Is there such as a reliable bible?

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  • #340353
    Wakeup
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    WHICH BIBLE TRANSLATION TO READ.

    Jesus said; **SEEK AND YOU SHAL FIND**.
    This means that there must be a bible provided by GOD that we can rely on, to find the truth,to every nation.

    Now which one is it?
    1.We know according to scriptures that in the last days,
    the teachings will be distorted,and that they will teach
    doctrines inspired by devils.

    2.We also know that since the modern invention of the
    printing press,there have been many new bibles printed.

    3.We also know that satan has been working hard to corrupt
    the teachings. Common sense will tell us that the earlier
    translations would be the one we should go for.

    4.The reason for the great confusion in the teachings is
    because of the multiple new bibles available.

    5. The newer the translations;the worse it gets.
    The most sold book has become an attraction to the
    greedy money worshippers,and corrupt churches.

    6. The true worshippers,that worship God in truth are
    the most responsible in choosing which bible to study.

    7. A good bible should not have any contradictions within
    the scriptures.

    8. God would not have provided us with the latest
    translations; but the earliest; because they, in the past
    must also be able to find the truth.

    9. If one is serious in finding the truth,one should really
    consider which bible to study. Not any bible will do,
    not just any bible,just because it is the latest translation,
    and it looks nice to carry around.

    10. I recommend the earliest translations.
    Only if one is serious,and want to be set free.

    wakeup.

    #340354
    terraricca
    Participant

    1CO 2:10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.
    1CO 2:15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.

    1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

    2CO 7:14 For if in anything I have boasted to him about you, I was not put to shame; but as we spoke all things to you in truth, so also our boasting before Titus proved to be the truth.

    2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been thoroughly made manifest among you in all things.

    JUDE 1:5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.

    REV 21:5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”

    i do not see any special collection of books that suppose to be better than the other unless you DO NOT SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH

    #340355
    kerwin
    Participant

    To all,

    None that I have found.

    Most of them are better than one would respect after being in the hands of heretics for such a long time.

    #340356
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,07:48)
    1CO 2:10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.
    1CO 2:15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.

    1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

    2CO 7:14 For if in anything I have boasted to him about you, I was not put to shame; but as we spoke all things to you in truth, so also our boasting before Titus proved to be the truth.

    2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been thoroughly made manifest among you in all things.

    JUDE 1:5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.

    REV 21:5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”

    i do not see any special collection of books that suppose to be better than the other unless you DO NOT SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH


    Hi Pierre,

    You're not appraised?
    An another example of more corruption.

    “JUDGED”, as in being condemned, not appraised.
    I appraise you as having value, CAN I NOT DO THIS, Pierre?

    Get yourself an “AKJV Bible”! And you may loose some of your misconceptions.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340357
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,12:22)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,07:48)
    1CO 2:10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.
    1CO 2:15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.

    1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

    2CO 7:14 For if in anything I have boasted to him about you, I was not put to shame; but as we spoke all things to you in truth, so also our boasting before Titus proved to be the truth.

    2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been thoroughly made manifest among you in all things.

    JUDE 1:5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.

    REV 21:5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”

    i do not see any special collection of books that suppose to be better than the other unless you DO NOT SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH


    Hi Pierre,

    You're not appraised?
    An another example of more corruption.

    “JUDGED”, as in being condemned, not appraised.
    I appraise you as having value, CAN I NOT DO THIS, Pierre?

    Get yourself an “AKJV Bible”! And you may loose some of your misconceptions.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    72 or 70?

    #340358
    942767
    Participant

    Hi:

    My opinion is that the KJV is the most reliable, but there are some errors in some of their translation, and I believe an addition of a couple of scriptures by those that copied the original manuscripts in order to try to justify the “trinity doctrine”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #340359
    seekingtruth
    Participant

    I agree there is no reliable translation, however I believe we do have access to a reliable understanding of scriptures through context in some of the better translations. The whole of scripture is our safeguard.

    My opinion – Wm

    #340360
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,07:22)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,07:48)
    1CO 2:10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.
    1CO 2:15 But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one.

    1Co 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

    2CO 7:14 For if in anything I have boasted to him about you, I was not put to shame; but as we spoke all things to you in truth, so also our boasting before Titus proved to be the truth.

    2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been thoroughly made manifest among you in all things.

    JUDE 1:5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.

    REV 21:5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.”

    i do not see any special collection of books that suppose to be better than the other unless you DO NOT SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH


    Hi Pierre,

    You're not appraised?
    An another example of more corruption.

    “JUDGED”, as in being condemned, not appraised.
    I appraise you as having value, CAN I NOT DO THIS, Pierre?

    Get yourself an “AKJV Bible”! And you may loose some of your misconceptions.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    what is wrong with “” appraises “”

    1CO 5:13 But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES.

    JN 5:22 “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,
    JN 8:50 “But I do not seek My glory; there is One who seeks and judges.
    JN 12:48 “ He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.

    JAS 4:11 Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

    Jas 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

    Jn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

    Jn 8:50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.

    Jn 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

    1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

    1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

    I think the KJV is wrong here in 1Cor;2;15 according to James 4;11—so I think that the word “”appraises “”or evaluate all things to make a sound judgment as to the course to take with the things in question,is the true meaning of what it says ,

    #340361
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,12:59)
    edj

    what is wrong with “” appraises “”


    PIERRE

    There's nothing wrong with the word appraises;
    the problem is: THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD IS SAYING!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340362
    terraricca
    Participant

    I use three bibles ;the NIV,KJV, and the NetBible ,I also have many, many other versions

    #340363
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,08:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,12:59)
    edj

    what is wrong with “” appraises “”


    PIERRE

    There's nothing wrong with the word appraises;
    the problem is: THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD IS SAYING!    

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

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    THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD IS SAYING!

    how do you know were you there when they (apostles ) wrote the letters ???

    #340364
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,13:09)
    I use three bibles ;the NIV,KJV, and the NetBible ,I also have many, many other versions


    What's wrong with your French bible?
    You do have one, right?

    #340365
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,13:11)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,08:06)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,12:59)
    edj

    what is wrong with “” appraises “”


    PIERRE

    There's nothing wrong with the word appraises;
    the problem is: THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD IS SAYING!    

    God bless
    Ed J


    edj

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    THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD IS SAYING!

    how do you know were you there when they (apostles ) wrote the letters ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Good question. It's because I know the Author.
    And I know what it is that he is telling his Creation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340366
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    We have multiple translations and some are better than others, and the same is true for each verse. Some do a better job than others.

    That said, in modern times, we have many more texts to translate from including older texts than what they had when the KJV was translated.

    The Dead Sea Scrolls was perhaps the greatest find of all and the KJV translators obviously didn't have access to that treasure trove.

    The thing is that there are many tools that even the common man has access to and many of these tools are free and online.

    We also know that in the last days knowledge shall increase and Biblical knowledge is knowledge too. Of course knowledge is only one thing, it must be coupled with wisdom if it is to be meaningful.

    Saying that the KJV for example is the most accurate translation is silly. Especially when we know that it stands alone in including verses that are not scripture. Such as the Comma Johanneum.

    #340367
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,08:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,13:09)
    I use three bibles ;the NIV,KJV, and the NetBible ,I also have many, many other versions


    What's wrong with your French bible?
    You do have one, right?


    edj

    I have six of them ,and some say judge and other says appraised ,what also include the word evaluation ,just as we can appraise or evaluate “THE WORDS AND THE MEANING OF THEM TO US ,
    LIKE WOULD WE APPLY THEM OR NOT ,OR ARE THEY GOOD OR BAD,ARE THEY USEFUL OR USELESS OR VALUELESS ,

    THE WORD JUDGE MEANS THAT YOU ARE A JUDGE NO ???

    ANYONE THAT JUDGE TAKE A JUDGEMENT no ???

    JAMES 4;11……. SAYS  He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

    BUT WE HAVE TO APPRAISE OR EVALUATE WHAT WE TAKE IN AND WHAT WE SAY ,JOHN SAYS “TO TEST ALL SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY COME FROM GOD “””BY APPRAISE OR EVALUATE THOSE SPIRITS (IDEAS) WE DO NOT JUDGE THEM,SO IN  THIS WAY IT WOULD NOT MAKE US JUDGES

    #340368
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 28 2013,14:28)
    Saying that the KJV for example is the most accurate translation is silly.


    Which English translation do YOU say is “more” accurate than the “AKJV Bible”?

    #340369
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,14:38)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,08:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,13:09)
    I use three bibles ;the NIV,KJV, and the NetBible ,I also have many, many other versions


    What's wrong with your French bible?
    You do have one, right?


    edj

    I have six of them ,and some say judge and other says appraised ,what also include the word evaluation ,just as we can appraise or evaluate “THE WORDS AND THE MEANING OF THEM TO US ,
    LIKE WOULD WE APPLY THEM OR NOT ,OR ARE THEY GOOD OR BAD,ARE THEY USEFUL OR USELESS OR VALUELESS ,

    THE WORD JUDGE MEANS THAT YOU ARE A JUDGE NO ???

    ANYONE THAT JUDGE TAKE A JUDGEMENT no ???

    JAMES 4;11……. SAYS  He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it.

    BUT WE HAVE APPRAISE OR EVALUATE WHAT WE TAKE IN AND WHAT WE SAY ,JOHN SAYS “TO TEST ALL SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY COME FROM GOD “””BY APPRAISE OR EVALUATE THOSE SPIRITS (IDEAS) WE DO NOT JUDGE THEM,SO IN  THIS WAY IT WOULD NOT MAKE US JUDGES


    Hi T8,

    What are they called?
    And when were they translated?

    Before ← 1611 → After

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340370
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,09:39)

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 28 2013,14:28)
    Saying that the KJV for example is the most accurate translation is silly.


    Which English translation do YOU say is “more” accurate than the “AKJV Bible”?


    EDJ

    I find that all bibles are corrupted and by having more than one it help to see and understand why they are different and then read the context and at the same time keep in mind the total meaning of scriptures and plan of God almighty ,this will take precedent over the words to keep, or by rejecting other,

    of cause this mean that it is recommended that the person who does this evaluation as enough godly truth in him to take the right words ,and not let himself be influenced by out side corruption ,

    in this way we let the spirit of God's truth acting inside of us, do the work

    #340371
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Pierre,

    That question was for T8.
    Will you answer the question to YOU?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340372
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,16:39)
    Which English translation do YOU say is “more” accurate than the “AKJV Bible”?


    The RSV.

    Also the Jerusalem Bible or the New Jerusalem Bible is said to be copied from the original Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew. It has the name of God in the OT as Yahweh.

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