Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #106335
    Tiffany
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,11:53)
    Hi Irene,
    To clarify fo others ACCEPTING JESUS as LORD is a popular idea as a way of salvation
    but it is not written.


    Nick When you write LORD it speaks of the Almighty LORd who is our heavenly Father. Not Jesus. Did I ever say that only through Jesus Christ we are saved or did I say by having Faith in Jesus Christ it is a free gift from God. Don't you believe those scriptures that I gave as prove? To understand what is of God however we should be Baptized and receive the Joly Spirit.
    Ephesians  2:8
    Irene

    #209969
    GeneBalthrop
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    To All…..>Rom 6:4 Therefore we (ARE BURIED) With him by baptism (INTO DEATH) that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Rom 6:5…> For (IF) we have been (PLANTED TOGETHER IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH) we shall also (LIKE HIM)be in the likeness of His resurrection.

    Question…..Is the term buried with Him , symbolical or actual and if it is actual, in what way is it actual> seeing we have not physically died yet.

    Answer……You must die to yourself, how (by putting your WILL to death) This is accomplished by the Baptism of the SPIRIT this SPIRIT is what Put Jesus' WILL to death also, and it enables us to put our Wills to death Just as it did JESUS. Therefore we can be Buried with Christ Also. Because the Spirit of GOD puts our Wills to death, through the operation of GOD'S GRACE . Death should not always be seen as Just a physical death when some one physically dies.

    Mar 10:38….> But Jesus said unto them, ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that i drink of? and be baptiswd with the baptism that i am baptized with ? verse 39..> and they said unto him We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye (shall indeed drink) of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized with all Shall you be baptized.

    We are to do exactly what Jesus did by the same Spirit that He was Baptized with the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT> If we have been baptized with the same spirit it will produce the same thing in our lives as it did Jesus life .

    love and peace to all……………gene

    #106364
    GeneBalthrop
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    To All…..>Rom 6:4 Therefore we (ARE BURIED) With him by baptism (INTO DEATH) that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Rom 6:5…> For (IF) we have been (PLANTED TOGETHER IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH) we shall also (LIKE HIM)be in the likeness of His resurrection.

    Question…..Is the term buried with Him , symbolical or actual and if it is actual, in what way is it actual> seeing we have not physically died yet.

    Answer……You must die to yourself, how (by putting your WILL to death) This is accomplished by the Baptism of the SPIRIT this SPIRIT is what Put Jesus' WILL to death also, and it enables us to put our Wills to death Just as it did JESUS. Therefore we can be Buried with Christ Also. Because the Spirit of GOD puts our Wills to death, through the operation of GOD'S GRACE . Death should not always be seen as Just a physical death when some one physically dies.

    Mar 10:38….> But Jesus said unto them, ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that i drink of? and be baptiswd with the baptism that i am baptized with ? verse 39..> and they said unto him We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye (shall indeed drink) of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized with all Shall you be baptized.

    We are to do exactly what Jesus did by the same Spirit that He was Baptized with the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT> If we have been baptized with the same spirit it will produce the same thing in our lives as it did Jesus life .

    love and peace to all……………gene

    #209970
    NickHassan
    Participant

    GB,
    The resurrection life is given to those who have died.
    Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies it remains but a simple grain.
    Death already rules in these tattered old tents and the earth will reclaim what is it's own.

    #106367
    NickHassan
    Participant

    GB,
    The resurrection life is given to those who have died.
    Unless a grain of wheat falls to the ground and dies it remains but a simple grain.
    Death already rules in these tattered old tents and the earth will reclaim what is it's own.

    #209971
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 21 2008,16:07)
    To All…..>Rom 6:4 Therefore we (ARE BURIED) With him by baptism (INTO DEATH) that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Rom 6:5…> For (IF) we have been (PLANTED TOGETHER IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH) we shall also (LIKE HIM)be in the likeness of His resurrection.  

    Question…..Is the term buried with Him  , symbolical or actual and if it is actual, in what way is it actual> seeing we have not physically died yet.  

    Answer……You must die to yourself, how (by putting your WILL to death) This is accomplished by the Baptism of the SPIRIT this SPIRIT is what Put Jesus' WILL to death also, and it enables us to put our Wills to death Just as it did JESUS. Therefore we can be Buried with Christ Also. Because the Spirit of GOD puts our Wills to death, through the operation of GOD'S GRACE . Death should not always be seen as Just a physical death when some one physically dies.

    Mar 10:38….> But Jesus said unto them, ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that i drink of? and  be baptiswd with the baptism that i am baptized with ? verse 39..> and they said unto him We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye (shall indeed drink) of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized with all Shall you be baptized.

    We are to do exactly what Jesus did by the same Spirit that He was Baptized with the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT>  If we have been baptized with the same spirit it will produce the same thing in our lives as it did Jesus life .

    love and peace to all……………gene


    okay three days three nights, literal? this is buried with him Jesus who was dead, some say Jonas wasn't?
    the earth  is confused over two or three ways to play dead?

    We and he ARE buried with Jonas and raised with the first begotten son Jonas?

    Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
    Jon 3:3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.

    #106374
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 21 2008,16:07)
    To All…..>Rom 6:4 Therefore we (ARE BURIED) With him by baptism (INTO DEATH) that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Rom 6:5…> For (IF) we have been (PLANTED TOGETHER IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS DEATH) we shall also (LIKE HIM)be in the likeness of His resurrection.  

    Question…..Is the term buried with Him  , symbolical or actual and if it is actual, in what way is it actual> seeing we have not physically died yet.  

    Answer……You must die to yourself, how (by putting your WILL to death) This is accomplished by the Baptism of the SPIRIT this SPIRIT is what Put Jesus' WILL to death also, and it enables us to put our Wills to death Just as it did JESUS. Therefore we can be Buried with Christ Also. Because the Spirit of GOD puts our Wills to death, through the operation of GOD'S GRACE . Death should not always be seen as Just a physical death when some one physically dies.

    Mar 10:38….> But Jesus said unto them, ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that i drink of? and  be baptiswd with the baptism that i am baptized with ? verse 39..> and they said unto him We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye (shall indeed drink) of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized with all Shall you be baptized.

    We are to do exactly what Jesus did by the same Spirit that He was Baptized with the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT>  If we have been baptized with the same spirit it will produce the same thing in our lives as it did Jesus life .

    love and peace to all……………gene


    okay three days three nights, literal? this is buried with him Jesus who was dead, some say Jonas wasn't?
    the earth  is confused over two or three ways to play dead?

    We and he ARE buried with Jonas and raised with the first begotten son Jonas?

    Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
    Jon 3:3 So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days' journey.

    #209972
    charity
    Participant

    UN certain destination even after been raised from death, the third day?

    rising from the death and perished dust?

    Hsa 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Hsa 6:3 Then shall we know, *[if]* we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter [and] former rain unto the earth.
    Hsa 6:4¶O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness [is] as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.

    Be born again of good seed not a bad….All Men are risen again to obtain mercy from been smitten..

    They that sleep in the graves shall come forth, to meet corruption, and some to everlasting Life…hearing the voice of the shepherd….John

    #106376
    charity
    Participant

    UN certain destination even after been raised from death, the third day?

    rising from the death and perished dust?

    Hsa 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Hsa 6:3 Then shall we know, *[if]* we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter [and] former rain unto the earth.
    Hsa 6:4¶O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness [is] as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.

    Be born again of good seed not a bad….All Men are risen again to obtain mercy from been smitten..

    They that sleep in the graves shall come forth, to meet corruption, and some to everlasting Life…hearing the voice of the shepherd….John

    #209973
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity,
    We are to follow Jesus into his death and resurrection.
    Praise God water baptism is sufficient for the righteousness of God.
    Scourging, the crown of thorns, the spittle and the nails do not appeal.

    Jonas dies, sees Hades but does not abide and is raised to life in three days.

    #106378
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity,
    We are to follow Jesus into his death and resurrection.
    Praise God water baptism is sufficient for the righteousness of God.
    Scourging, the crown of thorns, the spittle and the nails do not appeal.

    Jonas dies, sees Hades but does not abide and is raised to life in three days.

    #209974
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,16:45)
    Hi charity,
    We are to follow Jesus into his death and resurrection.
    Praise God water baptism is sufficient for the righteousness of God.
    Scourging, the crown of thorns, the spittle and the nails do not appeal.

    Jonas dies, sees Hades but does not abide and is raised to life in three days.


    well grab yourself a trench coat, and catch hold of reality nick.

    #106382
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,16:45)
    Hi charity,
    We are to follow Jesus into his death and resurrection.
    Praise God water baptism is sufficient for the righteousness of God.
    Scourging, the crown of thorns, the spittle and the nails do not appeal.

    Jonas dies, sees Hades but does not abide and is raised to life in three days.


    well grab yourself a trench coat, and catch hold of reality nick.

    #209975
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity,
    Have you not seen the door to truth?

    #106383
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity,
    Have you not seen the door to truth?

    #209976
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,17:10)
    Hi charity,
    Have you not seen the door to truth?


    yes evidently I have seen your door?, its way to narrow, and I noticed a lot of other doors for sale in the market place
    And then I decided Men have created God in these marvelous Images and Likeness
    And I watched as the demanding Men, forced others to understand like themselves understand.

    and it was nice to find a friend that honors God, and understands Men are in full control down here, even as it should be noticed Jesus had his life cut off,
    My God My GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME, I wasn't expecting that? FOR THE MEN OF THIS EARTH are THE GODS, AND i SHALL FIND MYSELF A KIND ONE
    Amen

    #106384
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,17:10)
    Hi charity,
    Have you not seen the door to truth?


    yes evidently I have seen your door?, its way to narrow, and I noticed a lot of other doors for sale in the market place
    And then I decided Men have created God in these marvelous Images and Likeness
    And I watched as the demanding Men, forced others to understand like themselves understand.

    and it was nice to find a friend that honors God, and understands Men are in full control down here, even as it should be noticed Jesus had his life cut off,
    My God My GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME, I wasn't expecting that? FOR THE MEN OF THIS EARTH are THE GODS, AND i SHALL FIND MYSELF A KIND ONE
    Amen

    #209977
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity,
    Where are men in full control?

    #106385
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity,
    Where are men in full control?

    #209978
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2008,17:59)
    Hi charity,
    Where are men in full control?


    o there god given free will is control and power Nick.

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