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- June 8, 2014 at 11:22 pm#387907terrariccaParticipant
Quote (Wakeup @ June 09 2014,04:11) Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2014,09:52) Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,04:00) Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2014,05:11) WUP Quote YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.FIRST WHICH SCRIPTURE SAY THAT GOD IS ;;;THE EVERLASTING FATHER;;;;
NOW UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST THE SON AS BEEN CREATED AS THE FIRST OF GOD'S CREATION ;AND SO IT IS UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WAS THEIR BEFORE IF NOT HOW COULD HE HAVE CREATED CHRIST ,
AND YES I BELIEVE THAT CHRIST EXISTED BEFORE HIS COMING TO GIVE UP HIS LIVE FOR US , THIS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENS AND MAKE THE MESSAGE OF SCRIPTURES SO MUCH MORE LINE UP IN GOD'S PLAN AND WILL SINS THE BEGINNING ,
You need to change the wording of this scripture
to make it fit in your doctrine.Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
***The mighty God***,
***The everlasting Father***,
***The Prince of Peace***.wakeup.
WUPSO IT IS THE BORN SON THAT IS CALLED EVERLASTING FATHER RIGHT NOT GOD ALMIGHTY
Read Isaiah9 once more; it's about the Son.
Unto us *A SON* is born.Isaiah 9:6
***For unto us a child is born***,
***unto us a son is given***:
***and the government shall be upon his shoulder***: ***and his name shall be called,
***Wonderful, Counsellor***,
***The mighty God***,
***The everlasting Father***,
***The Prince of Peace***.All this will not fit in your doctrine.
You must change the wording to your own pleasure.
Or go to some other translations that suits you better.But then you will get stuck again in some other place.
Because the scriptures can not be broken.Dont forget there can not be two God's and two Fathers.
wakeup.
wupsome of that stuff Mike told you already ,but you did not believe him nor the scriptures he presented ,
and I know you will be against what I will explain with scriptures as well ,for your doctrine does not support the truth of God unless you approved it ,
June 9, 2014 at 8:29 am#387986Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,09:33) hi,
Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power[acts 10]
No manifestation occurred till after the Holy Spirit came down on him as a dove at the Jordan
Hi Nick,Correct, but that does not mean Christ didn't have a spirit of his own.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 9, 2014 at 9:56 am#387988NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
He had his own spirit as a man.
It left on calvaryJune 9, 2014 at 2:14 pm#388000terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,15:56) Hi ED, He had his own spirit as a man.
It left on calvary
Nit died with him and was resurrected with him
if not show me scriptures
June 9, 2014 at 6:19 pm#388016NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Again?
Concentrate.jn 19.30
lk 23.46
mt 27.50June 9, 2014 at 9:59 pm#388065terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,00:19) Hi T,
Again?
Concentrate.jn 19.30
lk 23.46
mt 27.50
NJn 19:30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
two things here ;1) he completed the final action of what the Christ at to do in scriptures ,
2) he died as a man ,but his soul is not destroyed this is only God that can do that and so he will be resurrected
Lk 23:46 Jesus called out with a loud voice,“Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.
Mt 27:50 And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
this is the same as above
nothing as you said Nick look at the resurrection of Lazarus not 3 but 4 days
June 9, 2014 at 10:19 pm#388072NickHassanParticipanthi T,
Read what you can see there according to your mind.
I hope it helps youJune 9, 2014 at 10:26 pm#388074terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,04:19) hi T,
Read what you can see there according to your mind.
I hope it helps you
Nwhat is your point if you have any
June 9, 2014 at 10:28 pm#388077NickHassanParticipanthi t,
You ask for scriptures you could find yourself and then always find them faulty.June 9, 2014 at 11:45 pm#388091terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,04:28) hi t,
You ask for scriptures you could find yourself and then always find them faulty.
Ni did not find the scriptures faulty BUT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF IT ,
WAKE UP AND SEE ,THIS IS WHY I GOT THE GUTS TO SHOW THOSE SCRIPTURES WHILE YOU ONLY QUOTED THEM
AND STOP LYING THIS IS A GREAT SIN
June 10, 2014 at 3:28 am#388150NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Accusing again?June 10, 2014 at 4:02 am#388165WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,14:28) Hi T,
Accusing again?
You have sugested that Jesus was *EMPTY* of the HS
for thirty years.
You must be speaking of a different jesus.
The false doctrine you follow,in your heart,and love.
The world loves its own; and hates the truth.The Jesus I follow is the Word of God,which also has truth in it for ever. Truth never left him at any time.
God is truth. Truth does not come and go,for truth is truth.This is too much for you to comprehend at this time.
Just maybe Jesus will be gracious to you.wakeup.
June 10, 2014 at 4:24 am#388166NickHassanParticipanthi WU,
Do you think all men are blessed with the Spirit from conception?
Was he utterly different and advantaged?Do you have any scriptural evidence because that makes it difficult to follow him?
June 10, 2014 at 4:31 am#388167NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
If you are going to make such claims then you should also show the evidence of GIFTING and FRUIT in his early lifeJune 10, 2014 at 4:40 am#388169NickHassanParticipantHi WU
Acts 10
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Are you suggesting the anointing was BEFORE JOHN PREACHED?
June 10, 2014 at 4:54 am#388170WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,15:40) Hi WU
Acts 10
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Are you suggesting the anointing was BEFORE JOHN PREACHED?
We are discussing Jesus here; not any other person.1. He is the Son of God,meaning that He was Born BY
THE WILL OF GOD.2. He is that perfect sinless man given as a perfect sacrifice
without blemish.3. He is prfect because of the spirit in him was of God,not of
man.4. He has not the desires of the flesh,but of God only.
Can you undersand the difference now?
wakeup.
June 10, 2014 at 5:08 am#388171NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Your opinions I see.
Jn1
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So all reborn of the Spirit, like Jesus, are born of the will of God
He had a human spirit.
He was an overcomer
June 10, 2014 at 5:18 am#388172NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Do you want us to accept your opinions as valid teachings?June 10, 2014 at 5:50 am#388181WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,16:08) Hi WU,
Your opinions I see.
Jn1
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So all reborn of the Spirit, like Jesus, are born of the will of God
He had a human spirit.
He was an overcomer
We are about the one man Jesus at the moment.
Dont play skippy.He was a man with His own spirit;but he had no desires
of the spirit of the flesh at all.That spirit is dead.
His only desire is doing the will of His Father.
He is a perfect man in any way.wakeup.
June 10, 2014 at 6:18 am#388188terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,09:28) Hi T,
Accusing again?
N
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