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  • #387491
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,01:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,16:34)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,14:19)
    Hi,
    Lk3
    21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

    22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased


    Jesus was born as the image of God.
    The HS is continuously in Him.
    There was no time that He was empty.

    wakeup.


    W

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    Jesus was born as the image of God.

    ANY SCRIPTURES ???


    T.

    2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

    Colossians 1:15 ***Who is the image of the invisible
    God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    wakeup.

    #387494
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,05:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,01:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 06 2014,16:34)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,14:19)
    Hi,
    Lk3
    21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

    22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased


    Jesus was born as the image of God.
    The HS is continuously in Him.
    There was no time that He was empty.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    Jesus was born as the image of God.

    ANY SCRIPTURES ???


    T.

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

     Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                             God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    wakeup.


    wup

    2Co 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    you believe what you want ,interpret what you feel like ,the rest you just dump,

    this is not the believer way

    #387523
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,10:57)

    Quote
    Jesus was born as the image of God.

    ANY SCRIPTURES ???


    T.

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

     Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                             God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    wakeup.[/quote]
    wup

    2Co 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    you believe what you want ,interpret what you feel like ,the rest you just dump,

    this is not the believer way[/quote]
    Pierre

    You asked Wakeup if he can back up with scripture that Jesus is the image of God?

    He gave you the scriptures?
    It's clear. It's proof.
    and you say this is not the way of God?
    How do you come to this conclusion?
    What next?

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

    Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                            God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    #387571
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (journey42 @ June 07 2014,08:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,10:57)

    Quote
    Jesus was born as the image of God.

    ANY SCRIPTURES ???


    T.

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

     Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                             God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    wakeup.[/quote]
    wup

    2Co 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    you believe what you want ,interpret what you feel like ,the rest you just dump,

    this is not the believer way[/quote]
    Pierre

    You asked Wakeup if he can back up with scripture that Jesus is the image of God?

    He gave you the scriptures?
    It's clear.  It's proof.
    and you say this is not the way of God?
    How do you come to this conclusion?
    What next?

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

    Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                            God, the firstborn of every creature***:


    J42

    YES ,THAT IS WHAT HE SAYS AND SHOWED BUT THE DISCUSSION IS THAT HE WAS BORN FROM MARY INTO THE IMAGE, OR BECAME THE IMAGE AT THE JORDAN ,

    AND ON THAT I ASK “ANY SCRIPTURES “

    i KNOW VERY WELL THOSE SCRIPTURES IN 2 COR AND COLO; 1

    i BELIEVE AS IT SAY IN SCRIPTURES THAT CHRIST IS THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,AND SO WAS THEN CREATED INTO HIS IMAGE ,AND SO BECAME GOD'S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ,BECAUSE ALL OTHER CREATION BEINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM .

    #387590
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,05:28)
    Hi ED,
    He was born with the Spirit of anointing?
    Any scriptures??


    Hi Nick,

    “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #387601
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,22:33)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 07 2014,08:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,10:57)

    Quote
    Jesus was born as the image of God.

    ANY SCRIPTURES ???


    T.

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

     Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                             God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    wakeup.


    wup

    2Co 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    you believe what you want ,interpret what you feel like ,the rest you just dump,

    this is not the believer way[/quote]
    Pierre

    You asked Wakeup if he can back up with scripture that Jesus is the image of God?

    He gave you the scriptures?
    It's clear.  It's proof.
    and you say this is not the way of God?
    How do you come to this conclusion?
    What next?

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

    Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                            God, the firstborn of every creature***:
    [/quote]
    J42

    YES ,THAT IS WHAT HE SAYS AND SHOWED BUT THE DISCUSSION IS THAT HE WAS BORN FROM MARY INTO THE IMAGE, OR BECAME THE IMAGE AT THE JORDAN ,

    AND ON THAT I ASK “ANY SCRIPTURES “

    i KNOW VERY WELL THOSE SCRIPTURES IN 2 COR AND COLO; 1

    i BELIEVE AS IT SAY IN SCRIPTURES THAT CHRIST IS THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,AND SO WAS THEN CREATED INTO HIS IMAGE ,AND SO BECAME GOD'S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ,BECAUSE ALL OTHER CREATION BEINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM .


    IT IS CLEAR THAT PAUL SAID; THE FIRST BORN OF THE DEAD.
    ARE YOU GOING TO DISMISS THIS SCRIPTURE?

    YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
    BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
    AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.

    HOW CAN THE SON BE THE FATHER? WE HAVE ONE FATHER.

    You need to change the wording of isaiah 9,
    and you have.

    wakeup.

    #387606
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 07 2014,22:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,22:33)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 07 2014,08:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2014,10:57)

    Quote
    Jesus was born as the image of God.

    ANY SCRIPTURES ???


    T.

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

     Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                             God, the firstborn of every creature***:

    wakeup.


    wup

    2Co 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    you believe what you want ,interpret what you feel like ,the rest you just dump,

    this is not the believer way


    Pierre

    You asked Wakeup if he can back up with scripture that Jesus is the image of God?

    He gave you the scriptures?
    It's clear.  It's proof.
    and you say this is not the way of God?
    How do you come to this conclusion?
    What next?

    2 Corinthians 4:4   In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
    ***who is the image of God, should shine unto them***.

    Colossians 1:15   ***Who is the image of the invisible  
                            God, the firstborn of every creature***:
    [/quote]
    J42

    YES ,THAT IS WHAT HE SAYS AND SHOWED BUT THE DISCUSSION IS THAT HE WAS BORN FROM MARY INTO THE IMAGE, OR BECAME THE IMAGE AT THE JORDAN ,

    AND ON THAT I ASK “ANY SCRIPTURES “

    i KNOW VERY WELL THOSE SCRIPTURES IN 2 COR AND COLO; 1

    i BELIEVE AS IT SAY IN SCRIPTURES THAT CHRIST IS THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,AND SO WAS THEN CREATED INTO HIS IMAGE ,AND SO BECAME GOD'S ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ,BECAUSE ALL OTHER CREATION BEINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM .[/quote]
    IT IS CLEAR THAT PAUL SAID; THE FIRST BORN OF THE DEAD.
    ARE YOU GOING TO DISMISS THIS SCRIPTURE?

    YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
    BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
    AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.

    HOW CAN THE SON BE THE FATHER? WE HAVE ONE FATHER.

    You need to change the wording of isaiah 9,
    and you have.

    wakeup.


    wup

    I do not dismiss any scripture,

    but you do like this one ;

    Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
    Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
    Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
    Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
    Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

    if you read those scriptures you have to read them as one ,because Paul is talking about the same person from verse 15 to 20

    and pay attention to verse 18 and 19 and see who has SUPREMACY ??? IS IT NOT JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD THE ONE THAT DIED ON THE CROSS ??? YES

    #387607
    terraricca
    Participant

    WUP

    Quote
    YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
    BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
    AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.

    FIRST WHICH SCRIPTURE SAY THAT GOD IS ;;;THE EVERLASTING FATHER;;;;???

    NOW UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST THE SON AS BEEN CREATED AS THE FIRST OF GOD'S CREATION ;AND SO IT IS UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WAS THEIR BEFORE IF NOT HOW COULD HE HAVE CREATED CHRIST ,

    AND YES I BELIEVE THAT CHRIST EXISTED BEFORE HIS COMING TO GIVE UP HIS LIVE FOR US , THIS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENS AND MAKE THE MESSAGE OF SCRIPTURES SO MUCH MORE LINE UP IN GOD'S PLAN AND WILL SINS THE BEGINNING ,

    #387638
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2014,05:11)
    WUP

    Quote
    YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
    BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
    AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.

    FIRST WHICH SCRIPTURE SAY THAT GOD IS ;;;THE EVERLASTING FATHER;;;;???

    NOW UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST THE  SON AS BEEN CREATED AS THE FIRST OF GOD'S CREATION ;AND SO IT IS UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WAS THEIR BEFORE IF NOT HOW COULD HE HAVE CREATED CHRIST ,

    AND YES I BELIEVE THAT CHRIST EXISTED BEFORE HIS COMING TO GIVE UP HIS LIVE FOR US , THIS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENS AND MAKE THE MESSAGE OF SCRIPTURES SO MUCH MORE LINE UP IN GOD'S PLAN AND WILL SINS THE BEGINNING ,


    You need to change the wording of this scripture
    to make it fit in your doctrine.

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
    ***The mighty God***,
    ***The everlasting Father***,
    ***The Prince of Peace***.

    wakeup.

    #387639
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi,
    Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power[acts 10]
    No manifestation occurred till after the Holy Spirit came down on him as a dove at the Jordan

    #387640
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Mk1
    8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

    9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.

    10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

    11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

    #387644
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,04:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2014,05:11)
    WUP

    Quote
    YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
    BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
    AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.

    FIRST WHICH SCRIPTURE SAY THAT GOD IS ;;;THE EVERLASTING FATHER;;;;???

    NOW UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST THE  SON AS BEEN CREATED AS THE FIRST OF GOD'S CREATION ;AND SO IT IS UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WAS THEIR BEFORE IF NOT HOW COULD HE HAVE CREATED CHRIST ,

    AND YES I BELIEVE THAT CHRIST EXISTED BEFORE HIS COMING TO GIVE UP HIS LIVE FOR US , THIS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENS AND MAKE THE MESSAGE OF SCRIPTURES SO MUCH MORE LINE UP IN GOD'S PLAN AND WILL SINS THE BEGINNING ,


    You need to change the wording of this scripture
    to make it fit in your doctrine.

    Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
    ***The mighty God***,
    ***The everlasting Father***,
    ***The Prince of Peace***.

    wakeup.


    WUP

    SO IT IS THE BORN SON THAT IS CALLED EVERLASTING FATHER RIGHT ??? NOT GOD ALMIGHTY

    #387645
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,04:35)
    Hi,
    Mk1
    8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.

    9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.

    10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

    11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.


    N

    IT SEEMS THAT CHRIST PUBLIC LIFE ONLY BEGONE AFTER THOSE EVENTS ,RIGHT ???

    AND THAT JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST

    #387655
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Yes
    Born as the Christ in prophecy

    #387678
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,05:08)
    Hi T,
    Yes
    Born as the Christ in prophecy


    N

    no, he was born no as prophecy to come ;but as the accomplishment of prophecy the fulfillment of all the prophecies and so in him come the reality of prophecy no longer the spirit of prophecy this is why it says ;

    For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

    in plain English ;anyone that preach Christ ,are using the past prophecies to prove who Christ his ,was, and will be THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY ;

    #387685
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    plain english??

    #387694
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,08:13)
    Hi T,
    plain english??


    N

    COMMON ENGLISH IN EVERY DAY WORDS

    #387701
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Good idea

    #387797
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,08:46)
    Hi T,
    Good idea


    N

    NOT ONLY IDEA BUT THE TRUTH ,

    #387881
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2014,09:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 08 2014,04:00)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 08 2014,05:11)
    WUP

    Quote
    YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS CREATED IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE WORLD WAS; A SPERATE CREATURE FROM GOD?
    BUT GOD SAID HE IS FROM EVERLASTING.
    AND HE IS THE EVERLASTING FATHER,AND THE MIGHTY GOD.

    FIRST WHICH SCRIPTURE SAY THAT GOD IS ;;;THE EVERLASTING FATHER;;;;???

    NOW UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST THE  SON AS BEEN CREATED AS THE FIRST OF GOD'S CREATION ;AND SO IT IS UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WAS THEIR BEFORE IF NOT HOW COULD HE HAVE CREATED CHRIST ,

    AND YES I BELIEVE THAT CHRIST EXISTED BEFORE HIS COMING TO GIVE UP HIS LIVE FOR US , THIS MAKE SO MUCH MORE SENS AND MAKE THE MESSAGE OF SCRIPTURES SO MUCH MORE LINE UP IN GOD'S PLAN AND WILL SINS THE BEGINNING ,


    You need to change the wording of this scripture
    to make it fit in your doctrine.

    Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
    ***The mighty God***,
    ***The everlasting Father***,
    ***The Prince of Peace***.

    wakeup.


    WUP

    SO IT IS THE BORN SON THAT IS CALLED EVERLASTING FATHER RIGHT ??? NOT GOD ALMIGHTY


    Read Isaiah9 once more; it's about the Son.
    Unto us *A SON* is born.

    Isaiah 9:6
    ***For unto us a child is born***,
    ***unto us a son is given***:
    ***and the government shall be upon his shoulder***: ***and his name shall be called,
    ***Wonderful, Counsellor***,
    ***The mighty God***,
    ***The everlasting Father***,
    ***The Prince of Peace***.

    All this will not fit in your doctrine.
    You must change the wording to your own pleasure.
    Or go to some other translations that suits you better.

    But then you will get stuck again in some other place.
    Because the scriptures can not be broken.

    Dont forget there can not be two God's and two Fathers.

    wakeup.

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