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Romans 11:33-36
33 O, the depth of the riches and the wisdom and the knowledge of God! How inscrutable are His judgments, and untraceable His ways!
34 For, who knew the mind of the Lord? or, who became His adviser?
35 or, who gives to Him first, and it will be repaid Him?
36 seeing that out of Him and through Him and for Him is all: to Him be the glory for the eons! Amen!1 Corinthians 8:5-7
5 For even if so be that there are those being termed gods, whether in heaven or on earth, even as there are many gods and many lords,
6 nevertheless for us there is one God, the Father, out of Whom all is, and we for Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom all is, and we through Him.
7 But not in all is there this knowledge. Now some, used hitherto to the idol, are eating of it as an idol sacrifice, and their conscience, being weak, is being polluted.2 Corinthians 5:17-21
17 So that, if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation: the primitive passed by. Lo! there has come new!
18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
20 For Christ, then, are we ambassadors, as of God entreating through us. We are beseeching for Christ's sake, “Be conciliated to God!”
21 For the One not knowing sin, He makes to be a sin offering for our sakes that we may be becoming God's righteousness in Him.Is all of God? It seems to me that when God says in Ephesians 1:11
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials, in Christ,
4 according as He chooses us in Him before the disruption of the world, we to be holy and flawless in His sight,
5 in love designating us beforehand for the place of a son for Him through Christ Jesus; in accord with the delight of His will,
6 for the laud of the glory of His grace, which graces us in the Beloved:
7 in Whom we are having the deliverance through His blood, the forgiveness of offenses in accord with the riches of His grace,
8 which He lavishes on us; in all wisdom and prudence
9 making known to us the secret of His will (in accord with His delight, which He purposed in Him)
10 to have an administration of the complement of the eras, to head up all in the Christ — both that in the heavens and that on the earth —
11 in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,that He is in complete control. Would anyone like to comment on this, it seems so many think we have “free will”,
but these scriptures seem to show otherwise. All comments will be welcomed.Thank you.
Hi CO,
The letters of Paul were only to the saved.
You should correctly cut truth and not apply them to the sinful world.Hi CO,
Did Paul bring a new gospel of automatic salvation for the gentiles?
Can the Jews not be saved?
What of those who are to be cast into the fire?
Are they not included in the all of this new gospel?I've answered these questions numerous times. Why keep on asking, you can't seem to understand, just keep going in circles. Forget your 'gospel of Nick', study the scriptures and pray for understanding.
Hi CO,
There is one eternal gospel of Christ.
Gentiles grafted into the olive tree of Israel.
If Israel has no hope what is the use of the graft?You keep repeating this “eternal” gospel. Please, please, show some scripture declaring this “eternal gospel”. (I won't hold my breath).
Just as I expected, no 'gospel of Nick', or 'eternal gospel' scripture.
I'm sure that you must have enough of your own gospel to write your own bible by now.Hi CO,
The same gospel preached by Christ and the apostles to the Jews was taken to the gentiles.
Peter preached it at Pentecost.
One eternal gospel of repentance unto salvation, not two.
Acts 15:7
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe
Romans 1:1
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Romans 1:9
For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;Paul was called to “complete the word of God”. If it wasn't complete before, how could it be the 'same' gospel?
Of course I know I won't recieve an answer, never do when I show you that your are wrong.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2007,17:42) Just as I expected, no 'gospel of Nick', or 'eternal gospel' scripture.
I'm sure that you must have enough of your own gospel to write your own bible by now.Hi CO,
The same gospel preached by Christ and the apostles to the Jews was taken to the gentiles.
Peter preached it at Pentecost.
One eternal gospel of repentance unto salvation, not two.
Acts 15:7
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe
Romans 1:1
Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Romans 1:9
For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;
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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,07:19) Hi CO,
Scripture please.
You have a very short memory for scripture you don't agree with. I had already answered with scripture before. So here it is again,
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The gospel did change, it was not completed until Paul did it. See Col.1:25, …which I (paul) became a dispenser in accord with the administration of God, which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God- the secret which has been concealed from the eons and the generations, yet now was made manifest to His saints, to whom God wills to make known what are the glorious riches of this secret among the nations, which is: Christ among you, the expectation of glory-… I'll let you read the rest of this scripture yourself, you will find it very interesting, not known or preached by Jesus, till it has been made known by God through Paul. Keep listening, correctly cut the word of truth, you will catch on soon, By the “Grace of God”.Blessings.
Hi CO,
You say
“The gospel did change,”Gal 1
” 6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Paul indeed wrote to those saved in Christ in Col1
23If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
24Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:”
Christ was in them , the hope of glory.
Christ is not in everyone.
That is folly.Nick.
Now that I have given you the scripture you requested, (Col.1:25) Now maybe you will answer the question: If Paul was commissined to “complete the word of God”, then how could the new be the same as the old?
As usual, you won't answer this question, after you were proved wrong. Or you will answer with another question, evading your response to the question.Hi CO,
As Peter taught the saved they are reborn of the seed of the gospel21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
So those who have not heard the gospel cannot be reborn of this seed.
They are not in Christ and he is not in them.The land must be ploughed before seed is sown otherwise it remains useless growing thorns and weeds.
Jer4
“23I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.24I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
27For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.”
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,10:36) Hi CO,
You say
“The gospel did change,”Gal 1
” 6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Paul indeed wrote to those saved in Christ in Col1
23If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
24Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:”
Christ was in them , the hope of glory.
Christ is not in everyone.
That is folly.
Yes, Paul calls this 'new' evangel, the one he is preaching, the same one that says “to complete the word of God”. Notice the one you 'quote':verse 8: But if ever WE also, or a messenger out of heaven, should be bringing an evangel to you beside that which WE bring to you, let him be anathema!
Paul is saying “WE”, meaning he and his apostles, the evangel that “completed the word of God”. The COMPLETED EVANGEL. Not the old!
You have to understand what you read, and not try to twist it to suit “your evangel”.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2007,10:43) Hi CO,
As Peter taught the saved they are reborn of the seed of the gospel21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
So those who have not heard the gospel cannot be reborn of this seed.
They are not in Christ and he is not in them.The land must be ploughed before seed is sown otherwise it remains useless growing thorns and weeds.
Jer4
“23I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.24I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
27For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.
28For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.”
Pauls epistles were for the Nations, not Peters.
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