Jehovahjireh: did this Altar represent Jesus?

[Ed J]

I want to thank everyone in advance for taking part in my survey!

The place where Abraham built an “ALTAR” to sacrifice his Son Isaac was later called:  Jehovahjireh   (Gen 22:14)

        Was this Altar Prophetic concerning Jesus?     … Yes  or  No?

B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,09:15)

I want to thank everyone in advance for taking part in my survey! The place where Abraham built an “ALTAR” to sacrifice his Son Isaac was later called:  Jehovahjireh   (Gen 22:14)         Was this Altar Prophetic concerning Jesus?     … Yes  or  No? B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

Was Jesus suppose to symbolize Isaac the son that was spared death or the lamb that was killed in his place?

See, my belief would see it as Isaac(Jesus) was about to be sacrficed but God saved him from being sacrificed

Your belief would be that God saved Isaac(People) by killing a sacrificial lamb(Jesus) in his place

[TimothyVI]

^^^
Very perceptive Bod.
Tim

[bodhitharta]

Quote (TimothyVI @ April 16 2012,22:46)

^^^ Very perceptive Bod. Tim

Thank you

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 16 2012,12:46)

Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,09:15) I want to thank everyone in advance for taking part in my survey! The place where Abraham built an “ALTAR” to sacrifice his Son Isaac was later called:  Jehovahjireh   (Gen 22:14)         Was this Altar Prophetic concerning Jesus?     … Yes  or  No? B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) (1) Was Jesus suppose to symbolize Isaac the son that was spared death or the lamb that was killed in his place? (2) See, my belief would see it as Isaac(Jesus) was about to be sacrficed but God saved him from being sacrificed (3) Your belief would be that God saved Isaac(People) by killing a sacrificial lamb(Jesus) in his place

Hi BD,

1) Genesis 22:14, “Jehovah-Jireh” means: “GOD will see” and “GOD will provide”;
    this appertains to “JESUS”, “our provision back to GOD”. (see John 14:6)

2) muslims believe it was Ishmael rather than Isaac; why don't you?

3) This is the “Biblical” view, not mine alone. (see 1Cor.15:3-4)

B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2012,01:20)

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 16 2012,12:46) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,09:15) I want to thank everyone in advance for taking part in my survey! The place where Abraham built an “ALTAR” to sacrifice his Son Isaac was later called:  Jehovahjireh   (Gen 22:14)         Was this Altar Prophetic concerning Jesus?     … Yes  or  No? B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) (1) Was Jesus suppose to symbolize Isaac the son that was spared death or the lamb that was killed in his place? (2) See, my belief would see it as Isaac(Jesus) was about to be sacrficed but God saved him from being sacrificed (3) Your belief would be that God saved Isaac(People) by killing a sacrificial lamb(Jesus) in his place Hi BD, 1) Genesis 22:14, “Jehovah-Jireh” means: “GOD will see” and “GOD will provide”;     this appertains to “JESUS”, “our provision back to GOD”. (see John 14:6) 2) muslims believe it was Ishmael rather than Isaac; why don't you? 3) This is the “Biblical” view, not mine alone. (see 1Cor.15:3-4) B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

1. God does provide

2. “Muslims” Inclusively do not believe it was Ishmael rather than Isaac the Quran does not specify, however we do know that the Jews chamged certain things in the scriptures such as calling Isaac Abraham's only begotten son: Hebrews 11:17
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

Was Isaac Abraham's only begotten son? Yes or No?

3.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4

New International Version (NIV)

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

Now back to #2 was Isaac Abraham's only begotten son because according to the scriptures it says he is but according to the scriptures Ishmael was his firstborn son, which is it?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 26 2012,05:24)

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

Hi BD,

Issac is Abraham's only begotten son, comparatively
to how Jesus is God's only begotten son.

Ismael is to Abraham is like Adam is to God.
Adam, which was the son of God. (Luke 3:38)

“offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,” (Heb 11:17)

               Are you willing acknowledge that God's only begotten son died for YOUR sins?           (see thread title at top)
               That the promises of God might come through Jesus Christ.                                  (Jehovahjireh the prophetic altar)

“God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.” (1 John 4:9)

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“The Passover”(74×2) is the first of God's three great feasts, making way for
“Pentecost”(117), which is the second, which in turn enables
“Tabernacles Feast”(151).

“Jesus Christ”(151) was “The testator”(151), enabling you        (Hebrews 9:16-17)
to get the “HolySpirit”(151) of “The LORD JEHOVAH”(151).        (Isa 12:2 † Isa 26:4)

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 26 2012,05:24)

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

It is good when you ask questions,
and better when you believe the answers!

according to the Scriptures  –  is where you will find the truth           …the 'book of fraud' (unholy quran) is a perversion

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,18:30)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 26 2012,05:24) 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, Hi BD, Issac is Abraham's only begotten son, comparatively to how Jesus is God's only begotten son. Ismael is to Abraham is like Adam is to God. Adam, which was the son of God. (Luke 3:38) “offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,” (Heb 11:17)                Are you willing acknowledge that God's only begotten son died for YOUR sins?           (see thread title at top)                That the promises of God might come through Jesus Christ.                                  (Jehovahjireh the prophetic altar) “God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.” (1 John 4:9) “The Passover”(74×2) is the first of God's three great feasts, making way for “Pentecost”(117), which is the second, which in turn enables “Tabernacles Feast”(151). “Jesus Christ”(151) was “The testator”(151), enabling you        (Hebrews 9:16-17) to get the “HolySpirit”(151) of “The LORD JEHOVAH”(151).        (Isa 12:2 † Isa 26:4) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

“The Bible” is the “Book of Truth”(151)

[Stu]

Or rather the Book of Truth™.

Does the ™ make it add up to 153?

Stuart

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ April 16 2012,07:46)

Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,09:15) I want to thank everyone in advance for taking part in my survey! The place where Abraham built an “ALTAR” to sacrifice his Son Isaac was later called:  Jehovahjireh   (Gen 22:14)         Was this Altar Prophetic concerning Jesus?     … Yes  or  No? B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) Was Jesus suppose to symbolize Isaac the son that was spared death or the lamb that was killed in his place? See, my belief would see it as Isaac(Jesus) was about to be sacrficed but God saved him from being sacrificed Your belief would be that God saved Isaac(People) by killing a sacrificial lamb(Jesus) in his place

bod

do you really think that that is what it meant it seems to me ;yes

but was it really that , that what was meant to be understood by the request of God to Abraham

[Anastas]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 26 2012,12:24)

1. God does provide 2. “Muslims” Inclusively do not believe it was Ishmael rather than Isaac the Quran does not specify, however we do know that the Jews chamged certain things in the scriptures such as calling Isaac Abraham's only begotten son: Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, Was Isaac Abraham's only begotten son? Yes or No? 3. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 New International Version (NIV) 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, Now back to #2 was Isaac Abraham's only begotten son because according to the scriptures it says he is but according to the scriptures Ishmael was his firstborn son, which is it?

Yes he was but not according to the flesh as you may believe, but according to faith.

Matt 3:9 – “and think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.”

This is to show how little being a physical descendant mattered without faith. We can see this from our brother Paul who wrote:

Gal 3:7 – “Know therefore that they that are of faith, the same are sons of Abraham”

Therefore Isaac is the only true begotten son of Abraham because he was a son of faith and Ishmael was not.

Now I am not saying the physical lines are useless because it says the kingdom of heaven are “for the Jew first and then the Gentile” but a descendant of Abraham only in the flesh and not in the faith is dead already.

[2besee]

Hi Anastas, welcome

[Ed J]

Welcome to H-net Anastas!

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,09:15)

I want to thank everyone in advance for taking part in my survey! The place where Abraham built an “ALTAR” to sacrifice his Son Isaac was later called:  Jehovahjireh   (Gen 22:14)         Was this Altar Prophetic concerning Jesus?     … Yes  or  No? B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.

Jehovah jereh meaning God will provide.
And he did provide the sacrifice;which was a deer caught in the bushes.

The alter did not represent Jesus.
Jesus was *THE SACRIFICE*;not the alter where the sacrifices are performed.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Bod

Just like Issac was saved from dead,as the only son begotten through the wive he loved and was steril ,but was promised to have childbirth ,and believed ,this is True faith , and so Paul explain this ,that anyone that processes that same faith ,would also be saved ,because of the believe of God,s promised ,

But this is written in the bible ,not in the Koran ,

So you take the Koran and live by it ,and pick up ,what is it ,it's offert ,72 vergins in paradise of the dead For Killing people on earth ,destroying fellow humans, to segregate in bulk in the world cities and wait for the powers of many to take over and so destroyed and over take ,and force all things backwards ,to the middle dark ages,???

Or,what Bod, what is the real plan here tell me

[kerwin]

T,

You are assuming that certain people interpret the Koran correctly. I doubt it as man tends to twist documents in order to justify himself.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,02:51)

T, You are assuming that certain people interpret the Koran correctly.  I doubt it as man tends to twist documents in order to justify himself.

k

what is the correct interpretation of the KORAN,do you know ?

I do not ;it looks to me like a book full of holes ,that the readers fill as they go

[kerwin]

T,

It is not my concern. My concern is the message of how to be righteous as God is righteous.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,05:14)

T, It is not my concern.  My concern is the message of how to be righteous as God is righteous.

K

why then you talking about the Koran or anyone that follows it ,???

how can any one reach righteousness without the TRUTH OF GOD ,AND THE WAY THAT HE AS ESTABLISH ;HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON JESUS CHRIST ,

are you trying to confuse me

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