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- July 13, 2009 at 4:45 pm#137428datguyParticipant
A friend (Trinitarian) used the word Omniscient to describe Jesus Christ. Is he really all knowing? For someone who believes in the trinity the answer will be “Yes.” I believe the answer is “No.”
Christ speaking to his disciples said he doesn't know the Hour he shall return? Mark 13:32. If he truly is God, how can he not know?
July 13, 2009 at 6:24 pm#137431Jodi LeeParticipantHi datguy!
Good Point!
Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants–things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw.
The resurrected Jesus cannot even make his own revelation, he still is receiving all truth and knowledge from His Father.
Notice, just like in the rest of the NT, Jesus is shown to be a separate person from God. If Jesus IS God then why does he NEED God to give him the revelation? If Jesus IS God then why does he keep referring to him as his Father and not himself and his Father…and the HS?
Revelation 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
Jesus is not omniscient because he is not God. Revelation 22 should make it clear to everyone that Jesus is still a human being with human DNA that contains the genes of his ancestor David.
Mt 12:50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Hebrews 10:12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. 15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin. 19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God,
Jesus is a man at the right hand of God, he is not God, he is our brother and our High Priest OVER the house of God.
July 13, 2009 at 8:28 pm#137458SEEKINGParticipantQuote (datguy @ July 13 2009,09:45) A friend (Trinitarian) used the word Omniscient to describe Jesus Christ. Is he really all knowing? For someone who believes in the trinity the answer will be “Yes.” I believe the answer is “No.” Christ speaking to his disciples said he doesn't know the Hour he shall return? Mark 13:32. If he truly is God, how can he not know?
He apparently does not know who is assigned to sit at his right and left hand either –Mat 20:23 He said to them, “You will drink my cup, but to sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”
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