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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2010,14:45) Hi ED,
Jesus prayed to his Father in heaven with the help of the Spirit of God within him.Jesus is not of our condemned flesh.
Nick………..God IS SPIRIT and HE was (IN) Jesus. Jesus said that “the FATHER was (IN) HIM”, YOU just don't get it, GOD and HIS Spirit is ONE and the same thing. “THAT GOD MAY BE (ALL) AND (IN) (ALL)”> GOD'S SPIRIT (IS) WHAT LIFE (IS).Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2010,09:15) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,14:42) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2010,13:46) Hi Ed, 1) So now I understand you to mean the Word=the Holy Spirit=Jesus' Father and Jesus' Father became flesh ..inside of Jesus..
2) and prayed to Himself while on earth. Is that about right?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) Yes, after I adjusted it; check the wording difference.
He becomes flesh in us as well! (Romans 12:1-2 / Eph.4:23-24 / Col.3:10)2) Jesus Prayed to his father, who was inside of him.
We pray to God in the same way, certain he hears us!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjJas 4:3 When you do ask for something, you don’t receive it. Why? Because you ask for the wrong reason. You want to spend your money on your sinful pleasures.
Jas 4:4 You are not faithful to God. Don’t you know that to be a friend of the world is to hate God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Jas 4:5 Don’t you know what Scripture says? The spirit that God caused to live in us wants us to belong only to God. Don’t you think Scripture has a reason for saying that?
Jas 4:6 God continues to give us more grace. That’s why Scripture says,
“God opposes those who are proud.
But he gives grace to those who are not.” (Proverbs 3:34)
Jas 4:7 So obey God. Stand up to the devil. He will run away from you.
Jas 4:8 Come near to God, and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners. Make your hearts pure, you who can’t make up your minds.
Jas 4:9 Be full of sorrow. Cry and sob. Change your laughter to crying. Change your joy to sadness.Jas 1:6 But when you ask, you must believe. You must not doubt. People who doubt are like waves of the sea. The wind blows and tosses them around.
Jas 1:7 A man like that shouldn’t expect to receive anything from the Lord.
Jas 1:8 He can’t make up his mind. He can never decide what to do.man ,this is a new doctrine a new gospel ,we can trow the bible away ,because of those explanation the scriptures become void.
is it not edj ??
Hi Terraricca,Many on this site have a problem with, you BUT I DON'T !
Because you believe what you say, even if others don't.You speak your mind here, and here is “Bible Truth” for you…
Jer:48:10: Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully,
and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.You do NOT hold back your “SWORD” from blood!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,14:42) mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:Hi Mike,
1) Yes, after I adjusted it; check the wording difference.
He becomes flesh in us as well! (Romans 12:1-2 / Eph.4:23-24 / Col.3:10)2) Jesus Prayed to his father, who was inside of him.
We pray to God in the same way, certain he hears us!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,Quote 1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Quote 23to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. Quote 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. I'm sorry, Ed, but those three Scriptures you gave me say nothing about the Word being the Holy Spirit or the Father becoming flesh inside of us.
peace and love,
mikeHi ED,
The Spirit wrote the word and the Spirit is the torch by which to read it.
But the Spirit is not the wordQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2010,13:54) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,14:42) mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:Hi Mike,
1) Yes, after I adjusted it; check the wording difference.
He becomes flesh in us as well! (Romans 12:1-2 / Eph.4:23-24 / Col.3:10)2) Jesus Prayed to his father, who was inside of him.
We pray to God in the same way, certain he hears us!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,Quote 1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Quote 23to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. Quote 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. I'm sorry, Ed, but those three Scriptures you gave me say nothing about the Word being the Holy Spirit or the Father becoming flesh inside of us.
peace and love,
mike
M64what is that flesh in side people what type of bouchery is this???
sinse wen is God become flesh and in us
?new very new ,what the scriptures and the bible translation 2050
?Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,18:16) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:49) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,06:29) What happened at “Pentecost”… Acts 4:31 …THEY were all filled with the HolySpirit, and they spake The Word of God with boldness.
Acts 10:44 …yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all THEM which heard The Word.
Rom. 10:17 So then FAITH cometh BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY “THE WORD” of GOD.
Hey EdWhat happened, did you change your mind? I thought you said that Pentecost was the return of Jesus Christ?
Georg
Hi Georg,What inconsistency do you see; Georg?
Luke 9:27: But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Matt. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.“Pentecost” brings “the Kingdom's God”
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will
love him, and “WE“(Jesus' Father + Jesus) will come unto him(the believer), AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
[Isaiah 64:4-5 + Heb.9:28=John 14:23]Isaiah 64:4-5 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God(HolySpirit), beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Thou(HolySpirit + Jesus: A Personal “Pentecost”) meetest him(the Believer) that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those
that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover“);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost“) without sin unto salvation.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdI see a lot of inconsistency.
Remember this?Mat 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 4:23 ¶ And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.Jesus is the King of the kingdom of God, with him present, you could say his kingdom is at hand; that of course was not meant literally because he is not reigning yet, he was only “preaching” the kingdom of God
The saints died for the kingdom, they saw the kingdom in their mind, and sacrificed for it.
Then there will be those that reject Jesus and his kingdom, and will die the second time “in” his kingdom.Pentecost brought the promised Holy Spirit, not the kingdom.
Man(color=yellow)if I (color=red) write like(color=purple) you(color=green)I get(color=black) all(color) screwed (color=white)[maybe] up (color=orange)[@^&*#], got it?[_*!+%]/173= 49-/[d]=17+94$%{cd}total=666!?
(((Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD)))
This makes about as much sense as your writing; he sits at the corner of his right hand, or what is the head of the corner he sits on?Georg
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,18:16) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:49) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,06:29) What happened at “Pentecost”…Acts 4:31 …THEY were all filled with the HolySpirit, and they spake The Word of God with boldness.Acts 10:44 …yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all THEM which heard The Word.Rom. 10:17 So then FAITH cometh BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY “THE WORD” of GOD. Hey EdWhat happened, did you change your mind? I thought you said that Pentecost was the return of Jesus Christ?Georg
Hi Georg,What inconsistency do you see; Georg?Luke 9:27: But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here,which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.Matt. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. “Pentecost” brings “the Kingdom's God”John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and “WE“(Jesus' Father + Jesus) will come unto him(the believer), AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM. [Isaiah 64:4-5 + Heb.9:28=John 14:23] Isaiah 64:4-5 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God(HolySpirit), beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him. Thou(HolySpirit + Jesus: A Personal “Pentecost”) meetest him(the Believer) that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover“); and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost“) without sin unto salvation.The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117; Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)! “The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdI see a lot of inconsistency.Remember this?Mat 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 4:23 ¶ And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people. Jesus is the King of the kingdom of God, with him present, you could say his kingdom is at hand; that of course was not meant literally because he is not reigning yet, he was only “preaching” the kingdom of GodThe saints died for the kingdom, they saw the kingdom in their mind, and sacrificed for it.Then there will be those that reject Jesus and his kingdom, and will die the second time “in” his kingdom.Pentecost brought the promised Holy Spirit, not the kingdom.Man(color=yellow)if I (color=red) write like(color=purple) you(color=green)I get(color=black) all(color) screwed (color=white)[maybe] up (color=orange)[@^&*#], got it?[_*!+%]/173= 49-/[d]=17+94$%{cd}total=666!?(((Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD))) This makes about as much sense as your writing; he sits at the corner of his right hand, or what is the head of the corner he sits on?Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 09 2010,13:59) Hi ED,
The Spirit wrote the word and the Spirit is the torch by which to read it.
But the Spirit is not the word
Nick……..Who should we believe you or Jesus , He said “the words He spoke to us (ARE) SPIRIT, but you say the words are not SPIRIT , so who do you think we should believe YOU OR JESUS? Scripture also say whosoever speaks not according to these word the spirit is (NOT) in him. THINK ABOUT IT>Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2010,11:51) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 09 2010,13:59) Hi ED,
The Spirit wrote the word and the Spirit is the torch by which to read it.
But the Spirit is not the word
Nick……..Who should we believe you or Jesus , He said “the words He spoke to us (ARE) SPIRIT, but you say the words are not SPIRIT , so who do you think we should believe YOU OR JESUS? Scripture also say whosoever speaks not according to these word the spirit is (NOT) in him. THINK ABOUT IT>
GeneBut Jesus did not say “the words he spoke were THE HOLY SPIRIT“!
What is it that the Holy Spirit speaks?
The word of God is written, is it not?
But is the written word of God “The Holy Spirit” and if it is then why is it called the dead letter.
The Spirit inspires the written words.
In your own words “Trash your carnal and gnostic views”!
WJ
GB,
The words of Jesus are Spirit and life but the Spirit is not the Word.
You say the Spirit is not in those who speak not according to the Word.
But your intellect is spirit theory is nowhere in the word-mirror anyone?nick
Christ spook the truth of God through the holy spirit,and he proved it with the powers of the miracles that God made for Jesus,
wen Jesus said that his father works trough him ,he means that what ever he was saying and doing it was not him but the father, he was the direct spokesman for God on earth at that time,
and had all the prove needed to be true.
it is for this reason true, that anyone can understand and accept the words of truth and enter them in his hearth ,he would become Jesus spook man,also Jesus imitator in regards of the love for God ,and the will of God ,if you possess those thing it will not leave you idling trust me.Hi T,
Indeed the words and deeds of God's anointed servants are FROM the Spirit.But the Spirit is more than the Word but also power and life.
[1Cor12]
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2010,04:52) Gene But Jesus did not say “the words he spoke were THE HOLY SPIRIT“!
WJ
Hi WJ,Do you 'think' Jesus' words were NOT “Holy”?
You seem to have 'a bit of trouble' “connecting all the dots”!John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
But they are not the exclusively the Spirit of God but of the Spirit of God.We do not connect dots.
Logicians do.Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 09 2010,17:13) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,18:16) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:49) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,06:29) What happened at “Pentecost”… Acts 4:31 …THEY were all filled with the HolySpirit, and they spake The Word of God with boldness.
Acts 10:44 …yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all THEM which heard The Word.
Rom. 10:17 So then FAITH cometh BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY “THE WORD” of GOD.
Hey EdWhat happened, did you change your mind? I thought you said that Pentecost was the return of Jesus Christ?
Georg
Hi Georg,What inconsistency do you see; Georg?
Luke 9:27: But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Matt. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.“Pentecost” brings “the Kingdom's God”
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will
love him, and “WE“(Jesus' Father + Jesus) will come unto him(the believer), AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
[Isaiah 64:4-5 + Heb.9:28=John 14:23]Isaiah 64:4-5 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God(HolySpirit), beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Thou(HolySpirit + Jesus: A Personal “Pentecost”) meetest him(the Believer) that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those
that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover“);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost“) without sin unto salvation.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdI see a lot of inconsistency.
Remember this?Mat 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 4:23 ¶ And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.Jesus is the King of the kingdom of God, with him present, you could say his kingdom is at hand; that of course was not meant literally because he is not reigning yet, he was only “preaching” the kingdom of God
The saints died for the kingdom, they saw the kingdom in their mind, and sacrificed for it.
Then there will be those that reject Jesus and his kingdom, and will die the second time “in” his kingdom.Pentecost brought the promised Holy Spirit, not the kingdom.
Man(color=yellow)if I (color=red) write like(color=purple) you(color=green)I get(color=black) all(color) screwed (color=white)[maybe] up (color=orange)[@^&*#], got it?[_*!+%]/173= 49-/[d]=17+94$%{cd}total=666!?
(((Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD)))
This makes about as much sense as your writing; he sits at the corner of his right hand, or what is the head of the corner he sits on?Georg
Hi Georg,Have you ever heard of “Fractal Geometry”? God has!
1Cor:2:14: But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are
foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.“YHVH is GOD”=117 – ‘i am’=23
1Cor.1:17-23 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words,
lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. For the preaching of the [†] cross is to them
that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will
destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where is the wise(red dragon(888) Rev.12:3)? where is the scribe(false prophet(666) Rev.13:11)?
where is the disputer of this world(antichrist(222) Rev.13:1)? hath not God made foolish the wisdom
of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God
by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks
seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling=117block[□], and unto the Greeks foolishness;1Peter 2:7-87: Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient,
the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And (Jesus=74) [□] “a stone”=74 of “stumbling”=117,
and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.Ed J
Hi ED,
When you teach what is written and folk do not accept it those words apply.
But if you teach from your own ideas or numbers they don'tQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2010,14:46) M64 what is that flesh in side people what type of bouchery is this???
sinse wen is God become flesh and in us ?
new very new ,what the scriptures and the bible translation 2050 ?
Hi T,I'm not sure what you're saying. I don't think the Father becomes flesh inside us. That's Ed's belief. Do you agree with him?
P.S. Did you get the Augustine info I sent?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2010,13:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2010,14:46) M64 what is that flesh in side people what type of bouchery is this???
sinse wen is God become flesh and in us ?
new very new ,what the scriptures and the bible translation 2050 ?
Hi T,I don't think the Father becomes flesh inside us. That's Ed's belief. Do you agree with him?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,Are you saying you don't have the “HolySpirit” in you?
Ed J
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2010,13:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2010,14:46) M64 what is that flesh in side people what type of bouchery is this???
sinse wen is God become flesh and in us ?
new very new ,what the scriptures and the bible translation 2050 ?
Hi T,I'm not sure what you're saying. I don't think the Father becomes flesh inside us. That's Ed's belief. Do you agree with him?
P.S. Did you get the Augustine info I sent?
peace and love,
mike
Mikeyes thank you ,but this was a comment of a writer on the writings of Augustine ,I remember reading a french translation direct from Latin,and the only thing Augustine has mention is that he could see a close relation between the father and the son,so i think it depend who does the translation,i have study Origen as well and the same thing happen there ,it depend who translated either catholics or protestant denomination.
as for my comment on the father in us;i do not agree it all with this type of imagery,
understand this their are only two spirits in this world,either the spirit of the world or the spirit of God and Christ,
so if you have one you do not have the other,that simple.
this means two influence ;were man as to make a decision on,serve one and discard the other,just as Jesus said,Lk 16:13 “No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”(money ,means power and wants they are both vanity ,thats all what the world is)
James also said;Jas 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.our spirit can only choose what we want to put in it and this with our hearths,but if we fill it with God knowledge and understanding ,and Christ promise we receive that hope and faith that only God can fulfill,so that the living waters of the word of God can make us live a righteous live by receiving redemption of our sins through Jesus sacrifice.
and so we will have the spirit of live of Christ and his father in our hearths and not the spirit of the world who kills.do you understand the way God and Christ are in us ??
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 09 2010,13:59) Hi ED,
The Spirit wrote the word and the Spirit is the torch by which to read it.
But the Spirit is not the word
Nick…….Why can't you just SPIRIT IS THE (INTELLECT) to understand the words which (ARE) Spirit, rather of GOD or MAN. Using the word TORCH is just another word fro INTELLECT, is it not?
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