Islam

Participant

BODITHARTA.

THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ONLY GOD CAN CORRUPT THE SCRIPTURES.
BUT THEN HE CONTRADICT HIMSELF BY SAYING THAT THE QUR'AN HAS BEEN TURN INTO SHREDS BY SOME.
HOW CAN YOU BE SURE THAT THE QUR'AN IS NOT CORRUPTED TODAY?

QUOTE:
READ YOUR BIBLE:
Jeremiah 8:8
“‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?UNQUOTE:
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THE LYING PEN ARE THOSE THAT SAY WE ARE WISE;AND WE HAVE THE LAW OF THE LORD.
THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT CORRUPTED.
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QUOTE:
Matthew 5:20
For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
THE SCRIBES ARE NOT DOING ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES.
THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT CORRUPTED;BUT THEY ARE CORRUPT IN THE FOLLOWING OF THE SCRIPTURES.
——————————————————————

QUOTE:
Now I will ask you is this true or false “Ye are gods”UNQUOTE:
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WE ARE GODS IN KNOWING GOOD, AND EVIL.
WE CAN DECIDE OUR OWN FUTURE.
CHOOSE THE NARROW PATH, OR THE WIDE PATH TO DESTRUCTION.
BUT WE ARE NOT THE CREATOR.
—————————————————————–

wakeup.

June 26, 2013 at 4:35 am#348716

Participant

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,12:32)

BODITHARTA.

wakeup.

Jesus knew good and evil and yet he called himself “son of God” so are you more than a “son of God” making yourself a God?

Turned into shreds mean treated it like it as false such as”ED J” does, he will have to answer for this.

Jeremiah 8:8 say the scribes(writers) handled it falsely, meaning they changed words and context. This scripture itself does 2 things, protect the integrity of the Bible as well as showing th corruption of it and that is it's protection.

It is a widely known fact that there have been verses added and subtracted not only that entire books have been tossed out. some denominations have 66 books Catholics have 73 and still the Ethiopian Bible only contains 51 books and it is the Oldest Christian nation dating back to the time of the Apostle Phillip (Acts 8:27-39)

so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.

Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO

NO, we are not gods knowing good and evil does not make someone “GOD” Because God doesn't just know GOOD and EVIL, HE ACTUALLY CREATES IT, we can do good o evil but we cannot create good or evil because truly God is th only one to decide what is good and what is evil.

You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?

You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie

The fact is God's world God's rules.

June 26, 2013 at 5:48 am#348724

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2013,11:17)

Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,10:45)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2013,10:03)

Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,08:36)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,19:45)

EdJ.

1.Mohamad.Islam.
2.Roman church.
3.John Smith.Mormon church
4.Pastor Rutherford.jw bible tract society.
5.–Hubbard.Scientology,the bloodsuckers club.
6.The club of lollipop christians.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

None of those (on YOUR list) wants to kill “the Christians”,
with the exception of number 1, which is 'antichrist';
*denying the Father and the Son. (1John 2:22)

“I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for
the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God” (Rev 20:4)

Which one (on YOUR list) beheads people for
witnessing of Jesus and for “The Word” of God? (<– please answer)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
*Reason for Edit: I added more for clarification purposes

EdJ.

You are obviously not well informed of your own country.
Your politicians wants all Christians dead.
They are considered subversive; the trouble makers.

wakeup.

You,ve been listening to the uninformed.

Now will you answer my question this time?

EDJ.

I have answered that question.

I said: your own government; your own leaders.
Brother will kill brother.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

The answer is # “1.” – Muhammadin islam.
My government does not kill Christians,
you are listening to the uninformed.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

June 26, 2013 at 5:54 am#348726

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2013,12:53)

Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2013,16:35)

This is false because the Bible itself claims it has been tampered wth and Jesus called the scribes unrighteous.

Jeremiah 8:8
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the Lord is with us’? Look, the false pen of the scribe certainly works falsehood.

Matthew 5:20
For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

Hi BD,

Now you're attempting to make the bible discredit itself? How foolish!
“the pen of the scribes”(Jer 8:8) refers to the King's scribes, NOT the Prophets of God.

Muhammad is the false prophet of Rev.

Ed J

June 26, 2013 at 6:00 am#348728

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2013,13:05)

Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2013,14:22)

Hi BD,

It's funny how you keep posting excerpts from the 'book of fraud'
as if it contains some kind of authority, which of course it doesn't.

Surah 2:79 Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, “This is from Allah,” to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby.

ED you might want to understand first then talk, your words condemn you.

Hey WOW, that's what Muhammad did – did he not?
The 'book of fraud' has NO authority, you are duped to believe it does.

“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” (Romans 8:1)

June 26, 2013 at 12:36 pm#348783

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2013,15:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,12:32)

BODITHARTA.

wakeup.

Jesus knew good and evil and yet he called himself “son of God” so are you more than a “son of God” making yourself a God?

Turned into shreds mean treated it like it as false such as”ED J” does, he will have to answer for this.

so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.

Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO

You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?

You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie

The fact is God's world God's rules.

Boditharta.

QUOTE:
Jesus knew good and evil and yet he called himself “son of God” so are you more than a “son of God” making yourself a God?UNQUOTE:
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THERE IS A DIFFERENCE; JESUS IS BORN BY THE WILL OF GOD, AND WE ARE BORN BY THE WILL OF MAN.
JESUS SAID TO GOD.BEHOLD THE MAN HAS BECOME AS **ONE OF US**TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.
JOHN 10:34.JESUS SPEAKING: *I*SAID,YE ARE GODS.
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QUOTE:
Turned into shreds mean treated it like it as false such as”ED J” does, he will have to answer for this.UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
WATCH IT;ED IS VERY ANGREE AT THE MOMENT.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT;BUT THEY CAN DO THAT TODAY ALSO.
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QUOTE:
Jeremiah 8:8 say the scribes(writers) handled it falsely, meaning they changed words and context. This scripture itself does 2 things, protect the integrity of the Bible as well as showing th corruption of it and that is it's protection.UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
JESUS NEVER TOLD OFF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES FOR *CHANGING THE SCRIPTURES*;BUT HOW THEY BEHAVE,AND WORK FULL OF CORRUPTION.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
It is a widely known fact that there have been verses added and subtracted not only that entire books have been tossed out. some denominations have 66 books Catholics have 73 and still the Ethiopian Bible only contains 51 books and it is the Oldest Christian nation dating back to the time of the Apostle Phillip (Acts 8:27-39)UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————–
WE MUST HAVE FAITH IN GOD AND HIS POWER TO PRESERVE AT LEAST ONE TRANSLATION THAT IS NOT CORRUPTED;BECAUSE JESUS SAID SEEK.
WE CAN HAVE NO EXCUSE BY SAYING THAT THE BIBLES ARE ALL CORRUPTED. THE LATTER TRANSLATIONS YES.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.
Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO. UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-
THIS IS TRUE NO; BUT THAT IS NOT HOW GOD HAS CONSTRUCTED THE BIBLE. WE MUST TURN THE PAGES AND COMPARE AND SEEK. LINE UPON LINE,PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT,HERE ALITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE.
SLOWLY BUILDING UP A PICTURE.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
NO, we are not gods knowing good and evil does not make someone “GOD” Because God doesn't just know GOOD and EVIL, HE ACTUALLY CREATES IT, we can do good o evil but we cannot create good or evil because truly God is th only one to decide what is good and what is evil.UNQUOTE.
—————————————————————–
WE SHOULD NEVER CONTRADICT JESUS OWN WORDS.
JOHN10:34. *I SAID* YE ARE GODS. WE ARE CONSIDERED GODS(WE ARE NOT GOD). BECAUSE NOW WE CAN CHOOSE OUR OWN DESTINY;WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE LIKE,BUT MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN DOINGS.
—————————————————————–
QUOTE:
You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
WAR IS NEVER GOOD; BUT WEN GOD COMMANDS WAR,
WE MUST SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS NECESSARRY.
BECAUSE GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THE CANCER TO PERMEATE
INTO THE BODY;SO, HARD MEASURES ARE NECESSARY.
ISRAEL WAS SURROUNDED BY PAGANS;NOT HARD TO INTERMARRY. GOD ALSO IS LEADING THEM INTO A LAND
PROMISED TO ABRAHAM,AND IN THAT LAND DWELLS
PAGANS.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie
The fact is God's world God's rules.UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-

WHERE DOES GOD COMMANDS US TO LIE?

wakeup

June 27, 2013 at 3:34 am#348872

Participant

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,23:36)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2013,15:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,12:32)

BODITHARTA.

wakeup.

Jesus knew good and evil and yet he called himself “son of God” so are you more than a “son of God” making yourself a God?

Turned into shreds mean treated it like it as false such as”ED J” does, he will have to answer for this.

so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.

Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO

You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?

You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie

The fact is God's world God's rules.

Boditharta.

QUOTE:
Jeremiah 8:8 say the scribes(writers) handled it falsely, meaning they changed words and context. This scripture itself does 2 things, protect the integrity of the Bible as well as showing th corruption of it and that is it's protection.UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
JESUS NEVER TOLD OFF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES FOR *CHANGING THE SCRIPTURES*;BUT HOW THEY BEHAVE,AND WORK FULL OF CORRUPTION.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
It is a widely known fact that there have been verses added and subtracted not only that entire books have been tossed out. some denominations have 66 books Catholics have 73 and still the Ethiopian Bible only contains 51 books and it is the Oldest Christian nation dating back to the time of the Apostle Phillip (Acts 8:27-39)UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————–
WE MUST HAVE FAITH IN GOD AND HIS POWER TO PRESERVE AT LEAST ONE TRANSLATION THAT IS NOT CORRUPTED;BECAUSE JESUS SAID SEEK.
WE CAN HAVE NO EXCUSE BY SAYING THAT THE BIBLES ARE ALL CORRUPTED. THE LATTER TRANSLATIONS YES.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.
Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO. UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-
THIS IS TRUE NO; BUT THAT IS NOT HOW GOD HAS CONSTRUCTED THE BIBLE. WE MUST TURN THE PAGES AND COMPARE AND SEEK. LINE UPON LINE,PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT,HERE ALITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE.
SLOWLY BUILDING UP A PICTURE.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
NO, we are not gods knowing good and evil does not make someone “GOD” Because God doesn't just know GOOD and EVIL, HE ACTUALLY CREATES IT, we can do good o evil but we cannot create good or evil because truly God is th only one to decide what is good and what is evil.UNQUOTE.
—————————————————————–
WE SHOULD NEVER CONTRADICT JESUS OWN WORDS.
JOHN10:34. *I SAID* YE ARE GODS. WE ARE CONSIDERED GODS(WE ARE NOT GOD). BECAUSE NOW WE CAN CHOOSE OUR OWN DESTINY;WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE LIKE,BUT MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN DOINGS.
—————————————————————–
QUOTE:
You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
WAR IS NEVER GOOD; BUT WEN GOD COMMANDS WAR,
WE MUST SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS NECESSARRY.
BECAUSE GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THE CANCER TO PERMEATE
INTO THE BODY;SO, HARD MEASURES ARE NECESSARY.
ISRAEL WAS SURROUNDED BY PAGANS;NOT HARD TO INTERMARRY. GOD ALSO IS LEADING THEM INTO A LAND
PROMISED TO ABRAHAM,AND IN THAT LAND DWELLS
PAGANS.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie
The fact is God&
#39;s world God's rules.UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-

WHERE DOES GOD COMMANDS US TO LIE?

wakeup

Do you believe Solomon would have cut the child in half as he said he would?

June 27, 2013 at 10:52 am#348882

2besee

Participant

Bod,

Quote

So when the scriptures “Ye are gods” is it correct or incorrect?

Psalms 82
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid [them] out of the hand of the wicked.

They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

June 27, 2013 at 10:59 am#348883

2besee

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2013,15:24)

Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,08:55)

So, Bod is a Christian who has converted to Islam – and He is trying to lead other Christians to Islam, and away from Christ?

Bod, why did you leave Christianity? (Do not give me that story of how “You saw that the Quran was a continuation on of the Bible” – because by saying that – you are throwing away most of the New Testament in favor of something which says the complete opposite).

I was led to Islam by God through prayer and study. Have you read the entire bible word for word? I have and studied it for decades and still study it today. God showed me the scriptures in th Bible that no blood is needed for atonment and then I was led to read th Quran and understood.

Jesus is your scapegoat you lay all your iniquities on his head but the scapegoat is not killed:

Leviticus 16:10
But the goat on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make atonement upon it, and to let it go as the scapegoat into the wilderness.

Matthew 4:1
Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

God then showed me th purpose of the baptism of Jesus which was for the atonemet of Israel

Once again:

Leviticus 16:21
and Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

Matthew 11:11
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

God was revealing to me all I needed before I picked the Quran up and there I received confirmation of what God taught me. God continues to reveal to me today all I need to know. When I had read that God saved Jesus at first it was scary then I cried because it was beautiful an then God made me remember those above verses he taught me so I believe in progressive revelation. If you read carefully what I write you will notice I am not trying to convert anyone lest they are willing to bear witness to the truth but many Chrisians or Jews will not agree to simple things, can you agree that the Scapegoat for atonement was not killed?

Bod, I believe the scriptures that say that Jesus was crucified. I did ask the question once and was shown that Jesus was crucified. It was confirmed to me, and so I believe it but also know that God raised Him from the dead, and gave Him eternal life.

June 27, 2013 at 12:04 pm#348886

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2013,14:34)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,23:36)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2013,15:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,12:32)

BODITHARTA.

wakeup.

Jesus knew good and evil and yet he called himself “son of God” so are you more than a “son of God” making yourself a God?

Turned into shreds mean treated it like it as false such as”ED J” does, he will have to answer for this.

so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.

Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO

You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?

You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie

The fact is God's world God's rules.

Boditharta.

QUOTE:
Jeremiah 8:8 say the scribes(writers) handled it falsely, meaning they changed words and context. This scripture itself does 2 things, protect the integrity of the Bible as well as showing th corruption of it and that is it's protection.UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
JESUS NEVER TOLD OFF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES FOR *CHANGING THE SCRIPTURES*;BUT HOW THEY BEHAVE,AND WORK FULL OF CORRUPTION.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
It is a widely known fact that there have been verses added and subtracted not only that entire books have been tossed out. some denominations have 66 books Catholics have 73 and still the Ethiopian Bible only contains 51 books and it is the Oldest Christian nation dating back to the time of the Apostle Phillip (Acts 8:27-39)UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————–
WE MUST HAVE FAITH IN GOD AND HIS POWER TO PRESERVE AT LEAST ONE TRANSLATION THAT IS NOT CORRUPTED;BECAUSE JESUS SAID SEEK.
WE CAN HAVE NO EXCUSE BY SAYING THAT THE BIBLES ARE ALL CORRUPTED. THE LATTER TRANSLATIONS YES.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.
Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO. UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-
THIS IS TRUE NO; BUT THAT IS NOT HOW GOD HAS CONSTRUCTED THE BIBLE. WE MUST TURN THE PAGES AND COMPARE AND SEEK. LINE UPON LINE,PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT,HERE ALITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE.
SLOWLY BUILDING UP A PICTURE.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
NO, we are not gods knowing good and evil does not make someone “GOD” Because God doesn't just know GOOD and EVIL, HE ACTUALLY CREATES IT, we can do good o evil but we cannot create good or evil because truly God is th only one to decide what is good and what is evil.UNQUOTE.
—————————————————————–
WE SHOULD NEVER CONTRADICT JESUS OWN WORDS.
JOHN10:34. *I SAID* YE ARE GODS. WE ARE CONSIDERED GODS(WE ARE NOT GOD). BECAUSE NOW WE CAN CHOOSE OUR OWN DESTINY;WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE LIKE,BUT MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN DOINGS.
—————————————————————–
QUOTE:
You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
WAR IS NEVER GOOD; BUT WEN GOD COMMANDS WAR,
WE MUST SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS NECESSARRY.
BECAUSE GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THE CANCER TO PERMEATE
INTO THE BODY;SO, HARD MEASURES ARE NECESSARY.
ISRAEL WAS SURROUNDED BY PAGANS;NOT HARD TO INTERMARRY. GOD ALSO IS LEADING THEM INTO A LAND
PROMIS
ED TO ABRAHAM,AND IN THAT LAND DWELLS
PAGANS.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie
The fact is God's world God's rules.UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-

WHERE DOES GOD COMMANDS US TO LIE?

wakeup

Do you believe Solomon would have cut the child in half as he said he would?

Boditharta.

No; I dont believe solomon would kill the babie.
kings those days; are very cruel, and those two women
know that.

Soloman was just using human psychology.

wakeup.

June 28, 2013 at 3:49 am#348976

Participant

Quote (2besee @ June 27 2013,21:59)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 25 2013,15:24)

Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,08:55)

So, Bod is a Christian who has converted to Islam – and He is trying to lead other Christians to Islam, and away from Christ?

Jesus is your scapegoat you lay all your iniquities on his head but the scapegoat is not killed:

Leviticus 16:10
But the goat on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make atonement upon it, and to let it go as the scapegoat into the wilderness.

Matthew 4:1
Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

God then showed me th purpose of the baptism of Jesus which was for the atonemet of Israel

Once again:

I have no desire to compel you to believe what I am saying. May who were God fearing Jews could not go that next step
and believe Jesus is the Messiah. Their faith was great in what they already had to go beyond that is a different story as lord Jesus said:

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

You see if your main Goal is to be “Saved” then you must insist that Jesus died for your sins, you cannot even consider
Jesus escaping death fr you are afraid of your own demise.

June 28, 2013 at 4:08 am#348984

Participant

Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,23:04)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2013,14:34)

Do you believe Solomon would have cut the child in half as he said he would?

Boditharta.

No; I dont believe solomon would kill the babie.
kings those days; are very cruel, and those two women
know that.

Soloman was just using human psychology.

wakeup.

Hi BD,

I'll answer your question in a manor
which lines up with your understanding.

Solomon knew he wasn't going to have to cut the child in half,
because he knew that the real mother would NOT let that happen.

June 28, 2013 at 4:13 am#348987

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,14:49)

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

You see if your main Goal is to be “Saved” then you must insist that Jesus died for your sins, you cannot even consider
Jesus escaping death fr you are afraid of your own demise.

“without the shedding of blood is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)

June 28, 2013 at 4:19 am#348988

Participant

Quote (Wakeup @ June 27 2013,23:04)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 27 2013,14:34)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,23:36)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2013,15:35)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,12:32)

BODITHARTA.

wakeup.

Jesus knew good and evil and yet he called himself “son of God” so are you more than a “son of God” making yourself a God?

Turned into shreds mean treated it like it as false such as”ED J” does, he will have to answer for this.

so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.

Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO

You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?

You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie

The fact is God's world God's rules.

Boditharta.

QUOTE:
Jeremiah 8:8 say the scribes(writers) handled it falsely, meaning they changed words and context. This scripture itself does 2 things, protect the integrity of the Bible as well as showing th corruption of it and that is it's protection.UNQUOTE:
——————————————————————
JESUS NEVER TOLD OFF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES FOR *CHANGING THE SCRIPTURES*;BUT HOW THEY BEHAVE,AND WORK FULL OF CORRUPTION.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
It is a widely known fact that there have been verses added and subtracted not only that entire books have been tossed out. some denominations have 66 books Catholics have 73 and still the Ethiopian Bible only contains 51 books and it is the Oldest Christian nation dating back to the time of the Apostle Phillip (Acts 8:27-39)UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————–
WE MUST HAVE FAITH IN GOD AND HIS POWER TO PRESERVE AT LEAST ONE TRANSLATION THAT IS NOT CORRUPTED;BECAUSE JESUS SAID SEEK.
WE CAN HAVE NO EXCUSE BY SAYING THAT THE BIBLES ARE ALL CORRUPTED. THE LATTER TRANSLATIONS YES.
——————————————————————
QUOTE:
so if all the books are not always present what do you consider that? The Quran is a SINGLE BOOK that contains the much needed info of ALL the books in 1 SINGLE VOLUME.
Is there 1 SINGLE book in all the books of the BIBLE that covers all the past , present and future? NO. UNQUOTE:
—————————————————————-
THIS IS TRUE NO; BUT THAT IS NOT HOW GOD HAS CONSTRUCTED THE BIBLE. WE MUST TURN THE PAGES AND COMPARE AND SEEK. LINE UPON LINE,PRECEPT UPON PRECEPT,HERE ALITTLE, AND THERE A LITTLE.
SLOWLY BUILDING UP A PICTURE.
—————————————————————-
QUOTE:
NO, we are not gods knowing good and evil does not make someone “GOD” Because God doesn't just know GOOD and EVIL, HE ACTUALLY CREATES IT, we can do good o evil but we cannot create good or evil because truly God is th only one to decide what is good and what is evil.UNQUOTE.
—————————————————————–
WE SHOULD NEVER CONTRADICT JESUS OWN WORDS.
JOHN10:34. *I SAID* YE ARE GODS. WE ARE CONSIDERED GODS(WE ARE NOT GOD). BECAUSE NOW WE CAN CHOOSE OUR OWN DESTINY;WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE LIKE,BUT MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN DOINGS.
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QUOTE:
You think peace is good? Then what do you think when God commands war?UNQUOTE:
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WAR IS NEVER GOOD; BUT WEN GOD COMMANDS WAR,
WE MUST SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS NEC
ESSARRY.
BECAUSE GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THE CANCER TO PERMEATE
INTO THE BODY;SO, HARD MEASURES ARE NECESSARY.
ISRAEL WAS SURROUNDED BY PAGANS;NOT HARD TO INTERMARRY. GOD ALSO IS LEADING THEM INTO A LAND
PROMISED TO ABRAHAM,AND IN THAT LAND DWELLS
PAGANS.
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QUOTE:
You think lying is wrong? Then what do you think when Go commands you to lie
The fact is God's world God's rules.UNQUOTE:
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WHERE DOES GOD COMMANDS US TO LIE?

wakeup

Do you believe Solomon would have cut the child in half as he said he would?

Boditharta.

No; I dont believe solomon would kill the babie.
kings those days; are very cruel, and those two women
know that.

Soloman was just using human psychology.

wakeup.

1 Kings 3:24-28

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

24 And the king said, Bring me a sword. And they brought a sword before the king. 25 And the king said, Divide the living child in two, and give half to the one, and half to the other. 26 Then spake the woman whose the living child was unto the king, for her bowels yearned upon her son, and she said, O my lord, give her the living child, and in no wise slay it. But the other said, Let it be neither mine nor thine, but divide it. 27 Then the king answered and said, Give her the living child, and in no wise slay it: she is the mother thereof. 28 And all Israel heard of the judgment which the king had judged; and they feared the king: for they saw that the wisdom of God was in him, to do judgment.

This is Islam, we say let the Christian keep Christ knowing that Jesus is the living sacrifice although to Christians his value is only in his death

June 28, 2013 at 4:22 am#348989

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Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:13)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,14:49)

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

You see if your main Goal is to be “Saved” then you must insist that Jesus died for your sins, you cannot even consider
Jesus escaping death fr you are afraid of your own demise.

“without the shedding of blood is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)

Mark 1:4
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Where is the BLOOD, ED?

June 28, 2013 at 4:38 am#348994

Participant

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:22)

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:13)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,14:49)

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

You see if your main Goal is to be “Saved” then you must insist that Jesus died for your sins, you cannot even consider
Jesus escaping death fr you are afraid of your own demise.

“without the shedding of blood is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)

Mark 1:4
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Where is the BLOOD, ED?

The baptism of John symbolizes Jesus death, burial, and resurrection.

June 28, 2013 at 5:00 am#348997

Participant

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:38)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:22)

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:13)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,14:49)

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

You see if your main Goal is to be “Saved” then you must insist that Jesus died for your sins, you cannot even consider
Jesus escaping death fr you are afraid of your own demise.

“without the shedding of blood is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)

Mark 1:4
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Where is the BLOOD, ED?

The baptism of John symbolizes Jesus death, burial, and resurrection.

So, where is the blood ED?

John was alreay baptizing for the remission of sin

June 28, 2013 at 6:00 am#349002

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Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,16:00)

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:38)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,15:22)

Quote (Ed J @ June 28 2013,15:13)

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2013,14:49)

Matthew 16:25
For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

You see if your main Goal is to be “Saved” then you must insist that Jesus died for your sins, you cannot even consider
Jesus escaping death fr you are afraid of your own demise.

“without the shedding of blood is no remission [of sins].” (Heb 9:22)

Mark 1:4
John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

Where is the BLOOD, ED?

The baptism of John symbolizes Jesus death, burial, and resurrection.

So, where is the blood ED?

John was alreay baptizing for the remission of sin

Hi BD,

And the Israelis were already sacrificing animals;
but it is Jesus' blood that does away with our sins.
Jesus was baptized by John, did Jesus have any sin?

June 28, 2013 at 7:45 am#349007