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- February 1, 2008 at 10:33 pm#180894NickHassanParticipant
Hi Mrs,
If they know him as a great prophet who speaks the words of God then will they listen to him?He said he was the only way to the Father and we must believe in him as well as in God. He said we must be born again of water and the Spirit and that we must consecrate ourselves to the truth of His Word.
Is it possible to do these things and remain faithful to Islam?
February 2, 2008 at 5:42 pm#180895seek and you will findParticipantNick Is it possible to believe in two different religions? Does Christianity and Islam have anything in common?
Peace and Love Mrs.
February 2, 2008 at 7:59 pm#180896942767ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 02 2008,07:25) Hi,
Cato has brought up the faith of Islam.
He said
” Remember the God of Islam is the same God for Christian and Jews and while they don't consider Jesus the son of God they do view him as a great prophet. All feature the God of Abraham and Moses. My point here being we should be wary at throwing stones at others beliefs especially when we do not know or understand them. This is not saying we accept those beliefs ourself or stop trying to convince others for their own sakes of what we believe to be the truth, but we should respect other travelers on the path to truth.”Do others agree we share the same God if our sacred writings differ?
We do not say we are on a path to truth but are taught by truth-Jesus Christ.
For our faith rests on belief both in God and in the Son of God.
Hi Nick:My God says that He has given His only Begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life, and the Koran states: that God does not have any sons. Therefore, is the God of Islam and our God the same God?
February 2, 2008 at 8:17 pm#180897NickHassanParticipantHi 94,
God does not speak with a forked tongue.February 2, 2008 at 8:31 pm#180898942767ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2008,07:17) Hi 94,
God does not speak with a forked tongue.
So, what does that have to do with my statement?The following is what my God states:
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither * * cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
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But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.This is what my God has said. The Koran states: that God does not have any sons. So, is the God of Islam the same God or not? What do you say?
February 2, 2008 at 8:39 pm#180899NickHassanParticipantHi 94,
God does not speak of one truth to one group and an opposing 'truth' to another.February 2, 2008 at 8:57 pm#180900942767ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2008,07:39) Hi 94,
God does not speak of one truth to one group and an opposing 'truth' to another.
Yes, Nick I know, and therefore, God has not spoken to people through the Koran. The Bible is the Word of God. Any other book whether it is the “Koran” or “the Book of Mormon” or any other so called “sacred book” is not from God.It is true that many Muslims are seeking for the truth. But there is only one truth, and if it is not of this truth, then it is a lie.
It is our commision to and preach the gospel to whomever will hear and that is what I am going to do.
There are many Muslims and Jews that are coming to God through Jesus, God's Son and His Christ in these last days. There are two or three Jews and at least one Muslim, of whom I have knowledge, who are now Christians, and have televsion ministries.
God Bless
February 3, 2008 at 12:02 am#180901seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2008,07:39) Hi 94,
God does not speak of one truth to one group and an opposing 'truth' to another.
Nick You seem to stick up for the Muslim Faith and I like to know why? I do not belief that they have the truth al all. They use the Koran and have you ever read what they say?
The Baptist Pastor read some of it to us, and it is not the truth let me tell you. The word of God is there for all to learn and to believe, but it is the way you put it makes it sound like you think that the Koran is also the word of God, which it is not.Peace and Love Mrs.
February 3, 2008 at 12:19 am#180902NickHassanParticipantHi Mrs,
Where have I said what you claim?February 3, 2008 at 5:31 am#180903CatoParticipantQuote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 03 2008,11:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2008,07:39) Hi 94,
God does not speak of one truth to one group and an opposing 'truth' to another.
Nick You seem to stick up for the Muslim Faith and I like to know why? I do not belief that they have the truth al all. They use the Koran and have you ever read what they say?
The Baptist Pastor read some of it to us, and it is not the truth let me tell you. The word of God is there for all to learn and to believe, but it is the way you put it makes it sound like you think that the Koran is also the word of God, which it is not.Peace and Love Mrs.
Nick brought up a valid question, that is all, and has given all of you the opportunity to respond to an open question about two faiths that at least publically profess the same God, the God of Abraham and Moses. I don't see how you can view that as an endorsement of Islam. I see nothing in any of his statements that even remotely suggest this. Many of you refute that they indeed share the same God, which may have been Nick's purpose all along. For it came in response to a thread where people were throwing Islam around like it equated to Al Qaeda and I tried to separate people's perceptions of general Islam with extremist Islam. People would hate it if they generalized Christianity by the J Witnesses wouldn't they? This is not to say I support the belief, for I do not, but lets get real and not villify a large portion of planet unfairly. Now you turn around and accuse Nick of all people on being pro-Islam, it is entirely unfair. It is that kind of mentality that started the Inquistion.February 3, 2008 at 5:36 am#180904davidParticipantQuote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 03 2008,11:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2008,07:39) Hi 94,
God does not speak of one truth to one group and an opposing 'truth' to another.
Nick You seem to stick up for the Muslim Faith and I like to know why? I do not belief that they have the truth al all. They use the Koran and have you ever read what they say?
The Baptist Pastor read some of it to us, and it is not the truth let me tell you. The word of God is there for all to learn and to believe, but it is the way you put it makes it sound like you think that the Koran is also the word of God, which it is not.Peace and Love Mrs.
Seek,
Nick wasn't saying that at all. I think you misunderstood him. He was saying that the Creator is not a God of confusion. He doesn't say one thing to one group and an opposing, opposite thing to another group. Hence, not all groups can represent the truth.
If one person says that God burns people and another says that he doesn't, one of them is wrong. They may both believe they are right, but they cannot be.February 4, 2008 at 1:08 am#180905ProclaimerParticipantThe biggest difference between the Bible and the Koran in my opinion is that the biblical writers say that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah and the Koran says that he isn't the son of God and that God doesn't have sons.
Jesus said that he was the Way the Truth and the Life.
The Koran teaches that Jesus is a prophet and Mohamed is a prophet.But look at what is taught in 1John:
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.February 4, 2008 at 1:38 am#180890942767ParticipantThe following book is on he market, and would probably be good book to read for all Christians:
I copied this from Amazon.com
Quote Islam: What the West Needs to Know – An examination of Islam, Violence, and the Fate of the Non-Muslim World. February 4, 2008 at 3:55 am#180891seek and you will findParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2008,12:08) The biggest difference between the Bible and the Koran in my opinion is that the biblical writers say that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah and the Koran says that he isn't the son of God and that God doesn't have sons. Jesus said that he was the Way the Truth and the Life.
The Koran teaches that Jesus is a prophet and Mohamed is a prophet.But look at what is taught in 1John:
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
We all should listen to what John has to say.July 24, 2008 at 6:24 am#180906NickHassanParticipant4vac
July 24, 2008 at 6:33 am#180907IreneParticipantNick What do you mean by 4vac? Irene
July 24, 2008 at 6:57 am#180908NickHassanParticipantFor Veritas ad Caritas
January 30, 2009 at 10:16 pm#181121PhoenixParticipantIsnt John the same man that said that Jesus was also God? So which is it? the Son or the Father?
May 8, 2009 at 6:33 am#180909NickHassanParticipantFor BD
May 8, 2009 at 7:01 am#180910bodhithartaParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 04 2008,12:08) The biggest difference between the Bible and the Koran in my opinion is that the biblical writers say that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah and the Koran says that he isn't the son of God and that God doesn't have sons. Jesus said that he was the Way the Truth and the Life.
The Koran teaches that Jesus is a prophet and Mohamed is a prophet.But look at what is taught in 1John:
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son.1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
The Quran teach that Jesus is the Messiah003.045
Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;004.172
The Messiah does by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His service and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.005.017
In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every – one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things.” - AuthorPosts
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