Jesus is the image and we are an image

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  • #200919
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,06:27)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 28 2010,06:09)
    Gene,

    Do I 'hate' WJ, no, just what he says and his distraction techniques. See, i have put him under a curfew for two days. He will be back tomorrow , out of his curfew, with a vengence.


    Hi JustAskin,

    What does this mean you put WJ on curfew for two days?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    LOL NO WAY!!!!

    HAHA
    wow……

    #200923
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,06:27)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 28 2010,06:09)
    Gene,

    Do I 'hate' WJ, no, just what he says and his distraction techniques. See, i have put him under a curfew for two days. He will be back tomorrow , out of his curfew, with a vengence.


    Hi JustAskin,

    What does this mean you put WJ on curfew for two days?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    LOL NO WAY!!!!

    HAHA
    wow……


    Hi SF,

    Do you know what that means?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200931
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:36)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,06:27)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 28 2010,06:09)
    Gene,

    Do I 'hate' WJ, no, just what he says and his distraction techniques. See, i have put him under a curfew for two days. He will be back tomorrow , out of his curfew, with a vengence.


    Hi JustAskin,

    What does this mean you put WJ on curfew for two days?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    LOL NO WAY!!!!

    HAHA
    wow……


    Hi SF,

    Do you know what that means?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed j,
    no Idea!

    #200933
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:36)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,06:27)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 28 2010,06:09)
    Gene,

    Do I 'hate' WJ, no, just what he says and his distraction techniques. See, i have put him under a curfew for two days. He will be back tomorrow , out of his curfew, with a vengence.


    Hi JustAskin,

    What does this mean you put WJ on curfew for two days?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    LOL NO WAY!!!!

    HAHA
    wow……


    Hi SF,

    Do you know what that means?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed j,
    no Idea!


    HA Ha ha ha, Ah Ha Ha ha ha!!!!

    #200934
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:51)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:36)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,06:27)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 28 2010,06:09)
    Gene,

    Do I 'hate' WJ, no, just what he says and his distraction techniques. See, i have put him under a curfew for two days. He will be back tomorrow , out of his curfew, with a vengence.


    Hi JustAskin,

    What does this mean you put WJ on curfew for two days?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    LOL NO WAY!!!!

    HAHA
    wow……


    Hi SF,

    Do you know what that means?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed j,
    no Idea!


    HA Ha ha ha, Ah Ha Ha ha ha!!!!


    Wow…. Ja is taking his job to seriously!
    what did WJ do!!! my gosh..

    #200936
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:51)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,12:36)

    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 30 2010,18:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,06:27)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 28 2010,06:09)
    Gene,

    Do I 'hate' WJ, no, just what he says and his distraction techniques. See, i have put him under a curfew for two days. He will be back tomorrow , out of his curfew, with a vengence.


    Hi JustAskin,

    What does this mean you put WJ on curfew for two days?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    LOL NO WAY!!!!

    HAHA
    wow……


    Hi SF,

    Do you know what that means?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed j,
    no Idea!


    HA Ha ha ha, Ah Ha Ha ha ha!!!!


    Wow…. Ja is taking his job to seriously!
    what did WJ do!!! my gosh..


    Hi SF,

    Apparently something far worse than Here?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200937
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Edj, SF,

    I told WJ that for two days he could only speak Holy Spirited Truth, God's righteous Truth.

    And that's what he did. He said two things that were both true…and nothing else.

    It is to be noted what WJ 'did NOT say' while under the curfew. And also commended to him,atthe same time, for what he did not say!

    WJ well understands that to post anything other than truth while under 'curfew' is a very real dangerous thing…I mean, do you 'really' believe in the power of the Holy Spirit?

    If you do, then you know not to speak a lie while under curfew to it.

    Better to say nothing than 'Grieve the Holy Spirit'

    Then, after day two, he was back, out of his curfew and spouting, just as I said he would.

    Nothing 'prophetic', just 'pathetic'.
    Really, though, it was an easy prediction.

    This is the same as when Satan is put in the bottomless pit, he is seething but is under 'house arrest', 'curfewed'…

    And, of course, when he is released…ha! 'all hell breaks loose'

    Warning, please do not emulate what I did…this is not a 'fun thing'. Remember what happened to the person who thought he could expell demons like the Disciples? The evil spirit overwhelmed that person instead.

    You have been warned!

    #200939
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 30 2010,13:02)
    Edj,

    I told WJ that for two days he could only speak Holy Spirited Truth, God's righteous Truth.

    And that's what he did. He said two things that were both true…and nothing else.
    Then, after day two, he was back, out of his curfew and spouting, just as I said he would.

    Nothing 'prophetic', just 'pathetic'.
    Really, though, it was an easy prediction.

    This is the same as when Satan is put in the bottomless pit, he is seething but is under 'house arrest', 'curfewed'…

    And, of course, when he is released…ha! 'all hell breaks loose'


    Ja,
    i can only respond to this,

    at 3 am,
    maybe my cognitive memory can not encode what i have read into my shorterm memory and actualyl process the understanding of what you just said.

    so im just askin,

    Huh?

    #200941
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    The Spirit of Christ in Jesus imaged God.

    #200943
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,13:09)
    Hi,
    The Spirit of Christ in Jesus imaged God.


    Hi nick,
    Your face was created by God?

    #200948
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi SF,
    Perhaps we need a children's section?
    Grow up dude

    #200950
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,13:14)
    Hi SF,
    Perhaps we need a children's section?
    Grow up dude


    HI NIck,
    finally a human reaction,
    When did God humble you to be human again?
    I know im breaking you down,
    sooner or later.

    Actually it was a reasonable question, because it was Jesus who made your face.

    Humility is the best way to go.

    #200951
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 30 2010,19:02)
    Edj,

    I told WJ that for two days he could only speak Holy Spirited Truth, God's righteous Truth.

    And that's what he did. He said two things that were both true…and nothing else.
    Then, after day two, he was back, out of his curfew and spouting, just as I said he would.

    Nothing 'prophetic', just 'pathetic'.
    Really, though, it was an easy prediction.

    This is the same as when Satan is put in the bottomless pit, he is seething but is under 'house arrest', 'curfewed'…

    And, of course, when he is released…ha! 'all hell breaks loose'


    Hi JustAskin,

    This is off topic from the thread, but on topic to what we are discussing.

    Look at the bottomless pit in this light for a minute…

    We would expect that when people hit rock bottom,
    they will then turn to God instead of their own ways.
    But for some people, no matter how in shambles thier
    life is, they always see their life could be worse so this
    brings them comfort. But God's Spirit filled know this is
    truly a bottomless pit, because things can always get
    worse; this in NO comfort, only rebellion against God!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200957
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,13:17)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 30 2010,19:02)
    Edj,

    I told WJ that for two days he could only speak Holy Spirited Truth, God's righteous Truth.

    And that's what he did. He said two things that were both true…and nothing else.
    Then, after day two, he was back, out of his curfew and spouting, just as I said he would.

    Nothing 'prophetic', just 'pathetic'.
    Really, though, it was an easy prediction.

    This is the same as when Satan is put in the bottomless pit, he is seething but is under 'house arrest', 'curfewed'…

    And, of course, when he is released…ha! 'all hell breaks loose'


    Hi JustAskin,

    This is off topic from the thread, but on topic to what we are discussing.

    Look at the bottomless pit in this light for a minute…

    We would expect that when people hit rock bottom,
    they will then turn to God instead of their own ways.
    But for some people, no matter how in shambles thier
    life is, they always see their life could be worse so this
    brings them comfort. But God's Spirit filled know this is
    truly a bottomless pit, because things can always get
    worse; this in NO comfort, only rebellion against God!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ja,

    are you saying you cut off WJ for two days?
    you are responsible for that,

    or is it just a observation you made

    #200975
    JustAskin
    Participant

    SF,

    What do you not understand …

    I told/asked him (JA – not Moderator) to speak the truth. Just that. BUT I also said he must ONLY SPEAK HOLY SPIRITED TRUTH.

    He must only post things that were TRUTH  (i.e. THAT WGICH IS TRUTH and TRUTH alone)

    So he said nothing…

    Except that I was “NOT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT”… That is true – JA is “IN” the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is “IN” JA – not “OF” (Was it a trick statement on his part – wel, it didn't work – never will!)
    Sommat else he said which I can't remember – read the thread post… He ONLY Spoke Truth (two nothings of Truth)

    So he said nothing [else]… If he wanted to Speak TRUTH he was at liberty to do so – He just couldn't speak NON-TRUTH…
    So he said nothing…

    Geddit yet?

    I told him the 'surfew was for two days – BEFORE (or rather ON) the same day.

    Why would I only observe – what Power is there is restrospect – hindsight?
    Does God himself not say “I reveal these things BEFORE so noone can say when it happens 'I knew it'”

    – I told him that was the curfew limits – Even Satan is only bound for thousand years (What is that to an [immortal] spirit?)

    #201033
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 30 2010,16:24)
    SF,

    What do you not understand …

    I told/asked him (JA – not Moderator) to speak the truth. Just that. BUT I also said he must ONLY SPEAK HOLY SPIRITED TRUTH.

    He must only post things that were TRUTH  (i.e. THAT WGICH IS TRUTH and TRUTH alone)

    So he said nothing…

    Except that I was “NOT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT”… That is true – JA is “IN” the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is “IN” JA – not “OF” (Was it a trick statement on his part – wel, it didn't work – never will!)
    Sommat else he said which I can't remember – read the thread post… He ONLY Spoke Truth (two nothings of Truth)

    So he said nothing [else]… If he wanted to Speak TRUTH he was at liberty to do so – He just couldn't speak NON-TRUTH…
    So he said nothing…

    Geddit yet?

    I told him the 'surfew was for two days – BEFORE (or rather ON) the same day.

    Why would I only observe – what Power is there is restrospect – hindsight?
    Does God himself not say “I reveal these things BEFORE so noone can say when it happens 'I knew it'”

    – I told him that was the curfew limits – Even Satan is only bound for thousand years (What is that to an [immortal] spirit?)


    Ja,

    what thread are you talking about?

    #201074
    JustAskin
    Participant

    SF.
    Enough. This is not a self glorification session.

    #204630
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ June 23 2010,07:37)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 20 2010,22:48)
    To All,

    I'm confused…

    Jesus is the [visible] image of God, yes?
    But Man was also created in the [visible] image of God, yes?

    So…is man then not a [visible] manifestation of God?

    Also, in Heaven, Jesus was in the 'form of Spirit' but he then ''EMPTIED'' himself and was born in the 'form of Man'.

    He was fully man and therefore the same 'image of God' as all others of Mankind or that Mankind could be, that is, Sinless.

    The only difference between Jesus and any other man was that Jesus was sinless.

    This single difference, like the single DNA molecule difference, science says, between Man and Ape, makes a massive difference to the being. For Jesus it means that completely believes in his creator, just as Adam would have until he was tested. Adam failed, Jesus did not.
    Perhaps a thread about 'What exactly does ''in God's Image'' mean' is in the offing.

    To me, it means having the spirit of truth (Holy Spirit) and Thinking, Speaking and Acting in the same manner as the creatore, God Almighty.

    Therefore, Man can:
    – Think original and independent thought;
    – Speak those thoughts (Not simple predefined mimicks but highly complexed vocalisations);
    – Act[ion] those 'Words', the vocalisation of the original and independent thought.
    To wit – To be a Creator, to be a 'limited, restrained' version of God the Creator, written as 'a god'.


    Hi JA.

    I thought this was a vaild question and was worthy to have its own discussion.  So I have created one here:


    Hi t8,

    Yes, you are confused…lol

    I have some questions too.

    If, as you say, Jesus was spirit in heaven, how do you empty “spirit”?

    I was taught that Jesus was the Angel of the Lord which had a physical body, no? That could be emptied.

    What is the image of God that MAN was created in? Or in what form was the image manifested? (You said spirit in your response, which IS confusing..)

    Gen 1:27 GOD SAYS exactly what His image is…male and female. The other things that you are talking about is the LIKENESS of God mentioned in Gen 1:26.

    I understand what you're saying about Jesus being “sinless” but, if he was made “sin” for us, he is no longer is sinless. I know that Jesus didn't COMMIT sin but when he bore our sins….

    And for your last point….Man being a Creator (other than thought)is not likely. God created everything out of nothing. Man can only use what God created and make or manipulate it to make (not create) something out of it. The day man “creates” something out of nothing…

    The closest we come to creating something “NEW” is thru procreation.

    David

    #204655
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 23 2010,17:51)

    Quote (JustAskin @ June 23 2010,09:35)
    Gene,

    Since  everyone is born neither good nor evil (you choose two excitable words, I see) and acquire our 'sin' through what the 'lust' that in the world, do you think then that we could 'grow' a sinless person by keeping him 'from the world' from new born baby through to adulthood.
    I know, make him deaf, dumb and blind, like the three wise monkeys but in one body…hmmm..i just had a thought, yeah, i know,….no, i meant, WJ, KJ and Is 1.8 (I think that's the sum of their IQ!)

    IMAGE… 'In the likeness of another', 'mimicking the character and nature'(Like the ape character that TT had…very apt…no insult, he chose it himself.)

    Try not to limit your definition to human wisdom.

    'Image', in the case in point, is as I defined it…discuss.

    The point is, if one says that Jesus is God because he is the [Visible] image of God then is not man then also God because man is made in the [Visible] image of God.
    By the way, Scripture does not say that Jesus is the 'Visible' image of God. A very 'sad' person in this forum made it up to try to win a point…very sad…

    By the way, i wasn't confused. It just my funny way of acting ignorant and raising an issue in the image of one who is nonplussed!


    Ja………The invisible attributes of GOD are seen through His creation.  Jesus is a reflected those invisible attributes of GOD to Us, so he did IMAGE HIM right?

    You said, “i said” everyone is born neither good or evil and acquire our sin through the world. Actually i was quoting John He is the one who said that not me.  “for all that is in the world , the lust of the eyes , the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life , are (FROM) the World. He wen on to say and the world is passing away and it's lusts with it, as i recall.

    I have not found a scripture that say we are born Evil at berth so i assume we acquire it from what is Here. There is a scripture that says “train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart”. So it does appear we can learn behavior by our environments we are in. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours JA……………….gene


    gene

    what a strange person you are ,now your quote is repeated but changed ;
    first;You said, “i said” everyone is born neither good or evil and acquire our sin through the world. Actually i was quoting John He is the one who said that not me. “for all that is in the world , the lust of the eyes , the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life , are (FROM) the World. He wen on to say and the world is passing away and it's lusts with it, as i recall.

    now John;1Jn 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

    1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    1Jn 2:16 For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world

    scriptures say;
    so we are born in sin ,and we are to go to Christ to be forgiven for our sins and spot sinning and so are able to look forward to the days of God s promise,this would be not fallowing the world,

    Pierre

    #207212
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ July 18 2010,07:59)


    There is a difference in being in the likeness (proportional) than being The image.

    Man could not be that image of God because they destroyed that likness through the sins of the First adam, thats why the Second Adam came.

    And Jesus is the Son of God, not just any man. and he was born in the LIKENESS of flesh.
    but also yes he was sinless and bore our same circumstances.

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