jesus his servant.
Do you worship both of your masters or just one?
Hi BD,
For US Jesus is Lord.[1cor8]You would hope to please the Gardener being separate from the vine?
Such branches die and feed the fire.Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,16:54) Quote (Cindy @ June 26 2009,16:34) Perhaps this will answer your questions. Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.You also need to understand that “hell”, is nothing more than a hole in the ground, a “grave”.
You die, some one will put you into your hell/grave.
You have to get away from the foolish notion that man is immortal. The bible clearly states, only God is immortal.1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Georg
Georg,So here you you seem to fully admit that “All” Israel will be saved even if they reject the Gospel.
So Jews don't need to believe in the Gospel of Jesus in order to be saved, right?
So your enimies do not have to believe what you believe to receive salvation, right?
So why do you preach that salvation can only come through Jesus Christ?
bod…It is not I that preaches that.
Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.I find it naive to think that just because it says “all”, to take that literal and say, no matter what any one does, or doesn't do, he will be saved. There are after all, enough scriptures that teach to the contrary.
God will be in all that obey, to think or say otherwise is just plain foolish.Georg
bd, you say “all mankind WILL NOT be saved”, yet scripture says that all mankind WILL be saved!
1Tim.4:9-11 …9 Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.Blessings.
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