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Israelis and Israelites
Israelis: The current inhabitants of the State of Israel.
Israelites: True descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, or those people grafted in by reason of righteousness. Only God knows who they all are. Amos 9:9
Most Western Christians view modern Israelis as a continuation of the ancient Biblical drama of Israel and as the inheritors of the traditional role that the Jews have played through the ages. Through them, we have a universal moral code of justice: the Ten Commandments. These Divinely inspired Laws form the basis of our Judeo/Christian morality and ethics. Therefore modern Israel has been expected to reflect a high level of justice and morality in its actions.
Jewish teaching also says that history is not as the Greeks taught it, that is: a cyclical series of events in which mankind gets no better or no worse. The Torah, the Talmud and the Mishnah, all teach that we can steadily uplift human society and eventually there will come a Messianic era of true peace and harmony.
Although the State of Israel does display restraint in their dealings with their neighbours, it can hardly be said that they maintain Biblical precepts, such as ‘Love thy neighbour’. And as for moral leadership, Israeli’s are a seriously bad example!
What then of the prophesies that say the Israelites are a chosen people, destined to be a ‘light to the nations’? We must be aware and keep in mind that the Jewish people are comprised of only 2 tribes, of the original 12 sons of Jacob. [Parts of some others are assimilated.] Ezekiel 22:15 The current Israeli people are just ‘the budding of the fig tree’, a first fruit of the final regathering of ALL the Israelite people.
We are told in many prophecies that Judah will be judged and punished for their many sins, but a remnant will survive to become a ‘holy seed in the Land’. Isaiah 6:13 Then, the great spiritual regeneration and rejoining of all the Israelites will take place; Ezekiel 37:1-19, and as Ezekiel 37:20-28 goes on to say: I shall make them a single nation in the holy Land and I shall pour out My Spirit upon them. Isaiah 44:1-5
Then the Lord’s righteous people will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and 12,000 from each tribe will go out to the world, to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Rev. 14:1-7
This judgement/punishment event will severely affect the whole world, Luke 21:35 and the nations will cede their sovereignty to a One World Government in order to re-establish normal life, initially ten regions will be formed, each with a Governor or President. Fairly soon, a charismatic and powerful man will rise and take control of them all, declaring himself to be the great leader and saviour of humankind.
New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] will not join this federation, they become rich and prosperous, blessed by the Lord, living in peace as God wipes out the Gog/Magog attack, but they become complacent and when the OWG leader comes to make a peace treaty with them, their leaders agree to it, forgetting that it is the Lord who protects and saves them. This is the trigger for the start of the final seven years, as prophesied in Daniel. The first 3.5 years will be peaceful, but then the OWG leader comes to Jerusalem with his army and conquers Beulah. He goes to the new Temple and sits in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God. This commences the trumpet and bowl punishments of the great Tribulation, which lasts for 3.5 years. Those righteous Israelites, who refused to agree to the treaty with the OWG leader, are promised a place of safety for this time. Then the Lord Jesus will Return in glory, to reign on earth for 1000 years. After that comes the Great White Throne judgement of all the living and dead. Finally: eternity with God in the New Jerusalem![/B]
Quote (keras @ Aug. 02 2013,10:53) Israelis and Israelites
Israelis: The current inhabitants of the State of Israel.
Israelites: True descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, or those people grafted in by reason of righteousness. Only God knows who they all are. Amos 9:9
Most Western Christians view modern Israelis as a continuation of the ancient Biblical drama of Israel and as the inheritors of the traditional role that the Jews have played through the ages. Through them, we have a universal moral code of justice: the Ten Commandments. These Divinely inspired Laws form the basis of our Judeo/Christian morality and ethics. Therefore modern Israel has been expected to reflect a high level of justice and morality in its actions.
Jewish teaching also says that history is not as the Greeks taught it, that is: a cyclical series of events in which mankind gets no better or no worse. The Torah, the Talmud and the Mishnah, all teach that we can steadily uplift human society and eventually there will come a Messianic era of true peace and harmony.
Although the State of Israel does display restraint in their dealings with their neighbours, it can hardly be said that they maintain Biblical precepts, such as ‘Love thy neighbour’. And as for moral leadership, Israeli’s are a seriously bad example!
What then of the prophesies that say the Israelites are a chosen people, destined to be a ‘light to the nations’? We must be aware and keep in mind that the Jewish people are comprised of only 2 tribes, of the original 12 sons of Jacob. [Parts of some others are assimilated.] Ezekiel 22:15 The current Israeli people are just ‘the budding of the fig tree’, a first fruit of the final regathering of ALL the Israelite people.
We are told in many prophecies that Judah will be judged and punished for their many sins, but a remnant will survive to become a ‘holy seed in the Land’. Isaiah 6:13 Then, the great spiritual regeneration and rejoining of all the Israelites will take place; Ezekiel 37:1-19, and as Ezekiel 37:20-28 goes on to say: I shall make them a single nation in the holy Land and I shall pour out My Spirit upon them. Isaiah 44:1-5
Then the Lord’s righteous people will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and 12,000 from each tribe will go out to the world, to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Rev. 14:1-7
This judgement/punishment event will severely affect the whole world, Luke 21:35 and the nations will cede their sovereignty to a One World Government in order to re-establish normal life, initially ten regions will be formed, each with a Governor or President. Fairly soon, a charismatic and powerful man will rise and take control of them all, declaring himself to be the great leader and saviour of humankind.
New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] will not join this federation, they become rich and prosperous, blessed by the Lord, living in peace as God wipes out the Gog/Magog attack, but they become complacent and when the OWG leader comes to make a peace treaty with them, their leaders agree to it, forgetting that it is the Lord who protects and saves them. This is the trigger for the start of the final seven years, as prophesied in Daniel. The first 3.5 years will be peaceful, but then the OWG leader comes to Jerusalem with his army and conquers Beulah. He goes to the new Temple and sits in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God. This commences the trumpet and bowl punishments of the great Tribulation, which lasts for 3.5 years. Those righteous Israelites, who refused to agree to the treaty with the OWG leader, are promised a place of safety for this time. Then the Lord Jesus will Return in glory, to reign on earth for 1000 years. After that comes the Great White Throne judgement of all the living and dead. Finally: eternity with God in the New Jerusalem!
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Keras.You are on the right path,but still missing out a few peaces of the puzzle.
The good thing is, that you can see the remnant of the jews will be brought back to their own land.1,Christ will come to destroy the cities of the nations(babylon). the saints resurrected in spirit.
2. Christ then will set up his kingdom in israel.
3. The chosen jews will be put in the kingdom; in the flesh,and taught by the resurrected saints,for a 1000yrs.
4.The jews then will also teach the gentiles outside.
untill many will also come to Christ.5.Then satan let loose from his prison to draw all the non believers to his side,and gather them to surround the camp of the saints(the kingdom).
6. Satan and all his followers will be destroyed by God himself; and will be burried in a place called *HAMON GOG*.
7. Then the second white throne judment;of all the dead of all generations.The whole earth will be his kingdom.
There will be no more nations.8. Then the heavens and the earth melted;the new heavens and the new earth prepared.
9. Then God himself will come down to the new earth,
and all can see him face to face.wakeup.
Why do you keep calling the people in Christ's Kingdom: Jews? The Jewish people will be only 1/6th of the new nation of Beulah.
Also, the prophecies say that although Jesus will instigate the terrible disaster that will destroy the Babylon cities, He will not be seen and it will be viewed as a natural event. As we see in the news lately, there have been many sun spots and its not a matter of if, but when – a really big CME hits us.Quote (keras @ Aug. 02 2013,21:11) Why do you keep calling the people in Christ's Kingdom: Jews? The Jewish people will be only 1/6th of the new nation of Beulah.
Also, the prophecies say that although Jesus will instigate the terrible disaster that will destroy the Babylon cities, He will not be seen and it will be viewed as a natural event. As we see in the news lately, there have been many sun spots and its not a matter of if, but when – a really big CME hits us.
Hi keras.1. There can only be jews in the flesh living in the kingdom. Because: at the coming the all gentiles saints will be resurrected,and *some* christian jews also.
They will be spirit.2. The rest that did not make it, and managed to survive
armageddon;will not be allowed in the kingdom.3. The coming of Christ will be seen by all nations,and he will destroy babylon in an instant; in one day.rev.18:8.
She will fall like the breaking of a wall; instantly.4. After the mark have been enforced;then we can start looking for the first trumpet. No news can tell us the signs.
wakeup.
keras,Aug. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Then the Lord’s righteous people will be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and 12,000 from each tribe will go out to the world, to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Rev. 14:1-7 Daniel And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword , and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil many days.
Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
Quote New Israel, [Beulah, Isaiah 62:1-5] will not join this federation, Daniel 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant (ISRAEL)
Isaiah 28:15 Because ye have said (ISRAEL), We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Isaiah 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
I'm confused, because New Israel cannot be established until Christ destroys babylon the great at his coming.
Quote they become rich and prosperous, blessed by the Lord, living in peace
This cannot happen until the Prince of Peace comes. Jesus Christ's second coming.
Plus, the kings of the east cross over into Israel, and all the armies of the nations gather there right before the Lord returns. So we can see there is no peace and prosperity there, just total devastation.Quote as God wipes out the Gog/Magog attack,
This is 1000 years after Christ's return?Quote but they become complacent and when the OWG leader comes to make a peace treaty with them, their leaders agree to it, forgetting that it is the Lord who protects and saves them. This is the trigger for the start of the final seven years, as prophesied in Daniel. The first 3.5 years will be peaceful, but then the OWG leader comes to Jerusalem with his army and conquers Beulah. He goes to the new Temple and sits in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God. This commences the trumpet and bowl punishments of the great Tribulation, which lasts for 3.5 years.
Yes.Quote Those righteous Israelites, who refused to agree to the treaty with the OWG leader, are promised a place of safety for this time. Then the Lord Jesus will Return in glory, to reign on earth for 1000 years. After that comes the Great White Throne judgement of all the living and dead. Finally: eternity with God in the New Jerusalem!
All Israel will be fooled by this new leader at first. They will receive his mark. He will turn against them and some will realise they made a mistake because of their affliction and the two witnesses will be there in Israel confirming the prophesies.Hi Keras.
Thank you for your post. This will make a good discussion.
I agree with most of what you are saying, I'm just not sure about the order of events?Yes J42, much confusion reigns throughout the Christian world about the end times. The prophecies are purposely made difficult to understand, for obvious reasons; God doesn't want all and sundry to know His plans.
But the main problem with Christians, is belief in and adherence to, false teachings. Isaiah 29:9-11 says; If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused…for the Lord has poured on you a spirit of deep stupor…
This is the difficulty that I hope to help people overcome, by presenting scripture in a easily read way from a good modern translation. I believe the sequence of events that I posted above to be correct, logical and sensible and I can support it all from Bible prophecy. Any points you want clarified, please ask.
The Gog/Magog attack, for example; the mention of them again in Rev. 20:8 in merely as a type – a vast host. But the attack as described in Ezekiel 38-39, is against Beulah – living in 'unwalled towns', rich and prosperous, gathered from the nations in the land recently restored from ruin…38:8. The 7 years of burying the dead, fits perfectly before the Tribulation period.Quote (keras @ Aug. 03 2013,07:26) Yes J42, much confusion reigns throughout the Christian world about the end times. The prophecies are purposely made difficult to understand, for obvious reasons; God doesn't want all and sundry to know His plans.
But the main problem with Christians, is belief in and adherence to, false teachings. Isaiah 29:9-11 says; If you confuse yourself, you will stay confused…for the Lord has poured on you a spirit of deep stupor…
This is the difficulty that I hope to help people overcome, by presenting scripture in a easily read way from a good modern translation. I believe the sequence of events that I posted above to be correct, logical and sensible and I can support it all from Bible prophecy. Any points you want clarified, please ask.
The Gog/Magog attack, for example; the mention of them again in Rev. 20:8 in merely as a type – a vast host. But the attack as described in Ezekiel 38-39, is against Beulah – living in 'unwalled towns', rich and prosperous, gathered from the nations in the land recently restored from ruin…38:8. The 7 years of burying the dead, fits perfectly before the Tribulation period.
Keras.HEPH-ZIBAH AND BEU-LAH.
Isaiah 62:1 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake **I will not rest**, until the righteousness thereof **go forth as brightness**, and the salvation thereof **as a lamp that burneth**.
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THIS WILL ONLY HAPPEN IN THE 1000YR KINGDOM WHEN CHRIST AND HIS SAINTS ARE RULING.
THIS WOULD BE THE 1000YR REST.
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Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall **see thy righteousness**, and *all kings thy glory*: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
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THE GENTLES AND KINGS OUTSIDE THE KINGDOM SHALL SEE THE GLORY AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
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Isaiah 62:3 Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a **royal diadem** in the hand of thy God**.
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GODS PRECIOUS JEWELS.
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Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land **any more** be termed **Desolate**: but thou shalt be called **Hephzibah**, and** thy land Beulah**: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
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THEY WILL BE GIVEN A NEW NAME. HEPH-ZI-BAH.
AND THE LAND BEU-LAH. SO THE *SPIRITUAL* LAND OF ISRAEL LATER WILL BE CALLED BEU-LAH. NOTICE ALSO THAT THE LAND WAS **DESOLATE** AS JER.PROPHESIED IN CH.25.
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Isaiah 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
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THE DAUGHTER OF ZION WILL BE PERFECT AND UNBLEMISHED AS A VIRGIN THERE WILL BE NO CONFUSION IN THE DOCTRINE. AND THERE ALSO WILL BE TRUE WORSHIPPERS,WITH NO HIPOCRISY.
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Isaiah 62:6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
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THE WATCHMEN WILL GUIDE THEM WHEN TO GO LEFT OR RIGHT.
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Isaiah 62:7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
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CONTINUOUSLY WATCHING AND GUIDING.
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Isaiah 62:8 The LORD hath sworn by his right hand, and by the arm of his strength, Surely I will no more give thy corn to be meat for thine enemies; and the sons of the stranger shall not drink thy wine, for the which thou hast laboured:
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THEY SHALL EAT WHAT THEY HAVE SOWN,AND DRINK THEIR WINE WITH THANKSGIVING.
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Isaiah 62:9 But they that have gathered it shall eat it, and praise the LORD; and they that have brought it together shall drink it in the courts of my holiness.
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THERE WILL BE NO ROBBERS TO STEAL IT FROM THEM.
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Isaiah 62:10 Go through, go through the gates; prepare ye the way of the people; cast up, cast up the highway; gather out the stones; lift up a standard for the people.
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THE GATES TO RIGHTEOUSNESS TO BE PREPARED,AND THE WAY TO BE LAID TO LIFT UP THE STANDARD.
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Isaiah 62:11 Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
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THE LORD HATH PROPHESIED TO THE DAUGHTER OF ZION; THAT HER SALVATION AND REWARD WILL COME.
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Isaiah 62:12 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.
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THEY WILL BE REDEEMED AND GATHERED TOGETHER AT THE COMING AND NOT BEFORE.
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AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DAUGHTER OF ZION IS NOW DESOLATE. ONLY BRIERS AND THORNBUSHES ARE GROWING; AND SHE WILL BE UNTILL THE STTING UP OF THE KINGDOM.
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Wakeup, you are entitled to your point of view. But if you look at scriptures such as Isaiah 62, preferably in a modern translation, you should see that these things simply do not fit with how it will be during the Millennium.
As I say, the scriptural and logical sequence of end times is next; a terrible judgement on the Middle East – the Day of the Lord's wrath, then true Israel will do a 2nd Exodus and live again in the holy Land. They will be a light to the nations, but the rest of the world will live under a One World dictatorship. Much later Jesus Returns.Quote (keras @ Aug. 03 2013,20:40) Wakeup, you are entitled to your point of view. But if you look at scriptures such as Isaiah 62, preferably in a modern translation, you should see that these things simply do not fit with how it will be during the Millennium.
As I say, the scriptural and logical sequence of end times is next; a terrible judgement on the Middle East – the Day of the Lord's wrath, then true Israel will do a 2nd Exodus and live again in the holy Land. They will be a light to the nations, but the rest of the world will live under a One World dictatorship. Much later Jesus Returns.
Keras.Thank you for making your point clear.
Yes; we all are entitled to our own view.
But thats what we are here for; each displaying his own view, and others can agree or disagree.So you reckon that israel will have their own second exodes,because of wars,then later come back again.
But who is going to teach them the truth?I reckon that God is going to bring the dead jews
by his choice from the past, and present back to life again and settle them in the kingdom(in israel).
And the saints will teach them,and in turn;they will teach the gentiles out side the kingdom.This correspond with Ez.37.–39.
Gog will come to surround the camp,and they all will be destroyed by God.wakeup.
Hi Guys,
I say the valley of dry bones was fulfilled with the re-birth of Israel in one day – May 14, 1948.
And Keras is right that the next event will be
the destruction of the Kaaba in Mecca,
weather by a missile or a CME.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,01:26) Hi Guys, I say the valley of dry bones was fulfilled with the re-birth of Israel in one day – May 14, 1948.
And Keras is right that the next event will be
the destruction of the Kaaba in Mecca,
weather by a missile or a CME.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.What has the kaaba got to do with jerusalem?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 03 2013,23:15) Quote (keras @ Aug. 03 2013,20:40) Wakeup, you are entitled to your point of view. But if you look at scriptures such as Isaiah 62, preferably in a modern translation, you should see that these things simply do not fit with how it will be during the Millennium.
As I say, the scriptural and logical sequence of end times is next; a terrible judgement on the Middle East – the Day of the Lord's wrath, then true Israel will do a 2nd Exodus and live again in the holy Land. They will be a light to the nations, but the rest of the world will live under a One World dictatorship. Much later Jesus Returns.
Keras.Thank you for making your point clear.
Yes; we all are entitled to our own view.
But thats what we are here for; each displaying his own view, and others can agree or disagree.
Excellent, but with the final aim of coming to a consensus agreement of what will happen.So you reckon that israel will have their own second exodes,because of wars,then later come back again.
But who is going to teach them the truth?
Malachi 4:5 tells us the Lord will send Elijah before the great and terrible Day of the Lord.I reckon that God is going to bring the dead jews
by his choice from the past, and present back to life again and settle them in the kingdom(in israel).
And the saints will teach them,and in turn;they will teach the gentiles out side the kingdom.
Dead Jews? I presume you mean the ancient prophets, etc?
Call them Israelites, as they weren't all of Judah.This correspond with Ez.37.–39.
Gog will come to surround the camp,and they all will be destroyed by God.
Yes, and it is only then that the new citizens of Beulah realize how God has helped them. Ezekiel 39:22wakeup.
Ed J ; If you think the 'dry bones' is fulfilled, for sure verse 14 is not – I shall put My spirit within you….
And the state of Israel was not formed in one day. It took almost exactly 50 years, from the first Zion congress in 1898, just the final declaration was made in 1948. When you read the context of Isaiah 66, its obvious that prophecy cannot refer to the Jews, the whole chapter is talking about the second Exodus of all the Israelites.
Yes, I believe the Kaaba will be destroyed, along with the Dome of the Rock and virtually all of the ME. Isaiah 17:1Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,01:51) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,01:26) Hi Guys, I say the valley of dry bones was fulfilled with the re-birth of Israel in one day – May 14, 1948.
And Keras is right that the next event will be
the destruction of the Kaaba in Mecca,
weather by a missile or a CME.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.What has the kaaba got to do with jerusalem?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,It is the muslim's holy city like
Jerusalem is the “Holy City” of the Jews.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (keras @ Aug. 04 2013,08:33) Ed J ; If you think the 'dry bones' is fulfilled, for sure verse 14 is not – I shall put My spirit within you….
And the state of Israel was not formed in one day. It took almost exactly 50 years, from the first Zion congress in 1898, just the final declaration was made in 1948. When you read the context of Isaiah 66, its obvious that prophecy cannot refer to the Jews, the whole chapter is talking about the second Exodus of all the Israelites.
Yes, I believe the Kaaba will be destroyed, along with the Dome of the Rock and virtually all of the ME. Isaiah 17:1
Hi Keras,Ezekiel 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you(Israel), and ye shall live, and I shall
place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD
have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.Many Christians, in whom God's spirit resides in, reside in the land of Israel.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (keras @ Aug. 04 2013,08:33) Yes, I believe the Kaaba will be destroyed, along with the Dome of the Rock and virtually all of the ME. Isaiah 17:1
Hi Keras,Yes I know, but Wakeup does not believe this.
He's got a fictitious futuristic enemy according to
his private interpretation of Prophecy; ignoring history.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,09:09) Quote (keras @ Aug. 04 2013,08:33) Yes, I believe the Kaaba will be destroyed, along with the Dome of the Rock and virtually all of the ME. Isaiah 17:1
Hi Keras,Yes I know, but Wakeup does not believe this.
He's got a fictitious futuristic enemy according to
his private interpretation of Prophecy; ignoring history.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Where is the kaaba mentioned in scripture?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,11:00) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,09:09) Quote (keras @ Aug. 04 2013,08:33) Yes, I believe the Kaaba will be destroyed, along with the Dome of the Rock and virtually all of the ME. Isaiah 17:1
Hi Keras,Yes I know, but Wakeup does not believe this.
He's got a fictitious futuristic enemy according to
his private interpretation of Prophecy; ignoring history.God bless
Ed J
EdJ.Where is the kaaba mentioned in scripture?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,The kaaba is satans false copy of Rev.21:16. The people
are wearing white linen and they say “GOD” resides there.
You fail to realize who the enemy really is; islam is antichrist.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgquote- Many Christians, in whom God's spirit resides, live in Israel. quote Ed J
Sadly for them Ezekiel 21:4 says: I intend to make away with the righteous and wicked alike…
Anyway there is no way the current State of Israel, let alone the surrounding nations, [all part of the holy Land] are the people God wants to be there as His holy people.Psalm 83 tells us exactly who the enemies are that will attack Israel and what God will do to them. Micah 4:11-12
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,12:45) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 04 2013,11:00) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,09:09) Quote (keras @ Aug. 04 2013,08:33) Yes, I believe the Kaaba will be destroyed, along with the Dome of the Rock and virtually all of the ME. Isaiah 17:1
Hi Keras,Yes I know, but Wakeup does not believe this.
He's got a fictitious futuristic enemy according to
his private interpretation of Prophecy; ignoring history.God bless
Ed J
EdJ.Where is the kaaba mentioned in scripture?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,The kaaba is satans false copy of Rev.21:16. The people
are wearing white linen and they say “GOD” resides there.
You fail to realize who the enemy really is; islam is antichrist.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.Meccah is muslems holy city,and the kaabla is in meccah.
But that has nothing to do with israel.
Grasping straw wont help you out of the hole you have placed yourself in.wakeup.
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