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TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH.
Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion.
religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them.Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians.
But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity.
Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Do you know that one of the apostles,is a palestinian? Read mathew 10:2–4.(simon the canaanite).
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life.
This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.When you see israel attacked by the kings of the north,this will be the time of great troubles.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Why didn't you put this thread in the “Skeptics” section.
You should PM T8 and ask him to move it for you.
If you don't know how, I'll ask him for you.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Hi Wakeup,
I first started using computers and the Internet late in 2009, and I've
become very proficient since then, as I have always been a fast learner.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,14:29) Hi Wakeup, I first started using computers and the Internet late in 2009, and I've
become very proficient since then, as I have always been a fast learner.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
Thank you again EdJ.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 18 2012,10:10) TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH. Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion.
religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them.Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians.
But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity.
Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Do you know that one of the apostles,is a palestinian? Read mathew 10:2–4.(simon the canaanite).
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life.
This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.When you see israel attacked by the kings of the north,this will be the time of great troubles.
wakeup.
I hope you are being serious because if you are then take this serious:(1) And the angels called to him as he stood praying in the sanctuary: Allah giveth thee glad tidings of (a son whose name is) John, (who cometh) to confirm a Word from Allah lordly, chaste, a prophet of the righteous.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #39)(2) (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)Did you not know that Muslims have always known Jesus to be the Word of God and a Spirit that proceeded from HIM?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 22 2012,02:35) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 18 2012,10:10) TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH. Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion.
religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them.Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians.
But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity.
Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Do you know that one of the apostles,is a palestinian? Read mathew 10:2–4.(simon the canaanite).
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life.
This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.When you see israel attacked by the kings of the north,this will be the time of great troubles.
wakeup.
I hope you are being serious because if you are then take this serious:(1) And the angels called to him as he stood praying in the sanctuary: Allah giveth thee glad tidings of (a son whose name is) John, (who cometh) to confirm a Word from Allah lordly, chaste, a prophet of the righteous.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #39)(2) (And remember) when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, illustrious in the world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (unto Allah).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)Did you not know that Muslims have always known Jesus to be the Word of God and a Spirit that proceeded from HIM?
did you know that Islam is a deceitfull ideal and religion
?this is why it only attracts ignorant of truth people ,
but can not be atractive to true righteous Christians,
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 18 2012,10:10) TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH. Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion.
religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them.Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians.
But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity.
Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Do you know that one of the apostles,is a palestinian? Read mathew 10:2–4.(simon the canaanite).
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life.
This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.When you see israel attacked by the kings of the north,this will be the time of great troubles.
wakeup.
Don't you base your whole idea on God based upon the violence of men killing an innocent man?Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 21 2012,15:13) Quote (2besee @ Oct. 20 2012,19:01) Good post wakeup.
Why, is it a good post?It is a good post. Let me look at it:
Quote TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH. Moved by the Spirit.
Quote Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.Yes, this is prophecy fulfilled. And this good news of the coming Kingdom will be preached to all of the Nations, and then the end will come.
Even for the Muslims in other Nations who have not had the truth preached to them, Jesus found a way through dreams and visions.
Quote I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion. They are.
Quote religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them. The truth is within.
Quote Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians. But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.So well said.
The Son is the truth, every word which comes out of God's mouth is truth.Quote Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this. As the Bible says.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.More than Mohammad. Only Jesus has the words to life. Not man.
Quote This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity. yes, exactly.
Quote Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Amen.
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)And we follow in His footsteps. What to you are walking in Jesus' footsteps?
Quote Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life. Not mans word or mans interpretation of it. As we know, anyone can appear as if an Angel of light and deceive many.
Quote This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.This is the oneness.
But today is division.Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 21 2012,13:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 18 2012,10:10) TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH. Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion.
religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them.Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians.
But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity.
Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Do you know that one of the apostles,is a palestinian? Read mathew 10:2–4.(simon the canaanite).
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life.
This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.When you see israel attacked by the kings of the north,this will be the time of great troubles.
wakeup.
Don't you base your whole idea on God based upon the violence of men killing an innocent man?
Bodhitharta.This is the whole point.
By the ONE PERFECT SACRIFICE,Gods own son.
The door to God is now,the righteous one is that door; anyone can come through that door.
Jews or gentiles. And that door is that person that followed his father unto death.God loves us first,we dont love God first.
He has given us proof, that God loves us first, by giving his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO BE CRUCIFIED,for us.So that now through him we can have eternal life.
Any one that comes to him and FOLLOW his COMMANDMENTS,will be resurrected, like he was resurrected by his father,so we also will be; Jesus is the first FRUIT.The rest will also follow,resurrected just like him.
So Jesus have shown us the way,and all we have to do is follow that way,not some other man made way.He is coming back very soon to collect them, that is his, and this will be the first resurrection.
What will happen to the christians that did not make it in the first resurrection?
Well they have to wait for the 2nd resurrection.What will happen to all non christians at the coming?
They have a chance in the second resurection.Not only them,but ALL that died in the past also.
The second resurrection will happen 1000yrs after the coming, because in the thousand yrs Jesus, and the resurrected saints will rule over the jews that have been brought back in the flesh,by election;by Gods choice.They are called the remnant of israel.
They will be brought back in israel,and there will be peace in that kingdom,it will be as paradise to them.
The lion will eat straw,notears,no sorrow,no pain.
They will all live up to a100yrs old.And the resurrected saints will teach them,and they in turn will teach the christians, that did not make it in the first resurrection,and also all the gentiles.
Satan will not be around,for he will be in prison for a1000yrs.
This is the time when knowledge will cover the earth, as the sea cover the earth.But there will be still many that dont want to follow.God will separate them,the sheeps and the goats.HOW?
by letting loose satan from his prison,and he will go around the world to bring them all to one place to surround the kingdom.
For all the gold thats in there,for they are very rich in the kingdom.This is the bait God uses to bring him there.
This is called gog and magog.
And fire from God will devour them all. Satan is now dead.Now the second resurrection will begin.
All the dead will be resurrected to be judged by the books,by their works.Now all the bad ones are gone; But the earth is still full of pollutions; the temples the pyramids,all that man has build on the earth and under the earth needs to be cleaned up.
Now is the melting of the earth,and a new earth created.
And God himself will come down and dwell amonst us.
This prophcy is now fulfilled; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.I hope that you will bother to read it all,for this is a great treasure.
wakeup.
Just a correction to what Jesus said:
The Day of the Lord and the return of Jesus Christ are the same day. On that day, the wicked will be ashes. Jesus said that on that day, he will tell those on his right to come with him to the ETERNAL kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world.
The Eternal Kingdom:
2Pet 1:11:
“For so an entrance shall be ministered to you abundantly into the EVERLASTING KINGDOM of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.Daniel 2:44:
“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but IT WILL ITSELF ENDURE FOREVER.Daniel 7:18
“But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it FOREVER — YES, FOR EVER AND EVER.”Daniel 7:27
“Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an EVERLASTING KINGDOM, and all rulers will worship and obey him.'”Isaiah 9:7
“Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness FROM THAT TIME ON AND FOREVER. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.”Revelation 11:15
“The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and HE WILL REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER.”Matthew 25:31-34
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.”
Which kingdom was prepared from the foundation of the world?.. The answer is – The Eternal Kingdom.
People base their understanding of a temporary millennium lasting a thousand years on a part of scripture which is symbolically written in most parts, without the keys, which Jesus has (in scripture).
Satan the Devil has been limited in power for thousands of years now, which is the only way the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God could be taken around the world, free of Satan's influence to deceive the whole world.
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.So Satan in Revelation, just before the coming of Jesus, will be, as it says, let loose from his “prison” one LAST TIME.
And when the thousand years are ended (thousand meaning a very long time – the thousands of years in which the nations were not being deceived), then Satan will be loosed from his prison and will come out to DECEIVE the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; THEIR NUMBER IS LIKE THE SAND OF THE SEA (Now, don't you think this fits better with today? We are a world of people – ready to fight – our numbers are huge – as huge as the figurative sand of the sea – never before has the world been so ready to BATTLE.).
Jesus came and “locked up Satan” (symbolically speaking) possibly at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD (Rev 19:11) in such a way that he has been limited in power for the past “thousands” of years, and that he is now – or soon will be – let lose again, to try and deceive the world one LAST TIME, and that at the return of Jesus again (Rev 20:7 onwards) all badness will be destroyed once and for all and it will be the end of this world as we know it and the beginning of the new –
Just because Satan has been limited in power does not mean that evil ceases to exist, evil will continue until the end.
People have been persecuted from the beginning and still are till this day in many countries, HOWEVER, when Satan is let loose from his “symbolic prison” toward the end, he will GATHER people, from all over the world, to bring them to the great battle of Armageddon, he will influence the mind of LEADERS, and media etc, who will then influence the mind of the PEOPLE.
And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE and sulphur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Then I saw a great WHITE THRONE and him who sat upon it; from his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and BOOKS WERE OPENED. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were JUDGED by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had DONE.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of FIRE this is the SECOND DEATH, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Now look at the match in Matthew 25:
“When the Son of man comes in his GLORY, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his GLORIOUS THRONE.
Before him will be gathered ALL THE NATIONS, and he will SEPARATE THEM one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left.
Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, INHERIT THE KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
Then he will say to those at his left hand, `Depart from me, you cursed, into the ETERNAL FIRE prepared for the DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
Revelations 21 – this is the new heaven and the new earth…………
This, BTW, is the understanding of most of the church, with the exception of some smaller groups and denominations. God's Kingdom will be final and will be eternal, just as his return will not be in SECRET as some people say. EVERY EYE WILL SEE THE COMING OF THE SON OF GOD.
Maranatha, come Lord Jesus.
Quote (2besee @ Oct. 22 2012,21:03) In other words – there is no mention at all of a 'future temporary kingdom'.
2Beesee.I can see that you have adopted the teachings of most of the churches.
There will be a 1000 year kingdom where christ and his saints will REIGN.
1cor.15:25. And he must reign till he hath put all enemies under his feet.(untill *ALL*,jews and gentiles).28. And when all things shall be subdued unto him,then shall the son also HIMSELF be SUBJECT unto him that put all things under him,that God may be all in all.(after the 1000yrs are finished,Jesus also will be under God.).
He will not be subject to God at the coming; for God will not come down to earth, untill all the dead of the past also will be judged at the white throne judgement.
The first resurrection we are judged by how faithful we are in following Christ.
The white throne judgement is done by the books. 2judgements; 2resurrections.This only will happen at the 2nd resurrection.
And the earth must be melted first and a new earth,created.The battle of HARMAGEDDON will be held in MEGIDO: its not the same as the battle of GOG and magog.
The battle of GOG will be in israel,in the valley of HAMONGOG.(Ez.39:11. 15.).The battle of HARMAGEDDON will be in israel also, but they will be burried in the valley of HINNOM.(Jer.19:6. 11.).or TOPHET.
If satan is in prison now for 1000years then he is not guilty of all the wars,even the 1st and 2nd world war.he is innocent.
Satan has managed 7 world empires; today is his 7th empire,so how can he be in prison? And his 8th empire is coming soon.Who created islam in the year 630ad? satan would be in prison then?
2Cor.11:13.14.
satan is transformed into an angel of light,and his MINISTERS ALSO BE TRANSFORMED INTO MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS: The 2000yrs of preaching has been done by these his ministers.Therefore is the land DESOLATE TO THIS DAY.(jer.25:38.).
There are many grey areas in that doctrine; they will never be able to fit isiah 11:6–12. 65:19–25. IN THE PICTURE.
For they will be all still flesh,and still die.How come?In the resurrection we all will be spirit like the angels,not flesh,so what are all these fleshly creatures doing in the kingdom? and still die?
At the coming rev19:20. the beast will be cast in the fire,and the false prophet; WHERE IS SATAN? why is he not cast in the fire?
Because he is now put in prison for a 1000yrs and after the 1000yrs he will be let loose, for the battle of Gog and Magog.
Can not mixed harmageddon and Gog and magog.
MEGIDDO is north of jerusalem and the valley of HAMON GOG, is east of jerusalem.I know how they all work,they will force the square pegs into the round holes,and deceitfully patch up the cracks,and put glossy paint over,to cover the errors.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 22 2012,09:36) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 21 2012,13:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 18 2012,10:10) TO THE MUSLEMS SEEKING THE TRUTH. Prophesy:
Jesus prophesied,that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world;–For a witness.
And this has come true.Preached to you guys to.I know there are many muslems in the world that are seeking the truth;seeking God,not religion.
religion is a man thing; man always seek for something to worship,and they are led by men to a religion that suits them.Just pic one that make you feel good,or most of them just follow traditions;follow their parents religion,same with the Christians.
But what is truth? Everything that comes out of the mouth of God is truth. Now what comes out of the mouth of God?
His word comes out of Gods mouth.Who,or what is his word? God said that everything is made by his word,He spoke and it is done. Let there be light; and there was light,even you muslems know this.
You need to read the Bible also if you are truly seeking.
In John 1:1 it says; In the beginning was the word,and the word was with God and the word was God.This is so confusing to the christians,they just can not put their finger on it.So they invented the doctrine of the trinity.
Back to the word now:
Verse 2. the same was in the beginning with God: (yes, this make sense; his word is always with him,inside him).Verse3. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.(all is made by the word).
verse14. And the word was MADE flesh,AND DWELT AMONG US. Jesus was that man, made of flesh;he is THE WORD OF GOD,in the flesh.
The word of God came down to earth to teach men the truth about God,he is the light of the world.(spiritual light)No man can come to God but by his word; not some other prophets word. Jesus is the only door to come to God,there is no back door.
Do you know that one of the apostles,is a palestinian? Read mathew 10:2–4.(simon the canaanite).
Jesus said to know him we must eat his flesh,and drink his blood. He is spirit and if we take in the scriptures we are eating his flesh(the word),seeking the scriptures and digest it.
The scripture,is the word of God(Jesus)Gods word only can lead to eternal life; there is no other word that can give eternal life.
This is just a little something for you guys to ponder on.
Religion only causes wars,in God there is peace.
In God we are all brothers,and sisters,all bound by the one spirit.When you see israel attacked by the kings of the north,this will be the time of great troubles.
wakeup.
Don't you base your whole idea on God based upon the violence of men killing an innocent man?
Bodhitharta.This is the whole point.
By the ONE PERFECT SACRIFICE,Gods own son.
The door to God is now,the righteous one is that door; anyone can come through that door.
Jews or gentiles. And that door is that person that followed his father unto death.God loves us first,we dont love God first.
He has given us proof, that God loves us first, by giving his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO BE CRUCIFIED,for us.So that now through him we can have eternal life.
Any one that comes to him and FOLLOW his COMMANDMENTS,will be resurrected, like he was resurrected by his father,so we also will be; Jesus is the first FRUIT.The rest will also follow,resurrected just like him.
So Jesus have shown us the way,and all we have to do is follow that way,not some other man made way.He is coming back very soon to collect them, that is his, and this will be the first resurrection.
What will happen to the christians that did not make it in the first resurrection?
Well they have to wait for the 2nd resurrection.What will happen to all non christians at the coming?
They have a chance in the second resurection.Not only them,but ALL that died in the past also.
The second resurrection will happen 1000yrs after the coming, because in the thousand yrs Jesus, and the resurrected saints will rule over the jews that have been brought back in the flesh,by election;by Gods choice.They are called the remnant of israel.
They will be brought back in israel,and there will be peace in that kingdom,it will be as paradise to them.
The lion will eat straw,notears,no sorrow,no pain.
They will all live up to a100yrs old.And the resurrected saints will teach them,and they in turn will teach the christians, that did not make it in the first resurrection,and also all the gentiles.
Satan will not be around,for he will be in prison for a1000yrs.
This is the time when knowledge will cover the earth, as the sea cover the earth.But there will be still many that dont want to follow.God will separate them,the sheeps and the goats.HOW?
by letting loose satan from his prison,and he will go around the world to bring them all to one place to surround the kingdom.
For all the gold thats in there,for they are very rich in the kingdom.This is the bait God uses to bring him there.
This is called gog and magog.
And fire from God will devour them all. Satan is now dead.Now the second resurrection will begin.
All the dead will be resurrected to be judged by the books,by their works.Now all the bad ones are gone; But the earth is still full of pollutions; the temples the pyramids,all that man has build on the earth and under the earth needs to be cleaned up.
Now is the melting of the earth,and a new earth created.
And God himself will come down and dwell amonst us.
This prophcy is now fulfilled; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.I hope that you will bother to read it all,for this is a great treasure.
wakeup.
The main issue here is you are not understanding Islam. Islam is Submission to God and knowing the ONLY TRUE GOD is ETERNAL LIFE. Jesus is Christ but the One who sent Jesus gives mercy to whom He pleases.Hi BD,
That is incorrect; 'islam' is submission to the teachings of 'the false prophet'(Muhammad).
יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)Hi Wakeup,
You are claiming that people will get a second chance. This is not true.
The hour of salvation is when? NOW.
You are taking parts of the Old Testament and adding them to the chapter of Revelation 20, which are not there, parts of the Old Testament that Jesus or the Apostles never mentioned.
Rather than go through your points one by one at the moment, I would like you and anyone else who is interested to listen to this Audio Sermon, which is EXCELLENT,
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
Thank you.
Quote (2besee @ Oct. 23 2012,19:08) Hi Wakeup, You are claiming that people will get a second chance. This is not true.
The hour of salvation is when? NOW.
You are taking parts of the Old Testament and adding them to the chapter of Revelation 20, which are not there, parts of the Old Testament that Jesus or the Apostles never mentioned.
Rather than go through your points one by one at the moment, I would like you and anyone else who is interested to listen to this Audio Sermon, which is EXCELLENT,
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
Thank you.
Hi Beesee.Are you really saying that there is only one resurrection?
wakeup.
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