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  • #353462
    Ed J
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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,05:47)
    Did Jesus teach the gentiles or diminish the law?

    Matthew 5:18
    For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    Either JESUS is saying here until he has fulfilled his mission after

    1. he is raised up or

    2.he is saying that the Law is permanent until ALL the prophecies inthe bible are completed


    Hi BD,

    Jesus is telling us that he remediates the law.

    Ed

    #353463
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,06:34)
    Did Jesus teach it was okay to eat pork? I will agree with ED here that the Authorized King James Version is reliable in tht it lets you know when it adds something for instance while researching tha question I just asked the AKJV says…


    Thanks BD!

    #353544
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2013,23:16)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2013,06:34)
    Did Jesus teach it was okay to eat pork? I will agree with ED here that the Authorized King James Version is reliable in tht it lets you know when it adds something for instance while researching tha question I just asked the AKJV says…


    Thanks BD!


    :)

    #354885
    Wakeup
    Participant

    *IF* ISLAM IS THE BEAST THAT WAS ;THEN,LETS ANALYSE.

    1.Then, islam is also the beast that was before John.
    2.Then islam *was*; *is not*; and *yet is*.(make no sense).(forcing a square peg into a round hole).
    3.Islam will come out of the bottomless pit,
    and will go into perdition.
    4.Will receive power with the 10 kings for one hour.
    *AS YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY,THAT IT DOES NOT JELL*
    Islam has been in the world for 1400yrs.And islams 10kings today which ever,does not have that power.

    1.Islam never existed before John.
    2.Islam was?? is not?? yet is?? N/A.
    3.Islam did not come out of the bottomless pit;
    4.Islam came out of an arab nation.
    5.Islam is not; and will not, be the 8th world power.
    6.The new world order came out of the bottomles pit.
    It was satans old idea,being revived.
    7. It will come out of the 7th world power which is now,today.
    8.It will be the 8th world power. Total world control.

    Babel was stopped by God, but not destroyed;just scattered; and is being worked out by satan to come out *again* as the NWO. One order; just as *Babel* was.
    It stayed dormant for 3000yrs, and is coming up again.

    We are living under a Roman empire today;the end time Roman empire,that was wounded by a sword,and did live.

    The 10 toes are of iron, mixed with clay.
    A mixture of the strong nations, and the weak nations.

    The 10toes are also the last part of the image.(Dan.2).
    being very short;it also will be for a very short time
    (one hour). And power was given unto him to continue
    forty and two months.(3/half years).rev13:5.

    Nothing above matches islam,for islam has never been the iron. Islam (submit to god), is a new religion.

    wakeup.

    #354887
    Devolution
    Participant

    Greetings Wakeup,

    You know, even if the false prophet was an Islamic and did miracles etc, most of the world would reject him anyway's and say that he was Satanic simply because he was Islamic…such is the mistrust most of the world has for that religion.

    There is just no way the non Islamic world would accept an Islamic as world leader…the undertones of evil people relate to Islam are just too ingrained into everybody's psyche….

    Oh, and one last thing, isn't it just mind boggingly inconceivable to even comprehend an Islamic leader being able IF it were possible to deceive let even the elect!!

    Hmmmm.

    #354892
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 13 2013,01:17)
    Greetings Wakeup,

    You know, even if the false prophet was an Islamic and did miracles etc, most of the world would reject him anyway's and say that he was Satanic simply because he was Islamic…such is the mistrust most of the world has for that religion.

    There is just no way the non Islamic world would accept an Islamic as world leader…the undertones of evil people relate to Islam are just too ingrained into everybody's psyche….

    Oh, and one last thing, isn't it just mind boggingly inconceivable to even comprehend an Islamic leader being able IF it were possible to deceive let even the elect!!

    Hmmmm.


    Hi Devo.

    You try to tell Edj that.
    It all depends on the person,is he for truth
    or just promoting doctrine.

    wakeup.

    #355003
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 06 2013,15:35)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 05 2013,17:57)
    That is a statement you are making your not presenting an argument or a case for the statement the statement itself is meaningless

    Saying Muhammad is more sacred to Islam, than Jesus or God is totally erroneous Muslims pray to ALLAH repeatedly throughout the Day beginning with the OPENING prayer

    1. In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
    2. Praise be to Allah, the Lord of All the Worlds;
    3. The Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
    4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
    5. You alone we worship and from You alone we seek help.
    6. Guide us to the straight way,
    7. The way of those on whom you have bestowed Your grace, not the way of
    those who earn Your anger, nor of those who go astray.

    That is the first chapter of the Quran it is said to contain the entire essence of the Quran it is also known as the “7 often repeated verses” as it is said Billions of times a day

    It is similar to “the lords prayer” But it is more encompassing. It ackowledge not only this earth but “ALL THE WORLDS” It shows we seek salvation through the Grace of God. Instead of saying “lead us not into temptation” it says “Guide us to the straight way”

    Now here is the big problem in the Bible

    James 1:12-14

    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

    This is what we believe but look:

    Genesis 22:1
    And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

    Deuteronomy 6:16
    Ye shall not tempt the Lord your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.

    Now read James again and see what I am saying, this is how you get so many denominations. The Quran is Clear especially in the critical areas such as this. So which is better to say?

    “Lead us not into temptation” or “Guide Us To The Striaght Way”?


    Boditharta.

    Here again;you are closing your eyes to the facts.
    What I am saying was not just my own view,but fact.
    You can see them by their fruits;not by what they say and preach.They preach good,but their works are abominable. They call themselves muslem(submit).

    As you can see;they have replaced that with the material comforts. Tempting themselves by living in a land full of pig eaters and infidels. What should be more important;
    To submit to God or to live amongst infidels?

    Regarding unclean food:
    Jesus made a new covenant; This is more spiritual.
    All food is good to eat,if taken with thanks giving.
    Because it only serve the belly. Only blood we can not eat
    because the live is in the blood,and that belongs to God.

    It is the spiritual food  that feeds the spirit of man.
    And that food is the bread that came down from heaven.
    Eating pork does not defile the spirit,it goes straight into the draught.

    The spiritual food stays with the spirit of man,that will be resurrected at the coming.

    wakeup.[/quote]
    JESUS NEVER ATE PORK and ifhe thought you should eat it he wouldn't have cast demons into a herd of swine:

    Mark 5:13
    And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

    Jesus didn't declare all foods clean

    Remember he ddn't comto take away the law


    Boditharta.

    Jesus did not eat pork,because he was born under the old
    law. He was about to make a new testament through his apostles. The gentiles eat pork;and Paul was assigned to teach the gentiles,therefore he made it clear.
    That eating is just to fill the belly. The most important is eating the right spiritual food,that gives life everlasting.

    Concerning Islam: They preach that Jesus and Mohamad are equal prophets; but in reality(in works), they consider mohamads name more holy.

    1.Blaspheme the name of God or Jesus,and they just shrug it off.
    2.Blaspheme the name Mohamad;and there is burnings
    and a fatuah put on the person,to be killed.
    3.This is the proof of the pudding.
    4.Burn the bible;and they will clap their hands.
    5.Burn the qur'an;and there is war.

    And you, or anyone can not deny this.

    The cup looks clean on the outside,but in the inside,it is dirty.The sepulchre looks clean and white on the outside;
    but inside, is full of dead mans bones.

    wakeup.

    #355077
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,21:40)
    Boditharta.

    Jesus did not eat pork,because he was born under the old
    law. He was about to make a new testament through his apostles. The gentiles eat pork;and Paul was assigned to teach the gentiles,therefore he made it clear.
    That eating is just to fill the belly. The most important is eating the right spiritual food,that gives life everlasting.

    Concerning Islam: They preach that Jesus and Mohamad are equal prophets; but in reality(in works), they consider mohamads name more holy.

    1.Blaspheme the name of God or Jesus,and they just shrug it off.
    2.Blaspheme the name Mohamad;and there is burnings
    and a fatuah put on the person,to be killed.
    3.This is the proof of the pudding.
    4.Burn the bible;and they will clap their hands.
    5.Burn the qur'an;and there is war.

    And you, or anyone can not deny this.

    The cup looks clean on the outside,but in the inside,it is dirty.The sepulchre looks clean and white on the outside;
    but inside, is full of dead mans bones.

    wakeup.


    In those countries that protest against blasphemy you cannot blasphem ALLAH without being put to death.When Muslims go to war they are yelling out. Allah Hu Akbar (God is Great) They are not yelling out the name of Muhammad.

    Regarding some muslim getting upset for mocking Muhammad tht is simply because look what Christians already allowed to be done with the image likeness and Character of Jesus, muslims can't ge angry over Jesus being mocked because Christians have allowed Mocking and all sorts of things including much worse things than mockery such as making Doctrines that Make Jesus equal to God or even making Jesus God Himself.

    Muslim don't ever want another prophet to be degraded or for that matter lifted up to a status higher than the one given by God

    #355091
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,12:52)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,21:40)
    Boditharta.

    Jesus did not eat pork,because he was born under the old
    law. He was about to make a new testament through his apostles. The gentiles eat pork;and Paul was assigned to teach the gentiles,therefore he made it clear.
    That eating is just to fill the belly. The most important is eating the right spiritual food,that gives life everlasting.

    Concerning Islam: They preach that Jesus and Mohamad are equal prophets; but in reality(in works), they consider mohamads name more holy.

    1.Blaspheme the name of God or Jesus,and they just shrug it off.
    2.Blaspheme the name Mohamad;and there is burnings
    and a fatuah put on the person,to be killed.
    3.This is the proof of the pudding.
    4.Burn the bible;and they will clap their hands.
    5.Burn the qur'an;and there is war.

    And you, or anyone can not deny this.

    The cup looks clean on the outside,but in the inside,it is dirty.The sepulchre looks clean and white on the outside;
    but inside, is full of dead mans bones.

    wakeup.


    In those countries that protest against blasphemy you cannot blasphem ALLAH without being put to death.When Muslims go to war they are yelling out. Allah Hu Akbar (God is Great) They are not yelling out the name of Muhammad.

    Regarding some muslim getting upset for mocking Muhammad tht is simply because look what Christians already allowed to be done with the image likeness and Character of Jesus, muslims can't ge angry over Jesus being mocked because Christians have allowed Mocking and all sorts of things including much worse things than mockery such as making Doctrines that Make Jesus equal to God or even making Jesus God Himself.

    Muslim don't ever want another prophet to be degraded or for that matter lifted up to a status higher than the one given by God


    Boditharta.

    Its true; mock *ALLAH* and there is burnings.
    Mock *GOD* ,and all is well. This is proof that allah is more important than God;he is the god of muslems only.

    Allah is the god of islam.Jehovah is not.
    The name Jehovah will never be excepted in islam,but only *SAY* that he is the same god;BUT NOT SO IN THEIR HEARTS.

    Islam was not started by Ishmail.
    He never wrote any spiritual book.
    There is a **big hole** between Ishmail and Mohamad.

    wakeup.

    #355099
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 13 2013,01:46)
    Hi Devo.

    You try to tell Edj that.
    It all depends on the person,is he for truth
    or just  promoting doctrine.

    wakeup.


    2Pt.1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

    “Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
     My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small
     rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:” (Deut 32:1-2)

    #355102
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 13 2013,01:17)
    Greetings Wakeup,

    There is just no way the non Islamic world would accept an Islamic as world leader…the undertones of evil people relate to Islam are just too ingrained into everybody's psyche….

    Hmmmm.


    Hi Devo,

    “The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise
     of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of Hosts mustereth the host of the battle. They come
     from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
     Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.” (Isaiah 13:4-6)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #355108
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 14 2013,15:46)

    Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 13 2013,01:17)
    Greetings Wakeup,

    There is just no way the non Islamic world would accept an Islamic as world leader…the undertones of evil people relate to Islam are just too ingrained into everybody's psyche….

    Hmmmm.


    Hi Devo,

    “The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise
     of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the LORD of Hosts mustereth the host of the battle. They come
     from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
     Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.” (Isaiah 13:4-6)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Nations gathered together;this is when the two
    opponents will come together to make war with the Lamb.
    First they war each other;then they will come together
    to make war with the Lamb.

    wakeup.

    #355110
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:58)
    Boditharta.

    Its true; mock *ALLAH* and there is burnings.
    Mock *GOD* ,and all is well. This is proof that allah is more important than God;he is the god of muslems only.

    Allah is the god of islam.Jehovah is not.
    The name Jehovah will never be excepted in islam,but only *SAY* that he is the same god;BUT NOT SO IN THEIR HEARTS.

    Islam was not started by Ishmail.
    He never wrote any spiritual book.
    There is a **big hole** between Ishmail and Mohamad.

    wakeup.


    Allah is God. Allah can't be more important than God because there is ONLY ONE GOD and HE is your God and my God.

    You keep comparing Jehovah to Allah not knowing they are th samem, I have already explained that AbrahamIsaac, Noah,Adam, Lot and even Jacob had NEVER heard the name Jehovah it was a name given strictly to Moses to give to the children of Israel.

    I have already stated that Islam is about the the religion of Abraham which was “SUBMISSION to God”

    And [mention, O Muhammad], when abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [Allah] said, “Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people.” [abraham] said, “And of my descendants?” [Allah] said, “My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.”

    And who would be averse to the religion of abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.

    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #130

    Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, abraham and Ishmael and Isaac – one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”

    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #133)

    They say, “Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided.” Say, “Rather, [we follow] the religion of abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists.”

    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #135)

    JUST PLEASE REMEMBER ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN

    #355124
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Boditharta.

    Be honest with yourself.

    Muslems say; Allah is God in their language.
    What if a European muslem shouts JEHOVAH IS GREAT;this is his language, ok? Instead of Allah is great.

    What do you think they will say? Be honest.

    Allah is not the God of the jews, nor the christians.
    He is some new God that is only 1400yrs old.

    wakeup.

    #355128
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:58)
    Boditharta.

    Its true; mock *ALLAH* and there is burnings.
    Mock *GOD* ,and all is well. This is proof that allah is more important than God;he is the god of muslems only.

    Allah is the god of islam.Jehovah is not.
    The name Jehovah will never be excepted in islam,but only *SAY* that he is the same god;BUT NOT SO IN THEIR HEARTS.

    Islam was not started by Ishmail.
    He never wrote any spiritual book.
    There is a **big hole** between Ishmail and Mohamad.

    wakeup.


    Allah is God. Allah can't be more important than God because there is ONLY ONE GOD and HE is your God and my God.

    You keep comparing Jehovah to Allah not knowing they are th samem, I have already explained that AbrahamIsaac, Noah,Adam, Lot and even Jacob had NEVER heard the name Jehovah it was a name given strictly to Moses to give to the children of Israel.

    I have already stated that Islam is about the the religion of Abraham which was “SUBMISSION to God”

    And [mention, O Muhammad], when abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [Allah] said, “Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people.” [abraham] said, “And of my descendants?” [Allah] said, “My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.”

    And who would be averse to the religion of abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #130

    Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, abraham and Ishmael and Isaac – one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #133)

    They say, “Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided.” Say, “Rather, [we follow] the religion of abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists.”

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #135)

    JUST PLEASE REMEMBER ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN


    BD, the god of the quran is satan the devil.

    #355129
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:30)
    Allah can't be more important than God because there is ONLY ONE GOD and HE is your God and my God.


    Quote (unnoble quran @ Sura 109 2-6)
    I worship not that which ye worship,
    Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
    Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    To you be your Way, and to me mine.
    Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

    #355141
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 14 2013,23:37)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:30)
    Allah can't be more important than God because there is ONLY ONE GOD and HE is your God and my God.


    Quote (unnoble quran @ Sura 109 2-6)
    I worship not that which ye worship,
    Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
    Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
    To you be your Way, and to me mine.
    Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.


    You forgot some it actually says:

    Sura 109 1-6 Al-Kafiroon | 6 verses | The Disbelievers

    1 Say: O ye that reject Faith!

    2 I worship not that which ye worship,

    3 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

    4 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

    5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

    6 To you be your Way, and to me mine

    That is the complete chapter and if you are a nonbeliever I guess it would apply to you

    #355142
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 14 2013,23:26)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 14 2013,16:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,14:58)
    Boditharta.

    Its true; mock *ALLAH* and there is burnings.
    Mock *GOD* ,and all is well. This is proof that allah is more important than God;he is the god of muslems only.

    Allah is the god of islam.Jehovah is not.
    The name Jehovah will never be excepted in islam,but only *SAY* that he is the same god;BUT NOT SO IN THEIR HEARTS.

    Islam was not started by Ishmail.
    He never wrote any spiritual book.
    There is a **big hole** between Ishmail and Mohamad.

    wakeup.


    Allah is God. Allah can't be more important than God because there is ONLY ONE GOD and HE is your God and my God.

    You keep comparing Jehovah to Allah not knowing they are th samem, I have already explained that AbrahamIsaac, Noah,Adam, Lot and even Jacob had NEVER heard the name Jehovah it was a name given strictly to Moses to give to the children of Israel.

    I have already stated that Islam is about the the religion of Abraham which was “SUBMISSION to God”

    And [mention, O Muhammad], when abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [Allah] said, “Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people.” [abraham] said, “And of my descendants?” [Allah] said, “My covenant does not include the wrongdoers.”

    And who would be averse to the religion of abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous.

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #130

    Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, abraham and Ishmael and Isaac – one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #133)

    They say, “Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided.” Say, “Rather, [we follow] the religion of abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists.”

    (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #135)

    JUST PLEASE REMEMBER ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW OR A CHRISTIAN


    BD, the god of the quran is satan the devil.


    According to the Bible you have to be incorrect and once you are shown to be incorrect you should cease saying what is not true because at that point you are bearing FALSE WITNESS.

    Then when she gave birth to her [child Maryam (Mary)], she said: “O my Lord! I have given birth to a female child,” – and Allah knew better what she brought forth, – “And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary), and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast.”

    If Allah cast Satan out then he cannot be Satan according to the scriptures that you say are the word of God.

    Surah 15

    30 So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together.

    31 Except Iblis (Satan) – he refused to be among the prostrators.

    32 (Allah) said: “O Iblis (Satan)! What is your reason for not being among the prostrators?”

    33 [Iblis (Satan)] said: “I am not the one to prostrate myself to a human being, whom You created from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud.”

    34 (Allah) said: “Then, get out from here, for verily, you are Rajim (an outcast or a cursed one).” [Tafsir At-Tabari]

    35 “And verily, the curse shall be upon you till the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection).”

    Now Jesus says that you are wrong:

    Mark 3:22-24

    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. 23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

    So from here on out you will be bearing false witness if you repeat what you hav been shown to be false

    #355143
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 14 2013,21:37)
    Boditharta.

    Be honest with yourself.

    Muslems say; Allah is God in their language.
    What if a European muslem shouts JEHOVAH IS GREAT;this is his language, ok? Instead of Allah is great.

    What do you think they will say? Be honest.

    Allah is not the God of the jews, nor the christians.
    He is some new God that is only 1400yrs old.

    wakeup.


    Excuse me you seem to have a great misunderstanding european people and others including myself often say “God is great” without saying ALLAH so yes you could say “Jehovah is great”, “Yahweh is great”, “El Shaddia is great”, “Elohim is Great”, “The Most High is great”….etc

    And (all) the Most beautiful names belong to Allah , so call on Him by them, and leave the company of those who belie or deny (or utter impious speech against) His names. They will be requited for what they used to do.

    ( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #180)

    Say: “Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most beautiful names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between.”

    ( سورة الإسراء , Al-Isra, Chapter #17, Verse #110)

    Allah! there is no god but He! To Him belong the most beautiful names.

    ( سورة طه , Taha, Chapter #20, Verse #8)

    He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most beautiful names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory: and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

    ( سورة الحشر , Al-Hashr, Chapter #59, Verse #24)

    Muslims love to hear people praise God.

    A better question would have been what if a european muslim shouts “My lord and God Jesus” the would not appreciate that at all.

    Allah is the God of ALL. The funny thing is you believe that you and the Jews have the same God although you and the Jews don't agree on who the Messiah is and they certainly would never call a man “God” but MOST Christians call Jesus “God” so those Christians certainly do not worship the same God as the Jews. Christians even call Jesus “Jehovah” do you call Jesus “Jehovah”?

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    Wakeup
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    Boditharta.

    I call God by his name sometimes,but most of the time,
    God or Father.
    Muslems think highly of Jacob in words,but in deeds it is a different thing.
    They speak greatly about Jacob,but hate the jews his children.

    Before you pray to God,go and make amends with your brother first, and then pray.

    Muslems pray with hate in their hearts.
    What a waste of prayer;it will only reach the ceiling.
    So jews are bad,but what are muslems to judge them?
    *Revenge is mine God said*.

    We are not *qualified* to judge; let the scriptures judge.
    The words that I speak to you will judge you.(Jesus own words).

    Muslems believe that God is in charge of all things;then why are they so troubled about israel in palestine?
    Can anyone change, what God has purposed?

    What are muslems; to protest?
    Are they not protesting against God?
    Did not God put the jews in palestine? Is it not his will?

    Was it not God that lead Moses to the land of milk and honey?
    Muslems have a lot to answer for on the day of judgement.

    The jews has rejected Gods Son;not God.
    This;for your information;is also part of Gods plan,to bring the gospel to all gentiles.

    Then he will come back to the jews.
    The first(jews) will be last,and the last(gentiles)
    will be first. the gentile saints resurrected will inherit the kingdom first,to provoke the jews to jealousy.

    You have a lot of the *deeper things* to learn my friend.

    wakeup.

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