Is the Earth growing?

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    #370726
    terraricca
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    t8

    this is a good one I have seen this one a few years ago ,there more of them be Neal Adams ,can you post them all ??

    thanks

    #370728
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    Hi terraricca. I will have a look at his other stuff.

    Is there a scripture that talks about the land started to break apart after the flood?
    I thought there was, but cannot find it.

    If it exists then the land breaking apart fits with continental drift, but also this theory.

    Also because it is too hard to check that the continents fit together when you shrink the Earth, do you know of anyone who has run this simulation and not got the same result?

    #370727
    seekingtruth
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    T8,
    I think the verse your looking for is Genesis 10:25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

    I lean towards this view, it explains where the waters in Gen 1:9 went and of course the flood waters. It also explains the isolation of various species around the world hence limited breeding partners leads to the different dispersion and types of species we see today. I differ from what he proposes, first of all in the timing and I believe that the growth occurs in spurts (one happened at day 1 of creation and another at the flood, although there is some ongoing expansion all along).

    My opinion – Wm

    #370729
    terraricca
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2012,12:49)
    Hi terraricca. I will have a look at his other stuff.

    Is there a scripture that talks about the land started to break apart after the flood?
    I thought there was, but cannot find it.

    If it exists then the land breaking apart fits with continental drift, but also this theory.

    Also because it is too hard to check that the continents fit together when you shrink the Earth, do you know of anyone who has run this simulation and not got the same result?


    t8

    there are two ways either “youtube” or google NEAL ADAMS science project

    there are about 9 little videos

    #370730
    terraricca
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    t8

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    Also because it is too hard to check that the continents fit together when you shrink the Earth, do you know of anyone who has run this simulation and not got the same result?

    I do not find one ,for the exception of one man ,but is style was our Gene style

    #370731
    terraricca
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2012,12:49)
    Hi terraricca. I will have a look at his other stuff.

    Is there a scripture that talks about the land started to break apart after the flood?
    I thought there was, but cannot find it.

    If it exists then the land breaking apart fits with continental drift, but also this theory.

    Also because it is too hard to check that the continents fit together when you shrink the Earth, do you know of anyone who has run this simulation and not got the same result?


    t8

    this could be it ;Ge 8:11 When the dove returned to him in the evening, there in its beak was a freshly plucked olive leaf! Then Noah knew that the water had receded from the earth.

    Ge 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.”
    Ge 1:7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.

    Ge 1:8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
    Ge 1:9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so.
    Ge 1:10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

    in my understanding at this time their was no continents one section of water and one section was land,

    Ge 1:11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so.
    Ge 1:12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
    Ge 1:13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

    #370732
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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2012,10:07)
    in my understanding at this time their was no continents one section of water and one section was land,


    Genesis 8:2
    Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

    If the land broke apart due to Earth inflation, then one could imagine that under the land was water (fountains of the deep) and that this water poured out once the crust cracked open thereby releasing the water which would cause a flood on the land and then subside once it all flowed into the low points around the trenches.

    On the other hand, continental drift sort of favours the idea that the flood itself caused the land to break apart as the fountains of the deep would have led to rock layers to tilt and slide apart.

    Both ideas are possible.

    The other thing is that the early Earth supported gigantism according to the fossil record. Animals and plants were much bigger once. There were giant kangaroos for example and even the Redwood in California was much taller. I wonder if a smaller Earth allows this because of a different atmosphere.

    Also, the waters above the firmament in the pre-flood world would logically result in warm even temperatures around the globe due to a greenhouse effect. Once that layer  condensed, it would then create a sudden difference in climate with the most dramatic effects taking place in today's polar regions such as the Arctic where mammoths have been found with temperate to subtropical plants in their stomachs, all the while being perfectly preserved with little decay demonstrating a sudden event.

    #370733
    terraricca
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    T8

    The springs. Of the deep ,could also mean lava and volcanos and that the center expand for same reason and to prevent that all will die ,God let the waters from above fall down to control the effects above and wen all was calm down the water start to create clouds in the sky and in time the high land start to dry up. And so Noah could come out of the ark.

    #370734
    seekingtruth
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    A major point to consider is that if during the flood mountains were covered with water (even though I believe they were much lower then) where would the water go (evaporation into clouds could only hold at most a few inches). However if the earth expanded (the initial start of the growth may have been the cause of the fountains of the deep bursting forth) this would create fissures (much like the great rift valley in Africa) that the waters could run into.

    I believe when the fountains burst forth they did so violently spraying water into the upper atmosphere destabilizing the water in the canopy and causing it to fall to earth. As the earth split, volcanoes everywhere erupted spewing ash blocking  the sun drastically dropping temperatures everywhere but all the more so at the poles. Most of the flood waters would have been frozen (except for a band around the equator, obviously extending somewhere north of Turkey) and have been slowly melting ever since. This explains why there are so many structures found submerged along coastal waters.

    Obviously the act of splitting would cause seismic activity resulting in multiple tsunamis. To survive this I believe the ark was in deep water at the time (big waves come in more shallow water). It should be noted that in July 7th 1958 the largest tsunami ever recorded happened when a landslide at the head of a bay caused a wave 1/2 KM high, Howard Ulrich and his son survived it in a 30-40 foot boat. To better handle this I believe the ark was designed hollow in the center much like a catamaran.

    My opinion – Wm

    #370735
    seekingtruth
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    The expansion could also explain why people don't live as long now and why dinosaurs could get as big as they did back then (bigger then their bones would support in our current gravity, or so I've read).

    #370736
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    Yes apparently today's gravity cannot support these giants of old.

    #370737
    seekingtruth
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    What are others thoughts on this topic?

    Wm

    #370738
    seekingtruth
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    No other opinions?

    Wm :(

    #370739
    david
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    My opinion is that this is a crazy insanely insane idea. Interesting. It's so out there.

    #370740
    david
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    #370741
    kerwin
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    To all,

    It doesn't fit the claim that all the seas were gathered into one place.

    #370742
    seekingtruth
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    I agree David it is, but some of our greatest discovery's started as a “crazy insanely insane idea” until further understanding brought it front and center. Besides not understanding the possible mechanics that could cause it, what are your objections to science behind it?

    Thanks – Wm

    #370743
    seekingtruth
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    Kerwin,
    The whole world was covered with water, the only way the water could “gather in one place” is for the land to move above the water level (the diameter of land had to have increased).

    Thanks – Wm

    #370744
    kerwin
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    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 23 2013,08:37)
    Kerwin,
    The whole world was covered with water, the only way the water could “gather in one place” is for the land to move above the water level (the diameter of land had to have increased).  

    Thanks – Wm


    Seeker,

    The part of the video I saw showed no water.

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