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Hi Nick,
Are there not 2 resurrections one of the just and one of the unjust? How is it possible that ALL are raised from the dead?
ALL are resurrected because Christ paid the penalty for all sins, which is death. All are resurrected from death, because they cannot be held to the penalty of death because he paid for their sins. Christ dying did not stop temptation or sin, he paid the penalty for ALL sinners. Temptation and sin does not cease until the body is born again into eternal life, death no longer has dominion.
The unjust when they are resurrected are still without repentance of their sins, this is what it means to die in your sins. This is why they are raised to judgment. Also, the unjust when they are raised from the dead they do not have a body born of God, but are still born under the chains of weak flesh.
You Quoted me: (1) Water baptism is calling upon the name of the Lord to save you. (2) It symbolizes (3a) dying with Christ and being resurrected with him. (3b)This is the baptism of the holy spirit. (4) Fire is the trials that we go through to grow in the holy spirt.
You: This is NOT the baptism of the Spirit, such a baptism has nothing to do with water.
Me: Sorry I did not make myself clear to you. Number (3b) above goes with (3a) above…………..not with (1) and (2) above.
You:
I hope you will look at the scriptures above, as being “baptized” in the Spirit for Paul and those at Pentecost had nothing to do with water. John baptized WITH water, they were baptized WITH the Spirit.
Me: I know that. I have always said that.
Being baptized with water is calling upon the Lord in repentance and showing that you accept the reality which comes next, the baptism of the holy spirit.Hi All,
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Me: We are washed from sin figuratively by the death of our Lord because he had shed his blood for us. The below link is a good article on the blood of the lamb and how it saves us.
https://unlockingthebible.org/2016/03/the-power-in-the-blood-of-jesus-christ/
Hi Jodi,
There are two resurrections 1000 years apart.
How? Not my field.
The Lord God can make sons of Abraham from these stones so why would you doubt a His abilities to raise the dead?
Hi Jodi,
The way is narrow and few choose it.
Though his death could save all there are the righteous demands of God to be met.
You must be born again.
Hi TC,
The blood of the paschal lamb put on the doorway saved the obedient Jews.
How tragic it would be if the saving blood of the lamb of God is ignored by this generation.
You must be baptised into his ghastly death to find life in the first resurrection.
Why do you call me LORD, LORD and not do what I say?
For if those did not escape when they refused Him who warned them on the earth, how much less shall we escape who turn away from Him Who warns from heaven?
Heb 12.25
What are you talking about Nick?
Have I not said even before my last post that Jesus died paying the penalty for all sin? Which obviously equates he died for sinners.
Didn’t I give the passage earlier that Paul was baptized with the Spirit. Haven’t I said multiple times that Paul was led by the Spirit and his hope was in mortality being swallowed up to life? I sure have! I have spoken quite often of Paul’s standard.
So this statement you gave to me, “If his standard does not approach yours then we must query your perceptions.” Is quite the load of massive garbage, lol! You crack me up!
How about your perception that baptism of the Holy Spirit means you are first baptized by water and then upon that you receive the Spirit, when according to the account at Pentecost and Paul’s baptism, water was not involved?
Tell me Nick, if being born of God means that you are no longer able to sin, when is it that people are actually born again of the water and of the Spirit?
Romans 7 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?”
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1 john 3:Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
1 Titus 2:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; 3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;
People are BORN again, being born of God, because His seed remains in them, His Seed is His word, and His word that He gave is eternal life. Eternal life remains in them, thus sin is destroyed. “The last enemy to be destroyed is death”, for when you have eternal life, you are not subjected to this enemy and his bondage that makes the flesh weak leading to temptation which leads to sin. The body of sin has been destroyed because death has been destroyed. In eternal life you are raised incorruptible, you are raised in glory, and you are raised in power, no longer able to sin.
Nick who said anything about doubting God’s ability to raise the dead?
You are seriously struggling to produce a credible argument to try and explain away the passages I have given that prove my points, so you are stumbling with absurd accusations that are directly contrary in all accounts of what I have said.
Think Nick,
If I have stated that it was through GOD and His Spirit anointing Jesus that made Jesus able to be the perfect sacrifice, and through that sacrifice he paid the penalty for all sin, and thus all could not be held to the punishment of sin, I wouldn’t be denying God’s ability now would I? It could not be more obvious that I believe then that the resurrection of both the just and the unjust is through God and His plan that He established through Christ.
We are not talking about whether or not He can do something it is through what that He does do it.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
The FACT is all have sinned and the penalty of sin is death. Christ paid the penalty for all sins, and thus not one person can be held to death, they are all resurrected. Some are resurrected into eternal life while others into judgement. If you want to say that God’s plan was not to raise the unjust through Christ paying the penalty for all sins, then give me a scripture.
If it was NOT because of Christ that all are made alive, would you like to tell me also that it was not through Adam that all became mortal, subjected to death?
Hi Jodi,
Hi Jodi,
You:
1 Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Me: This is true, but there is more to it.
Verse 23: But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Me: Everyone is not resurrected at the same time. We have gone over this before. I believe those that have died in Christ are resurrected in mind, heart and spirit when they die physical now. Then at the first resurrection, they receive their bodies. You believe this is all at the same time, at the first resurrection. But regardless, death is like a whisper gone by and the interpretation by you and me nets to the same thing.
What I want to address is two general resurrections, the first and the last.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Me “This is the first resurrection” does not pertain to after the thousand years in verse 5 but before the Thousand years in verse 4 when the saints begin to reign with Christ. Otherwise there is a contradiction between verse 4 and 5. The bible is not always in the order you expect, and the antecedent does not always come immediately before what it is addressing but could be even paragraphs apart. You have to study the context. I could go into that if you like, but it could be lengthy.
So this is how I see it:Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 This is the first resurrection. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished
Me: Then verse 6 falls into place.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
1 Cor 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Me: Christ the firstfruits pertains to Christ and the church as one. First fruits is plural. This is the first small harvest.
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Me: Without getting into the interpretation of “now is”, whether it addresses the saints of this present age or the resurrection individually now after Christ’s ascension is not what I am getting into now. The point is “they that hear” is not addressing everyone now.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Me: This occurs for everyone else not of the first resurrection and a thousand years after when Christ returns. The saints that rule with Christ are not in their graves when they do so.
P.S. Unless you really want to go over all that again which we had already in realms of paper.
Good Morning TC,
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
You: How can the dead saints in the OT be born of water?
ME: You are BORN of water and of the Spirit upon resurrection. To be Born of God we are told in 1 John 3 is to live having NO SIN. They will be born of water upon their resurrection because they died having FAITH. All saints are to receive the promise together upon Christ’s return.
As previously stated. Paul was baptized in the Spirit, not a baptism OF water that was John’s baptism, NO water was involved. This reception of the Spirit made Paul an apostle, it was to work in him his own faith and bring others to faith.
The Old Covenant the law, proved that no man could be righteous able to live without sin, no one could obtain eternal life through following the law, as the law just made sin abound all the more as Paul says.
The New Covenant was that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins, and if we have FAITH in him and believe that he was made perfect not able to sin, not through himself, but through the Spirit being given without measure, we will be resurrected as he was resurrected, into eternal life.
Paul received a gift of the Spirit, he did not receive the Spirit without measure where he remained without sin, he was NOT Born of God. On the contrary we are told by Paul that he still struggled with temptation and sin, and his hope was in his mortality body being swallowed up to life, so that he could finally a live a life without temptation. When Jesus was raised in an immortal body he no longer suffers with being able to be tempted. Paul’s longing for this body and his faith that through Christ he is able to receive it, counted him as being righteous, and thus able to obtain eternal life upon rising from the dead at Christ’s return.
John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly (heart) shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not_____glorified.)
ME: When Paul and others received the gifts of the Spirit it worked in them FAITH, and it is faith that saves them, they are saved from a rising to judgement. Through this Spirit they are indeed led to the water of the fountain of life, where upon rising from the dead they receive immortality, the body of sin is no more, they are Sons of God where God’s seed, His word of eternal life remains in them, and they are thus incapable of being tempted no longer having a weak body. They have been raised to glory and power, they have been raised to being a heavenly man, finally able to walk fully in God’s ways.
Ezk 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
You: The holy spirit was not given again from the conception of Christ till after he was resurrected from the dead (John 2:22). The holy spirit was not given with the promise of the human heart in it until Pentecost. In other words water is symbolizes the holy spirit. It symbolizes the holy spirit with the human heart of Christ in it after Pentecost.
Me: At Pentecost there was no water involved, people were not baptized WITH water, but WITH the Spirit. This is a baptism where you believe in the One Lord, One baptism (Jesus made into the Christ), where there is One Faith that saves you, and you live with One hope. Man is to walk in newness of life through faith, knowing that Jesus rose from the dead being Born of God, given a body that no longer tempts him, and we will receive that same body, where we are also no longer able to be tempted, and we can no longer sin. This is the glory that we are raised up in, to be children of God able to walk in His ways.
The Holy Spirit does represent the water of the fountain of life, for by God’s power He can make us immortal, causing us to walk perfectly in His ways. This is the ultimate gift. At Pentecost they did NOT receive this ultimate gift, they received other gifts, wisdom, knowledge, understanding, ability to heal, speak God’s words, they were made apostles, teachers, prophets, healers. All for the purpose of bringing man to FAITH NOT to bring them to be sinless, that is what occurs upon the resurrection. The Holy Spirit that they received certainly changed their hearts, it brought them to acknowledge their sins, to loath their bodies of weak flesh as Paul did. It caused their hearts to desire to be like Christ and deny their flesh and follow God’s will. However they were not Born of God as Jesus was born of God, they did not receive the Spirit without measure, to keep one perfect. They were counted as perfect through their faith. Jesus was tempted yet he remained without sin, they were tempted and they committed sin, when they did they repented and longed for the promise of a new body all the more.
ME: As we are told in Acts, David is still DEAD, he did not ascend to heaven, he died knowing that he would sleep the sleep of death until Christ’s return. The FAITH that he had counted him as worthy to obtain the promise.
New American Standard Bible
Acts 2:29 “Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.You: Most version do not have “is buried”
ME: the Greek word is thapto — to bury, inter
I just checked 38 versions and they all but one say buried, one says put in the earth.
This passage is clearly telling us that David is STILL DEAD. We are being told where he currently is, the passage even tells us that they know exactly where his body is as they know where his tomb is.
Acts 2:34 David didn’t go up to heaven. So he wasn’t talking about himself when he said, “The Lord told my Lord to sit at his right side,
You: Most version do not have: ” is not ascended into the heavens:
ME: I just read through 38 versions they all say once again the same thing that David did not ascend to heaven TC. What on earth are you talking about, how is it that you can come on this forum and clearly say something that is absolutely false, you say “most versions do not”, when the truth is all of the versions I was provided with in English actually do, all 38 of them!!
ascend Greek-anabaino– ascend
- to go up
- to rise, mount, be borne up, spring up
Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
You: All the saints from the OT forward had not received the “promise” yet until Pentecost.
ME: At Pentecost men who were ALIVE received a GIFT from the Spirit, they were led by the Spirit for the purpose to establish FAITH, to edify the body of Christ, to come together in Unity of FAITH believing that Jesus is the Son of God a perfect man. There is absolutely NO account that dead people came alive and received the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. NOW IS THERE TC? You are adding that in. We are given the account and there is NO mention of what you are saying.
The purpose of Christ was to lead people into believing in the One True God YHWH. For by FAITH in YHWH people are counted as righteous, and able to receive the promise of eternal life. Those in the OT will receive that promise of eternal life as they died already having faith in YHWH, they are able to rise to a resurrection because Christ paid for their sins, of which those such as David and Isaiah knew upon their death and had faith in. God had promised before He created the world eternal life to human beings, through Christ He is fulfilling that promise. God also promised Jesus that He would send his Spirit on Pentecost to his brethren, the purpose of this was to build their faith and lead others to faith in Christ, to build their faith that they too will obtain the Promise, to be resurrected into eternal life. To build their faith in God so they know that He keeps His promises.
Acts 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
YOU: The promise of the holy spirit, i.e. with the sacrifice of Christ in it was received after Pentecost by both the OT saints and NT saints, both those that were dead and those alive afterwards.
ME: You are confusing the promise God made of eternal life, to a different promise that God gave Jesus, that his brethren would receive a gift from the Spirit, and would be led by the Spirit into faith, so that in the resurrection they could obtain not judgement but eternal life. God has made many promises and He fulfills them all, you speak as if there just must be one promise.
You are twisting scripture and clearly denying certain passages.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
Paul received the Spirit, he was not made PERFECT by that Spirit, he was made an apostle by that Spirit. You are not made perfect until you receive a body that cannot be tempted that cannot sin. Paul in fact still lived facing temptation. Paul’s hope was in receiving the promise of eternal life, which he would receive at Christ’s second coming.
1 Thess 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
TC, this is how down right absurd your understanding is, the ABOVE passage was not only written AFTER Paul BECAME an apostle, but it states that the dead rise from their sleep at Christ’s second coming. Hebrews 11 is obviously speaking of the promise of eternal life, not a promise of Christ’s followers who would receive the Spirit at Pentecost. You likewise deny the scriptures that say that Jesus rose to glory, he rose incorruptible, he rose in power, NOT he ascended to heaven afterwards and received glory. Just because the promise at Pentecost was to occur after he had ascended, doesn’t equate to him receiving his glory when he ascended, he had already received it and people were witnesses. Did you ever think that they received the Spirit on Pentecost as that was a Holy Day established after Exodus that would have a future fulfillment like all other Holy Days do? Jesus knew when Pentecost was coming it’s on a certain day according to God’s calendar, so knowing when it was time for him to ascend and knowing the time of Pentecost, he told his brethren that this promise would not come until after he had ascended.
Acts 13:36 “Now when David had served God’s purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his ancestors and his body decayed.
9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. 10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
David knew that he would rise again from the dead. David is of them which are asleep that will rise at Christ’s second coming to receive the promise of eternal life, the water of the fountain of life, where you are Born of God, a child of God incapable of sin.
Hi TC,
I have never said that everyone is resurrected at the same time, the unjust I have said are resurrected 1,000 after the first resurrection which occurs at Christs second coming as we are clearly told in Thess 4.
What we are told is that the saints of the OT, and the Saints of Paul’s day and the Saints alive now who might die before Christ’s return, SLEEP the sleep of death, and they are NOT to receive the promise of eternal life apart from each other, they receive it together when Christ’s descends. Just these are changed, then those still alive in Christ are changed meeting him in the air to forever be with him.
Hi TC,
I can say that I do not think I have encountered someone who treats scripture so poorly as you do.
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.Two things here Christ in verse 20 himself ALONE is identified as the firstfruits, and guess what it is in relation specifically to the time he rose from the dead, NOT after when he ascended many days later to heaven. This verse speaks of him being the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep, he is the first, it was JUST him, others did not receive eternal life when he did.21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.Verse 23 is speaking of Christ ALONE, this is obvious not only because of verse 20 but this verse itself. The saints are those that are his are they not? Those that are his receive eternal life at his second coming. This fits exactly with the other passages you twist or deny. This fits with the end of the chapter.
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.How absurd can your understanding be TC, this is Paul speaking. He is not a Saint? So there are Saints but then there are those that are Christ’s? Are they NOT ALL Christ’s? YES they are, and they would not receive the promise apart from each other.As said, this is Paul speaking, the one who received the Spirit and became an apostle, the one that was still able to be tempted that desired a body without sin. He says here that he will receive that body long after Christ received it. He says WE WILL BE CHANGED. Paul sleeps the sleep of death, he died believing in the promise. His baptism into an apostle had nothing to do with being baptized into water, or becoming some spirit being when he died, where he then would receive later an immortal body. This entire chapters speaks of being raised from the dead into eternal life, as Jesus was.Jesus as the firstfruits was the first man to receive a body of eternal life. You say that others also became firstfruits, that would equate to them also receiving a body of eternal life would it not? However Paul states that he is NOT changed into an immortal body until Christ’s second coming. The message of this chapter is that we believe that Christ did in fact rise from the dead and that he rose with power, with glory, with an incorruptible body. NOT that he later received it, he received it exactly how we are to receive it, upon rising from the dead. Jesus was not raised up into heaven receiving his glory, he was raised up from the dead receiving it. As we are told how are the dead raised, with what body do they come? This entire chapter is about RISING from the dead, NOTHING about rising to heaven in order for Jesus to receive something.Hi Jodi,
The fountain wells up to eternal life in those who wisely build on the investment God entrusted them with.
Those sons of the resurrection are revealed to all creation when the Master returns.
Hi Nick,
They cannot “wisely” build on anything unless God gives them the wisdom to do so!
The Sons of the resurrection are indeed revealed because upon the second coming of Christ that is when they are created.
Hi Jodi,
Those who come to Jesus are given the opportunity to BECOME children of God. Jn 1.12
The Sons of God are created at the resurrection?
No. That is when they are REVEALED.
Rom 8.19
Hi Nick, you are Correct. We are called the sons of God now because we are born of the spirit and “water”. This is not the physical water. I will get back to this on the weekend.
Hi Jodi,
The death of Jesus washed nobody clean.
Nick
“and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin” (1 John 1:7)
Yes, when Jesus died he paid the penalty for our sins which was death. This is why we are also told that “in Adam all die, so in Christ all shall be made alive.”
We were not made immortals upon his death, but as he could not be held to the punishment of sin which is death, we too are not held to the penalty of sin which is death. In Christ all shall be made alive in their own order, first the just then 1,000 years later the unjust.
God likewise will give mercy to all, He will refine all men, for He will judge and give according to their works, each will be taught by God (that is His calling where He has mercy on the ignorant creature, the human being and fills them with knowledge and wisdom and thus brings them into repentance). They will come to Paul’s same conclusion that they are themselves wretched men who apart from God giving His gifts they are but dogs returning after their own vomit. They too will discover their nakedness and their shame and be brought to repentance, and thus the wicked will be no more, the earth will be filled with the knowledge of God, all evil doers will have been cast into the fire, refined, made holy, all evil is consumed, burnt off, there will be no more liars, deceivers, thieves, murderers, …
Romans 11:28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
As God can REFINE one man through casting him into the fire, He has the power to refine them all, because God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable, when they are given without measure they work perfection, they are a more powerful influence over weak flesh and the carnal mind, as God’s ways are higher than ours, and His thoughts higher than ours.
JUST as YOU walked in disobedience but now have received mercy they who walk in disobedience shall ALSO be given mercy. What would be the point of raising the unjust from the dead, just to bring them to death again? The purpose of the unjust being raised to life again, is exactly because of ROMANS 11, we are given the reason WHY the unjust are raised to judgement! As YOU were disobedient and were given mercy, now is the time that the rest of mankind will be given mercy, they are cast in the fire, they are refined, they will loath themselves, become repentant, they will gnash their teeth and weep recognizing their own filth, and they will call on the LORD and desire Him. The wicked are no more, they have all been destroyed through God’s mercy, because He “desires all men to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
Isaiah 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him.
If God says let the wicked forsake his way, he will forsake his way, because God’s thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways are better then our ways. The lake of fire, and the second death is the final destruction of sin within mankind.
Be NOT SELF-RIGHTEOUS
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please.
1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
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