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Kerwin.
I hope youre spirit of the flesh has been changed into the spirit of Christ.
I hope that your spirit of the flesh has come out of Babylon,and has seperated from the spirit of the world.
I hope that you have become a peculiar person; a seperate person with no ties to Babylon spiritually.
I hope that your fleshly lusts has departed; has no place in you anymore.wakeup.
Kerwin. Jesus came in the flesh. Before that, he existed in the form of God, and he emptied himself. In other words, he was rich, but he became poor for our sakes.
After he appeared in the flesh, he was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, and was taken up in glory. This is the same glory that he had with the Father before the world began.
God didn’t create a human being on the spot to save us, no he sent his only begotten son, the first-born of all creation. He paid the highest price to save our souls.
Where in scripture does it say that
He can make a man from an already existing spirit being.
Why would he?God created Eve from Adam. Eve is part of man. Eve was adam/man. So while man is the head of woman, Christ is the head of the man.
However, I am not sure of the point. Who is saying that God created Jesus from another person? When I get my spiritual body, I will still be me. But a more complete me. I may be a new creature in Christ with the old man as dead, but I am still me. Is it really that hard to believe that Jesus existed in the form of God and emptied himself and came in the flesh. He was rich and became poor for our sakes. He didn’t start off poor.
Kerwin.
You are implying that God has a soul?
God has the breath of life?
God has a physical body?
The Word of God has a soul?
You are forgetting, that God is a spirit.He is not flesh: as the angels, you say they are.The man Jesus yes,for he was a man.He was breathing air,
and He had a soul; and his soul is perfect before His God.
His soul is WITHOUT THE SPIRIT OF THE FLESH,BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
He has no fleshly desires.He lived just to serve His God.
We live to serve the flesh first;and God later in time, if we have time.wakeup.
Kerwin.
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1. He was turned into flesh? YES or NO?
2. He became flesh? YES or NO?
3. He came in the flesh? YES or NO?
4. He came in the likeness of sinful flesh? YES or NO?
5. He partook in flesh? YES or NO?
6. He was made in the likeness of a human being? YES or NO?
7. He was transformed into flesh? YES or NO?
8. He was changed into a human being? YES or NO?
9. He had two different “beginnings”? YES or NO? unquote.4.NO. HE WAS HOLY;AND TOOK UPON HIMSELF THE SINS OF THE WORLD.
9.NO. HE HAD NO BEGINNING. HE WAS SIMPLY TRANSFORMED,FROM SPIRIT TO FLESH.
IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD. MEANING: GOD’S WORD WAS BROUGHT FORTH FROM INSIDE GOD TO THE OUTSIDE OF GOD.NEXT TO HIM.
IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.THROUGH HIM ALL THINGS WERE MADE.GOD MADE ALL THINGS THROUGH HIS IMAGE.
GOD TEACHES US THROUGH HIS IMAGE.GOD WILL TURN THE FLESH INTO SPIRIT,THROUGH HIS IMAGE.
WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD.wakeup.
Yes, Wakeup. I agree. The Word that was IN God, he begat, and then the Word was WITH God. And God made all things through him and for him.
Wakeup,
http://www.learnthebible.org/does-god-have-a-soul.html
Leviticus 26:11
And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.
Leviticus 26:30
And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.
Isaiah 42:1
Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Zechariah 11:8
Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
Matthew 12:18
Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
Hebrews 10:38
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.I read this on that page Kerwin.
l (as related words like spirit, flesh, and heart) is a complex word that is used in numerous ways in the Bible. Context must be considered in order to determine how the word is being used in any given place. Although I believe the Bible clearly teaches the three-part nature of man (as being body, soul, and spirit), I also recognize that each of these three words is used in a variety of ways in scripture.
Commonly, the soul refers to the unseen part of man that makes up his real person–as found in his mind, will, and emotions. In other cases, the soul refers to the person as a whole (see Deuteronomy 26:16
; Joshua 10:39
; 11:11
; 1 Peter 3:20
). Related to this, the soul can be used in the way we often use the word self or myself today. This is probably the manner in which God refers to His soul in the Bible. When God’s soul abhors someone, He does so with His very self; with His own essence. He is not just allowing that person or that people to go through some testing or simply giving them needed correction. He actually, in and of His own self, abhors them. I believe that all of the other examples above can be applied in the same wayA person, but not all persons.
Did Jesus come in spirit? or in soul? or in flesh?
Jesus came in the flesh.
Jesus
a. came in the flesh
b. was changed from one type of existence to a flesh existence
“a” is correct, he came in the flesh
Contrast that to “the word became flesh”
What does that not say?
a. God became flesh
b. Jesus who was previously and angelic being became flesh
c. One third of a three part god became flesh
d. all of the above
“d” is the correct answer
It says the word, the logos, became flesh.
Genesis 3:15 became flesh
All that the OT prophesied about Jesus first coming became flesh.
The words were not just words anymore, they became real
Jesus Christ lived those words, not only about him, but all the words in the OT that pertained to him in his first coming to earth.
Kerwin.
Are you saying that God’s soul is equal to our soul?
God also mentioned His heart;has he got a heart;since He is a spirit.
He also mentioned my tears; has he got tears? Does God cry?
Need to decern scriptures.
He also once mentioned His bowels.
I can not copy and paste or I will loose all this.
Maybe next time.wakeup.
Kerwin.
Jeremiah 31:20 Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD.
Lamentations 2:11 Mine eyes do fail with tears, my bowels are troubled, my liver is poured upon the earth, for the destruction of the daughter of my people; because the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city.wakeup.
SonofGod.
(QUOTE).
b. Jesus who was previously and angelic being became fleshc. One third of a three part god became flesh
d. all of the above
“d” is the correct answer.(UNQUOTE).
ANSWER:
B. JESUS WAS NOT AN ANFELIC CREATURE THAT BECAME FLESH.
GOD’S OWN WORD BECAME FLESH.GOD;S WORD IS EQUAL IN POWER TO GOD.
BUT CAN NOT ACT ON HIS OWN.C.JESUS HAD THE FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLING IN HIM. NOT ONE THIRD PART.
HE IS EQUAL WITH GOD,BUT CONSIDERED HIMSELF A SERVANT OF GOD.wakeup.
Wakeup,
Yes, I believe I got to that point though I took a few posts to do that.
Just reading the words of Scripture and comprehending the language and grammar they are written in is not enough.
Wakeup,
3. He came in the flesh? YES or NO?
If we use “in the flesh” then it means a soul comes in the flesh just as Paul and believers live for Christ in the flesh, Galatians 2:20. So yes.
1. He was turned into flesh? YES or NO?
2. He became flesh? YES or NO?7. He was transformed into flesh? YES or NO?
8. He was changed into a human being? YES or NO?Jesus body was made of a woman, Galatians 4:4, who is a seed of David, Romans 1:3. So no to all four.
4. He came in the likeness of sinful flesh? YES or NO?
Romans 8:3
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:Galatians 5:19-21Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Yes, Jesus had the flesh nature for he was tempted even as common to man.
5. He partook in flesh? YES or NO?
Yes, he had the same type of body as his brothers.
6. He was made in the likeness of a human being? YES or NO?
Yes, he was made a human; body, soul, and spirit.
9. He had two different “beginnings”? YES or NO? unquote.
It is a contradiction to say anyone or anything has two literal beginnings.
Note: If my memory serves me well the quoted questions were Mike’s.
Note: My things to biblegateway.com for providing the passages I quoted.t8,
I also read it though I think some is extraneous and seemingly irrelevant though true. The conclusion though seems fine.
When God’s soul abhors someone, He does so with His very self; with His own essence.
That is what a soul is after all and God obviously does not have a human soul as he is not human.
Wakeup,
I am not sure how you are using the word equal. It is clear God’s soul is not a human soul as he is God. A human needs a body to be complete while God has no body and yet is complete.
Wakeup,
A soul is an essential being. Plants have no soul and God is not like them as they are physical and not soulical or spiritual while God is not physical but he is both soulical and spiritual.
Kerwin.
The Word was a spirit being formed into the image of God.
And He was made flesh.
He was ransformed unto flesh.From spirit to flesh.Just transformed;a transformation did occur at his birth.The Word of God itself had no beginning,Just as God himself had no beginning.
But there was a time at creation day; that the Word which was from everlasting; was given a form,into the image of God.
And through Him were all things created.He appeared from inside of God to the outside of God.Next to God.Now with God.
He was before In God.Therefore,the Word was God. God had not said his Word to create.He was in silence.Trees have no desires, therefore no soul.
Man’s soul can be changed; from evil to God fearing, through the Word of God.
Our deeds can change. We can have the renewing of the mind.
God’s soul is not like our soul.
When the flesh is dead, so is all the desires of the flesh,therefore no more spirit of want.
No more lust,greed,lying cheating.That spirit is gone.Dead.
But the life time deeds(soul) will be judged.The essence of the person.
Christians will be judged by the mercy of Jesus;not by the books.All sins have been blotted out.Removed.wakeup.
Do you have eternal life?
I John 5:13 states that it is God’s will that you are supposed to know if you have eternal life.
” These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”
I have eternal life.
God is holy and there fore we are to be holy. I Peter 1:16
“Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.”
Are you holy?
Why not?
Aren’t you at least a little bit holy?
I am at least a little bit holy.
God is eternal, He is the eternal spirit
God is holy.
I am at least a little bit holy and I have eternal life.
Therefore, since I have those two attributes, I am in the form of God.
If you have eternal life and are at least a little bit holy, you are in the form of God.
When did you receive eternal life? 10 years ago? 30 years ago? When did you start working on becoming holy?
How long have you been in the form of God?
Jesus being in the form of God. When did Jesus start being in the form of God?
Does Philippians 2:6-8 say anything about when Jesus began to be in the form of God, (yet not be God himself)?
“Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”No it doesn’t, but Matthew 1:18 tells us about the birth, the gennessis, the beginning of Jesus Christ.
” Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.”
Mary was pregnant with child of the Holy Spirit. Jesus was conceived in Mary’s womb.
Jesus’ beginning was at his conception and birth
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