Israel will be as the garden of eden

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  • #377354
    Wakeup
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    Quote (journey42 @ April 11 2014,15:23)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2014,14:59)
    Hi WU,
    Not much to be jealous about as far as I can see.


    Wakeup

    I think we should just let him be from now on.
    He's bringing up posts for discussion, but he doesn't want anyone's input, just his own.
    So lets just let him be, and we go in peace.


    J42,

    This is true;just anything to talk about.

    Greetings to you.

    wakeup.

    #379158
    NickHassan
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    Hi,
    The promises to the Jews in Ez 36 are all of earthly prosperity and joy but they are given the Spirit of eternal life as well

    #379419
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,09:23)
    Hi,
    The promises to the Jews in Ez 36 are all of earthly prosperity and joy but they are given the Spirit of eternal life as well


    Nick.

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    The promises to the Jews in Ez 36 are all of earthly prosperity and joy but they are given the Spirit of eternal life as well

    Not untill the second resurrection.

    wakeup.

    #379421
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Ez 36
    24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

    25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    This speaks of the living not the dead.

    #379428
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2014,20:13)
    Hi WU,
    Ez 36
    24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

    25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    This speaks of the living not the dead.


    Nick.

    Speaking of the jews; the remnant that will be brought back to their own land. The land as the garden of eden.
    The lion will eat straw.
    The resurrected saints will take charge.
    The saints will be as the angels are to us today.

    wakeup.

    #379430
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    Yes they will be ALIVE

    #379514
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2014,20:45)
    Hi WU,
    Yes they will be ALIVE


    Nick.

    HHmmm that makes sense,they can not be dead.
    You have discovered.

    wakeup.

    #379794
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    So not resurrected.
    Men only die once[heb 9]

    #379847
    journey42
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,06:14)
    Hi WU,
    So not resurrected.
    Men only die once[heb 9]


    Hebrew 9 what?

    You are supposed to be warning your brothers and can not even give a scripture properly for them to look up.
    What about the babes in Christ?

    Lucky I know the scriptures.  I'll show them exactly where it is.
    Hebrews 9:27   And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    Men only die once….That's the way it is supposed to go.  We get born, then we die.  That's the norm every one expects.
    But do you know that some will not even see death once?
    Do you know that some will die twice in their flesh? but be resurrected to spirit after the thousand years?
    Do you know that some will die once in their flesh, and die again in the lake of fire.

    Do you know that the Dead Israelites who are chosen according to the election, will be raised in their flesh, live long peaceful lives to the age of 100 and then die again, because they are still FLESH.  

    Do you know that Job is one of them, who will see God in his flesh.  Who is amongst the remnant chosen to be brought into the kingdom?  Not raised to spirit but FLESH.

    Job 19:26   And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

    #379849
    NickHassan
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    Hi J42,
    This verse has been given 4 times in the last week.
    Were you not paying attention?

    heb 9
    27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    The second death after the final judgement is another matter

    rev 20
    13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    #379856
    journey42
    Participant

    Nick

    I don't read every post.  I tried to follow this one, but your comment wasn't clear.

    So what are you saying?  or trying to say?

    Those scriptures in rev 20 are the 2nd death.  That is different from what wakeup is speaking about.  
    So now I have to guess what angle you are coming from, and PAY ATTENTION?

    Now I am guessing.  You gave that scripture to wakeup because the scriptures say man is only appointed to die once in his life.  You are having a problem with this because the chosen Jews who will be brought into the kingdom have already died once, and then they will die again.  So this means they die twice and it is contrary to scripture?  Am I right?

    #379857
    NickHassan
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    Hi J42,
    Right

    #379869
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,12:56)
    Hi J42,
    Right


    Right.
    So it means you do not understand the scripture?

    Every one knows it is appointed to die once. We are born, we live our life, and we die. This the world knows. This can't be refuted.
    but…the world don't know that there is a 2nd death. That they will die twice. Die AGAIN, the second time at judgement, ……because they don't know the scriptures, and think it all fairytales.

    The world don't know that some will not even see death. (Those alive at the coming)
    And the world don't know about the Jews being brought back in the flesh.
    Heck, the christian world don't even know it, despite all the evidence, they are still confused and can't see it….and that one scripture you are talking about, is your stumbling block, because you can't see the whole plan and where your scripture that you misunderstand fits in. So it stumps you. But some of are here to explain, and expand.
    So lets hope that this doesn't offend you?

    #379871
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    We are not talking of the second death of scripture-the Lake of fire.
    You are talking about a SECOND NATURAL DEATH during the millenium

    #379873
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,14:04)
    Hi J42,
    We are not talking of the second death of scripture-the Lake of fire.
    You are talking about a SECOND NATURAL DEATH during the millenium


    Nick

    Yes. And your scripture you gave, is not talking about the 2nd death. So you were off topic.

    Maybe instead of attacking 50 posts in one minute, you should use the time to put some real thinking into it.
    Stop and smell the roses.
    The enemy is keeping you too occupied attacking, so you have no time to seek.

    #379875
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Heb 9.27 is not nullified by your ideas of a second natural death

    #379877
    journey42
    Participant

    Nick

    If you feel so strong, then take me to the hot seat then.

    #379880
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Not my style.
    Lets continue talking

    #379882
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    You say
    “And the world don't know about the Jews being brought back in the flesh.
    Heck, the christian world don't even know it, despite all the evidence, they are still confused and can't see it….and that one scripture you are talking about, is your stumbling block, because you can't see the whole plan and where your scripture that you misunderstand fits in.”

    Not a stumbling block but truth you must not ignore
    You must find a way of aligning Heb 9.27 with your ideas

    #379887
    journey42
    Participant

    Hebrews 9:27   And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    Read my answer a few posts up.  I already answered you.

    Is the Jews being brought back to life an everyday thing?
    Isaiah 66:8   Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

    Who has head such a thing?
    I'll tell you who, only those who have heard and have been seeking. Not the world, and the christian world is blind to this also.

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