Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #372273
    terraricca
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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2014,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2014,00:33)
    IT IS YOUR DEDUCTION THAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT '

    AND YET THE THIEF WAS NOT BAPTIZE IN WATER ,CORNELIUS RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHOUT THE WATER BAPTISM ,AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GENTILES IN ACT 15 DOES NOT MENTION THAT IT WAS A REQUIREMENT ,

    BUT A CHANGE IN HEART IS REQUIRED ,THE RIGHTEOUSNESS IS REQUIRED ,TO FOLLOW THE TRUTH IS REQUIRED,THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS IS REQUIRED, THE WORSHIP OF GOD IN TRUTH AND SPIRIT IS REQUIRED ;

    ALL THOSE ARE WELL CLEARLY EXPRESSED AND ARE ALL RELATED TO GOOD WORKS ,

    WATER BAPTISM SEEMS TO BE FROM JOHN THE BAPTIST  AND FOR THE JEWS ,THE ONES THAT ARE INVITED INTO THE 144K CLASS


    T,

    Have you not read that King Saul received the Spirit?

    1 Samuel 10:6
    1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    6 Then the Spirit of the Lord will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.

    Which covenant do you believe he was under?


    K

    yes Saul was changed ,,but he could not keep the change so he lost it ,

    many received the seed of truth but how many can really keep it ???

    #372274
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Even rocks can cry out.
    But men stop their ears

    #372279
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,03:03)
    Hi T,
    Even rocks can cry out.
    But men stop their ears


    Nick

    are you talking about yourself ???

    #372285
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Whom do you follow?

    #372288
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,04:07)
    Hi T,
    Whom do you follow?


    hi Nick

    I follow the scriptures ,the son of God and God 's words ,

    what do you follow ???

    #372319
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The Son of God went through the water to fulfil all righteousness.
    But you do not need to?

    #372324
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,05:46)
    Hi T,
    The Son of God went through the water to fulfil all righteousness.
    But you do not need to?


    Nick

    please explain this

    #372331
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You said water just makes you wet
    Peter gave a different aspect of it's importance to God in his first letter

    #372334
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,06:40)
    Hi T,
    You said water just makes you wet
    Peter gave a different aspect of it's importance to God in his first letter


    Nick

    why you do not answer my question ???

    #372340
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    What question?

    #372341
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,07:49)
    Hi T,
    What question?


    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,05:46)
    Hi T,
    The Son of God went through the water to fulfil all righteousness.
    But you do not need to?

    Nick

    please explain this

    #372344
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    If you can explain why you said water only makes you wet we can.

    #372347
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2014,13:29)

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2014,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 03 2014,00:33)
    IT IS YOUR DEDUCTION THAT SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT '

    AND YET THE THIEF WAS NOT BAPTIZE IN WATER ,CORNELIUS RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHOUT THE WATER BAPTISM ,AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GENTILES IN ACT 15 DOES NOT MENTION THAT IT WAS A REQUIREMENT ,

    BUT A CHANGE IN HEART IS REQUIRED ,THE RIGHTEOUSNESS IS REQUIRED ,TO FOLLOW THE TRUTH IS REQUIRED,THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS IS REQUIRED, THE WORSHIP OF GOD IN TRUTH AND SPIRIT IS REQUIRED ;

    ALL THOSE ARE WELL CLEARLY EXPRESSED AND ARE ALL RELATED TO GOOD WORKS ,

    WATER BAPTISM SEEMS TO BE FROM JOHN THE BAPTIST  AND FOR THE JEWS ,THE ONES THAT ARE INVITED INTO THE 144K CLASS


    T,

    Have you not read that King Saul received the Spirit?

    1 Samuel 10:6
    1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

    6 Then the Spirit of the Lord will come upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.

    Which covenant do you believe he was under?


    K

    and we know how he changed to his old self later right ???


    T,

    He chose wickedness though he was inconsistent in it.

    The question I asked what what covenant was he under when the Spirit came on him and he told prophecy?

    #372349
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You are right that it is repentance that God wants.
    The meaning of baptism is in 1 Peter

    #372352
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Baptism mean submerged but in water makes you wet ,but in the scriptures what is the word of God will bring you live,

    Now submerge our selves into God,s knowledge will make us righteous ,holy,faithful ,truthful,and bring us to be born of the spirit what is fund in scriptures ,and please God by applying what he as given us ,

    Is this not what those Jews in Act 2 at Pentecost had and so receive the Holy Spirit wen they were baptized ,only Jews were part of the covenant of God ,so they ad to repent ,but the 3000 Jews ad a repented heart,after they heard Peter talk,

    Gentiles did not know Jehovah like the Jews knew him so they had to learn immerge themselves into the study of his word,and accept the covenant of life ofert to them,through the blood of Christ,
    And Paul explain this in Gal: about to follow the fruits of the spirit rather than the flesh .

    #372354
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Are you saying water baptism was only for the Jews?

    Feeding on the Word is vital but SEEK YE ” FIRST” THE KINGDOM.[mat 6]

    ALL must repent [lk 13.5]

    ALL must go through the GATE [Mt 7.13]

    #372359
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Is there a gospel addressed to the Gentiles ???

    #372362
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Was the gospel taken to the gentiles?
    lk2.32
    Rom 11.11
    Gal 1.16
    ACTS

    #372370
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2014,08:57)
    Hi T,
    Was the gospel taken to the gentiles?
    lk2.32
    Rom 11.11
    Gal 1.16
    ACTS


    Nick

    Are not the Gentiles like a extended family to the Jews

    #372381
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    What relevance would that have?
    In Christ there is no difference between Jew and Gentile

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