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    Ed J
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    Quote (david @ July 31 2010,18:06)
    so you consider yourself a witness of Jehovah (YHWH), but of course not connected to the group called Jehovah's Witnesses?

    And, no, I am not.


    Hi David,

    YHVH is GOD=117: 117= “יהוה האלהים”(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm!

    Joshua 22:21-24 Then the children of “Reuben”(65) and the children of “Gad”(12)
    and the half tribe of “Manasseh”( 80÷2=40) answered, (65+12+40=117)
    and said unto the heads of the thousands of Israel,  The LORD God of gods,
    the LORD God of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion,
    or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,) That we have built
    us an altar(called Ed) to turn from following the LORD, or if to offer thereon burnt
    offering or meat offering, or if to offer peace offerings thereon, let the LORD himself require it;
    And if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying, In time to come your children
    might speak unto our children, saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel?

    The purpose of the free e-book (and snippets) is to reveal true “Bible truth”=117.

    AKJV Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
    (and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (עד [Ed]);
    for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that [יהוה האלהים=117] is [“GOD”].

    Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
    (Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117].

    Joshua=74(Jesus REAL Name) 22:34: And the children of Reuben and the children of Gad
    called the altar “עד”=74: for “Ed” shall be a “witness” between us that [“YHVH is GOD”=117].

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207323
    Ed J
    Participant

    Bump for David

    #207324
    david
    Participant

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    Hi David,

    YHVH is GOD

    Explain that to DavidBF.

    #207326
    david
    Participant

    Ed, I'm going to level with you.

    I am really really really good at math. However, I have largely ignored and haven't really even tried to understand your posts about the Bible code. Truthfully, I don't even have any idea how you arrive at the numbers.

    Since it seems like you are going to continue to use the numbers, could you briefly and simply explain where these numbers come from?

    #207330
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi David,

    Shouldn't we really be discussing this Here instead?

    People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understandBIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
    The God Numbers=151 are: 26, 63, 74, 117 & 151; these numbers are used to show “Bible Truth”=117!

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    God The Father=117 (Representing God's Name and title GOD: יהוה האלהים)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's English Name: “Joshua”)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
    HolySpirit=151 (“The word”: structure of “GOD” indwelling in us believers!)

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207331
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi David,

    “The Trinity”=148 is only used as a means of extracting Lucifer from “The Godhead”!
    These are the meanings of the “Three” Main Feasts of YHVH (out of Seven total Feasts).

                                (פסח = 148)    
                         The Passover = 148
                                   74 + 74 = 148

    At Jesus=74 decease: Lucifer=74 was extracted from “The Godhead” (Isaiah 14:19-20)
    “God The Father” resurrects Jesus. (Gal.1:1) Jesus then returns to Heaven. (Acts 1:5-9)
    “Tree of Life”=101 is “GOD”=26, because 101 is the 26Th Prime Number! (Genesis 3:24)
    The identity of יהוה=26 is GOD=26 spoken as YÄ=26: the “Tree of Life”! (Revelation 22:2)

                             Pentecost=117
                               (Click Here)

    Jesus=74 then sends the “Spirit of God”=117 in behalf of “God The Father”=117 to all the believers in God. (John 14:26)
    The LORD JEHOVAH=151 sends “Jesus Christ”=151 back with the “HolySpirit”=151 in behalf of all Believers! (John 14:23)

    John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the HolySpirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He shall
    teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father,
    even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He shall testify of me:

                       FEAST OF BOOTHS=151
                              (Click Here)

    Since we are now in the “Feast of Tabernacles”=151, which is also called
    “Feast of Booths”=151, believers should understand this! (John 14:23)

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207653
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 04 2010,17:15)
    Shimmer, elsewhere, Jesus said that his followers are to be “no part of the world.”  What do you make of that? (John 17:14; John 15:17-19)


    Hi David,

    What do 'you' (David) think it means?
    Do 'you' think it means what The Watchtower Society dictates?

    Watchtower Society PublicationKeep yourself in GOD'S LOVEpage 207

    Regarding everyone that “does not remain in the teaching of the Christ,” we read:
    Never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him
    is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2John 9-11) We do not have spiritual or social fellowship
    with disfellowshipped ones
    . The Watchtower of September 15, 1981, page 25, stated:
    “A simple 'hello' to someone can be the first step that develops into conversation and maybe even a friendship.
    Would we want to take that first step with a disfellowshipped person?”

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207771
    david
    Participant

    Ed, simple question:

    Do you agree with these words:
    “Never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him
    is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2John 9-11)

    Yes?

    No?

    Here's what someone named Casey Smith said on this site (JW Church thread, truth or tradition section, page 38):

    Quote
    Regarding disfellowshipping from the verses you [me, David] listed (which I was very familiar with) we are in agreement. I was simply not informed of the actual reasons that led to the steps and process administered. The strange thing is I now think the witnesses are the only group that follows these admonishments from Paul. Most of us non-witnesses brush over these verses and ignore them, I did. Now I must reconsider what I believe and what action I will take in applying them.

    –Casey

    #207793
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 02 2010,11:52)
    Ed, I'm going to level with you.

    I am really really really good at math.  However, I have largely ignored and haven't really even tried to understand your posts about the Bible code.  Truthfully, I don't even have any idea how you arrive at the numbers.

    Since it seems like you are going to continue to use the numbers, could you briefly and simply explain where these numbers come from?


    i been trying to get his code for the longest time,
    i just dont get it,

    David any luck?

    #207815
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 05 2010,18:04)
    Ed, simple question:  

    Do you agree with these words:
    “Never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a greeting to him
    is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2John 9-11)

    Yes?

    No?


    Hi David,

    For me the question is not a question of who 'you' say greetings to or
    for what reasons 'you' let someone into 'your' home or don't let them in.

    For me the question for me is this: you make a given assumption OF WHICH 'YOU' HAVE NOT GIVEN
       
    1) Your association of 'disfellowshipped ones' (from The Watchtower Society) with not abiding in the doctrines of Christ.
         You make the assumption that these two ideas are synonymous; You would have to prove
          to me that they are for me to answer Yes/no to 'your' presupposition connective assumptions
    .  

    I've had to 'cut-off 'an individual before (what 'your visible organization' calls 'disfellowshipped ones')
    based on behavior that does not follow the doctrines of Christ. So in that instance I would…
    “not receive him into my house neither bid him God speed”. (2John 9-11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #207816
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 05 2010,18:04)
    Ed,

    Here's what someone named Casey Smith said on this site (JW Church thread, truth or tradition section, page 38):

    Quote
    Regarding disfellowshipping from the verses you [me, David] listed (which I was very familiar with) we are in agreement. I was simply not informed of the actual reasons that led to the steps and process administered. The strange thing is I now think the witnesses are the only group that follows these admonishments from Paul. Most of us non-witnesses brush over these verses and ignore them, I did. Now I must reconsider what I believe and what action I will take in applying them.

    –Casey


    Hi David,

    Watchtower May 1, 2009, Page 6 First Paragraph and Last Paragraph.

    'However, to gain accurate knowledge of God's personality,
    each individual needs to open God's word, the bible, and examine
    it for himself. Do not passively allow others to mold your thinking.'
    'If you know what the bible really teaches about God, you will avoid being misled'…

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #213944
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 26 2010,17:57)
    You only accept the KJ as some direct gift from God.


    Hi David,

    Isn't that what you're doing with the N.W.T. (JW's version of the bible)?
    Wasn't the AKJV Bible used by 'your visible organization' up until 1963?

    Watchtower society publication: mankind's search for GOD Page 20…

    'Even though these individuates are considered founders of the major religions
    that we are familiar with, it must be noted that they did not actually originate religion.
    In most cases, their teachings grew out of existing religious ides,
    even though most of these founders claim divine inspiration as their source.
    Or they changed and modified existing religious systems
    that had become unsatisfactory in one way or another.'

    Wasn't the Catholic religious system around before yours?
    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.6:12-16)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #213964
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 03 2010,01:50)

    Quote
    Hi David,

    YHVH is GOD

    Explain that to DavidBF.


    Hello David,

    I don't have a problem with that.

    YHWH is God (El) as well as 1/2 of Elohim….which you would see listed as YHWH Elohim or LORD God.

    Pretty simple.

    The Professor

    #214064
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Aug. 26 2010,17:57)
    You only accept the KJ as some direct gift from God.

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Edit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    Hi David,

    Isn't that what you're doing with the N.W.T. (JW's version of the bible)?
    Wasn't the AKJV Bible used by 'your visible organization' up until 1963?

    Watchtower society publication: mankind's search for GOD Page 20…

    'Even though these individuals are considered founders of the major religions
    that we are familiar with, it must be noted that they did not actually originate religion.
    In most cases, their teachings grew out of existing religious ides,
    even though most of these founders claim divine inspiration as their source.
    Or they changed and modified existing religious systems
    that had become unsatisfactory in one way or another.'

    Wasn't the Catholic religious system around before yours?
    The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
    distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit
    .

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.6:12-16)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #214189
    davidbfun
    Participant

    I still believe that the Jews, YHWH's chosen people, are the one and only “true” Jehovah's Witness.

    That is why followers of Christ are called Christians.

    #214201
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,12:33)
    I still believe that the Jews, YHWH's chosen people, are the one and only “true” Jehovah's Witness.


    Hi DBF,

                  Sorry you feel that way about yourself; David!

          Leviticus 17:11  For the life of the flesh (of Jesus) is in the blood:
          and I(YHVH) have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement
          for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

                                      YHVH is GOD=117

          117= “יהוה האלהים”(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm!

    Joshua 22:21-24 Then the children of “Reuben”(65) and the children of “Gad”(12)
    and the half tribe of “Manasseh”(80÷2=40) answered, (65+12+40=117) and said
    unto the heads of the thousands of Israel,  The LORD God of gods, the LORD
    God of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion, or
    if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,) That we
    have built us an altar
    (called Ed) to turn from following the LORD,
    or if to offer thereon burnt offering or meat offering, or if to offer
    peace offerings thereon, let the LORD himself require it; And
    if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
    In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
    saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel
    ?

           AKJV Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
          (and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (עד Ed);
          for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that [יהוה האלהים=117] is [“GOD”].

          Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
          (Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117].

          Joshua=74(Jesus REAL Name) 22:34: And the children of Reuben
          and the children of Gad called the altar “עד”=74: for “Ed”
          shall be a “witness” between us that [“YHVH is GOD”=117].

                                 YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm
    Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #214210
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Actually, I feel lucky and I am honored to be able to call myself a Christian.

    #214213
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,14:18)
    Actually, I feel lucky and I am honored to be able to call myself a Christian.


    Hi David, (Click Here) (AKJV Gal.2:20 / 1Tm.1:15)

                       “Christian”=101

    God is also seen through “Prime Number Counterparts”
    “GOD”=26 raised Jesus back to life because God is the “Tree of Life”=101;
    101 is the 26th prime number in a long list of prime numbers starting with two.

    Being a “Christian is one who witnesses “YHVH is God”!

                                 YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #214312
    davidbfun
    Participant

    Actually, I have been witnessing for YHWH for about 2 months here and it appears all for naught.

    Ed wants to keep educating people that the Holy Spirit (noun, feminine) is YHVH the Father (noun, masculine). But that doesn't surprise me because he also says son = father. What is left to believe from what he says? He claims he is witnessing for YHVH, but apparently not the YHWH of the Bible.

    I like the statement on someone's signature that says to the effect: A honest man mistakenly wrong after being shown the truth either stops being wrong or honest.

    What will it be, Ed?

    #214337
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 29 2010,02:30)
    …that doesn't surprise me because he also says son = father.

    What will it be, Ed?


    Hi DBF, (Matt.7:2)

    Why do you bear false witness against me? (Exodus 20:16 / Deut.5:20)

    Produce your evidence or admit you were mistaken! (1Tm.5:19)

    What will it be, David? (Heb.10:26)

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