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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,19:57) Hi ED,
No.
Our spirit abides with the Holy Spirit[rom 8.16] till death when it leaves[ecc 12.7] as happened with Jesus on calvary
Hi Nick,What are you saying no to?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,19:58) Hi ED,
When we die we are only sustained by the Holy Spirit as with Jesus.
The Spirit of life gives us eternal life
yes, and… ?Hi ED
“And also our spirit also becomes ONE with the spirit of Christ and with God's HolySpirit”This is the no.
Our spirit only gives us life till we die.
Before the silver cord breaks and the bucket falls to the bottom of the well[ecc12] we must have found the waters of eternal life[Jn7.37]Hi Nick,
I thought you were trying to make a point, you were not?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,20:35) Hi ED
“And also our spirit also becomes ONE with the spirit of Christ and with God's HolySpirit”This is the no.
Our spirit only gives us life till we die.
Before the silver cord breaks and the bucket falls to the bottom of the well[ecc12] we must have found the waters of eternal life[Jn7.37]
Hi Nick,God's HolySpirit resurrects us from the dead.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2014,23:13) Hi Ed,
Yes. We are raised by the Spirit
Nwhat is that spirit that suppose to raise us
Hi,
Col2
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Are you not dead and buried with Jesus?
Hi,
Col3
Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
dead
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,09:26) Hi,
Col2
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Are you not dead and buried with Jesus?
Nbut Christ baptism is not of water but of the spirit of truth given to those that believe in him and his father ;
and the dead in his dead is our death in the deeds and works for the flesh ,and the resurrection is the final gift of God through Christ ;everlasting life,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2014,11:38) Hi T,
He baptised in water.
His brothers baptised in his name in water.What is your point?
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first Jesus did not baptize anyone ;and the water baptism is for Jews ,for they have sinned under God's law ,so repentance is necessary
but not for gentiles ,
it is better not have been baptized and do the things required by God and his son ,
than being baptized and serve the wrong group of infidels (false teachers)because you would participate in there corruption against God ,
but if your conscience does not give you peace on this then go and find some one to baptize you but make sure that you are not baptized in the name of that man or his religion ,
but understand that the water does not save ,it is only a symbol and so it is the real things that saves you ,the things that are set in our hearts and in the truth of God ,
Hi T,
You are rightJohn 3:22
After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.John 4:1
When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)The jews though were no more sinners than the gentiles as all have a conscience that the law reflects.
All must repent. Lk 13.1fThose outside the law will perish outside the law.Rom2.12
Baptism in the name of Jesus is a command not a choice
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,00:15) Hi T,
You are rightJohn 3:22
After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.John 4:1
When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)The jews though were no more sinners than the gentiles as all have a conscience that the law reflects.
All must repent. Lk 13.1fThose outside the law will perish outside the law.Rom2.12
Baptism in the name of Jesus is a command not a choice
Nall those scriptures you showed me are baptism for Jews
so it was the baptism of repentance that they were doing ,
not the baptism into the name of Christ ,
this baptism came later after his death , the baptism of the holy spirit ,(Pentecost)
and this baptism only occurred a few times after that, it was by the laying of the hands
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,00:15) Hi T,
You are rightJohn 3:22
After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.John 4:1
When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)The jews though were no more sinners than the gentiles as all have a conscience that the law reflects.
All must repent. Lk 13.1fThose outside the law will perish outside the law.Rom2.12
Baptism in the name of Jesus is a command not a choice
NLk 13:1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.
Lk 13:2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way?
Lk 13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
Lk 13:4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem?
Lk 13:5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”Jesus seem not say that it is by a action of baptism in water that we will gain repentance
the true repentance from our action in the heart and soul ,
MT 5:44 “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
MT 6:5 “When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.
MT 6:6 “But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.MK 11:24 “Therefore I say to you, all things for which you pray and ask, believe that you have received them, and they will be granted you.
Lk 18:9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable:
Lk 18:10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Lk 18:11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector.
Lk 18:12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
Lk 18:13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
Lk 18:14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”repentance start with prayers ;
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.faith is not water baptism nor is it the gift of life ,nor does it saves anyone ;
hi T,
Do you see repentance after baptism in the bible?
No the gift of God is repentance for sinners to come to JesusQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2014,03:09) hi T,
Do you see repentance after baptism in the bible?
No the gift of God is repentance for sinners to come to Jesus
Nno ;the gift of God is not repentance BUT FORGIVENESS THROUGH THE BLOOD OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON ,
AND IT IS THROUGH THE FAITH IN THE SON,THE ONE THAT COMES TO CHRIST AS ALREADY FIND IN IS HEART THE SUBMISSION NEEDED TO BE SAVED
Jn 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
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