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- May 5, 2015 at 7:04 am#796378NickHassanParticipant
Hi BD,
Can you not see that your writings are human , carnal, reactionary and based in jealousy and bitterness?
The word of our God are elegant, beautifully crafted and of eternal value.
May 5, 2015 at 8:59 am#796382bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
Can you not see that your writings are human , carnal, reactionary and based in jealousy and bitterness?
The word of our God are elegant, beautifully crafted and of eternal value.
You mean you would like it to be olde english the King James version? You do realize the original Quran is written in Arabic and it is recited as the most beautiful song
May 5, 2015 at 9:01 am#796384NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Some human creations are of value.
But the word of God is of beauty and of eternal peace and harmony.
May 5, 2015 at 9:11 am#796385bodhithartaParticipantBut the word of God is of beauty and of eternal peace and harmony.
That’s why the video is beautiful for those who value the word of God anyone should be able to admit the recitation of The Quran is beautiful
May 5, 2015 at 9:13 am#796386bodhithartaParticipantMay 5, 2015 at 9:55 am#796397NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Poetry has value.
The word of God is as silver purified 7 times.
Your words are of man
May 5, 2015 at 9:56 am#796399NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The fire was prepared for the devil and his angels
Resist him and he will flee from you.
May 5, 2015 at 10:15 am#796401NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The scriptures are the wisdom of God.
If you were of God you would seek the wisdom to understand the riddles.
You would not try to judge the word.
May 6, 2015 at 9:50 am#796507bodhithartaParticipantMay 6, 2015 at 10:26 am#796513Ed JParticipantWomen are equal to men
and
men are at a higher levelWHAT CONFUSION!
Babylon = quranZerubbabel means coming out of confusion…
”This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might,
nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts” (Zech 4:6-7)May 6, 2015 at 5:18 pm#796551ProclaimerParticipantSee Bod, you are not a Believer. You use to complain why you were considered a Skeptic and not a Believer here. But all you do here is doubt the Bible, the faith, and the Father and Son. This is why you are a Skeptic. You are skeptical after all.
May 6, 2015 at 6:19 pm#796556Ed JParticipantHi T8,
He certainly is not a believer in Christ. He says, oh yes I’m a believer in Christ.
But how can he be a believer in Christ if he doesn’t believe what he said?
Jesus words concerning the prince of this world (Lucifer) was clear.“the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me” (John 14:30)
Well Lucifer indeed came and as Jesus correctly stated has nothing in him.
The fallen Angel Lucifer came to Muhammad and islam has nothing in Christ!____________
Your brother
in Christ
Ed JMay 6, 2015 at 8:45 pm#796559ProclaimerParticipantBod, the Catholic Faith is the Trinity Doctrine. Not all hold to that doctrine. And even of those who supposedly do, most do not understand it and hardly think about it. But those who teach it are false teachers or in the least, teaching falsely.
What all false religions do is change the foundation, the gospel, and even the times so that men cannot tell the season they are in.
The Roman Catholic Church changed the times to the Gregorian Calendar and away from the feasts, changed the Sabbath for Sunday (the Sun God day) and gave us Easter and Christmas. They also preach a different foundation other than the foundation that Jesus built his Church upon. In short they became their own Church of which we reject.
What Islam did was similar. Instead of the Sun God, they possibly have the Noon God, and we also have a different foundation to the one that Christ proclaimed he would build his Church upon.
We reject all forms of false religion and question all things to lessen our chances of being deceived in this evil world.
Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, and many are isms and schisms we reject. We do not want to participate in Babylon in any way if we can help it.
May 7, 2015 at 4:20 am#796569bodhithartaParticipantIslam is not an ism and Christianity is a Vast array of beliefs even you have no idea of it’s original teachings because if you did there would be no dispute and you would be able to easily prove these teachings to others but Islam is Clear and is in total harmony with a straight line from Judaism through Christianity to Islam where a person learns there is no trinity straight out, Jesus is not God straight out, God has no partners straight out, Jesus was a Spirit that proceeded from God and a Word from Him straight out. Many of those simple facts have taken some Christians their entire lives to comprehend and some or better yet most still believe those incorrect teachings.
As far as God not having a son and the crucifixion 2 points: The bible itself differs on the facts even time and day but the Quran does report a cricifixion took place and the Quran does note the massive usage of the term “son” that the Jews and the Christians use and points out that you both feel like the children of God and yet you are all punished the same so how can you be His children?
May 7, 2015 at 8:34 am#796575Ed JParticipantHi BD,
Still trying to push your beliefs on others.
The quran is the book that is in error not the bible.It says that it confirms what came before it, meaning the Gospel and the Torah,
but it actually contradicts both – PROVING (on that one point alone) ‘IT’ IS IN ERROR.____________
God bless
Ed JMay 7, 2015 at 8:40 am#796576Ed JParticipantSo you say the quran is clear is that it – yea it is clearly WRONG!
May 7, 2015 at 8:52 am#796577Ed JParticipantquran 2,97
Say: Whoever is an enemy to Jibreel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah’s will,
a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believeA confirmation of what? …is this not referring to the Torah and the Gospel?
Please do not dodge
May 7, 2015 at 9:15 am#796579bodhithartaParticipantYes the Torah, Gospel and also the psalms but the Gospel it is referring to is the Gospel Jesus preached which is The Gospel of The Kingdom of God
Matthew 4:23
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.Matthew 24:14
And- this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations
; and then shall the end come.
Now if you notice the Gospel of the Kingdom is not preached by Christians because they preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is not the same as Jesus preached so the end will come when The Gospel of The Kingdom is restored which it is in Islam. Also notice The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is not based upon sacrifice crucifixion or resurrection those things are worldly.
Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,May 7, 2015 at 10:51 am#796580ProclaimerParticipantBod, the Whore does her best to lead men of God astray.
Who brought us to the Kingdom? The Whore or a real person with real faith?
It is written: “Come out of her MY people”.
In other words, God’s people should be free, but can also held captive by enemies. You only need to read about Israel’s history to see the physical version of this meaning.
The Body of Christ is the Church whose foundation is built on the truth that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah.
While you have to deny his sonship to respect the prophet and book you follow, you deny yourself the chance to stand on that unshakeable foundation.
While people can stand on that foundation and build works that will not crumble, it is also true that men who stand on that foundation can still be led astray at times. So rather than worry about others who may or may not be led astray in certain ways, why not be concerned for yourself by denying the foundation of Yeshua’s Church thereby rejecting it and even opposing it.
May 7, 2015 at 11:08 am#796581Ed JParticipantquran 2,97
Say: Whoever is an enemy to Jibreel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah’s will,
a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believeA confirmation of what? …is this not referring to the Torah and the Gospel?
Yes the Torah, Gospel and also the psalms
Hi BD,
Then you must admit that the quran is WRONG, or at least this sura,
because it clearly states it is “a confirmation of what went before” WHEN IT CLEARLY IS NOT!Can you see this? Or must I add it to your Deaf, Dumb and Blind thread.
Where you profess that others do not accept what is clearly written?
Do you admit the quran is NOT a confirmation of what went before?Yes or No?
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