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Quote (Baker @ Mar. 08 2011,14:35) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 06 2011,23:59) Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 04 2011,08:34) Theodore, I was reading, the early church 'fathers' writings seems to suggest they believed (120ad-ish) that the 'restrainer' Paul was talking of was Rome. And they believed Rome would break off into ten kingdoms (from) the broken Rome. And that the antichrist would come from among these ten kingdoms or nations.
What were these ten kingdoms? if you know.
I tried to look into this ages ago but got confused.
Greetings K…. I would think that the emergence of the Holy Roman Empire has occurred several times before, six to be exact, and the seventh is upon us and present in modern day Western Europe the element which is not present yet is the presense of the Universally accepted religion, IMO the profile of this religion fits that of the Roman Catholic Church with its alledged devinly appointed head..The ten nations will emerge from the European Union of which Germany is clearly the decisive economic leader….I believe the EU presently consists of 14 member nations with numerous applicants(eg Turkey)which are being considered for membership the emergense of final ten I believe is going to be the result of the present economic dilema the EU is struggling with…
Theo. and karmaria! That is not going to happen. It will be the Arab nations that will go against Israel. They hate the Jewish people more then the Germans do today. There final judgment from God. The United Nations are far more powerful then the European Nations are. That was Mr. Armstrong's teaching. And if you payed attention lately they are starting right now….Israel also will drill for Oil, and if that happens, and America will get their oil from them, IMO and Georg's all hell will break loose….Watch Glenn Beck He has said this before, that the Gas prizes will go up, and so will all Food and any material goods. More then double if not triple. Watch the Housing Market. They are in the process of eliminating all 30 year Loans. If you have a fixed Loan your save, if you can effort the mortgage…..
IMO God will strike this nation also this time. They have gone against Israel, and look at Hollywood…the filt,,,,,at the end time, the Scriptures say it will be worse then it was in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Peace Irene
Greetings Irene….. I have been watching Glenn Beck for some time now and I must say he is an excellent source of information he has access to talented researchers….The problem I have with Glenn is his spiritual slant in his commentary….The last thing this world needs now is more confusion least of all from a Prime Time self appointed televangelist…Glenn would be wise to stick to the educational aspect of his show and leave the preaching and evangelizing to those whose appoinment comes from a spiritual source…I share in his acknowledgement of the creator as well as his deference….when he incorporates sprituality into his reporting of the facts he loses a great deal of the potency of his message….Let us not forget he knows no more than any other mortal and just as we do on this platform he can only offer an opinion…Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 08 2011,23:18) Quote (Baker @ Mar. 08 2011,14:35) Quote (theodorej @ Mar. 06 2011,23:59) Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 04 2011,08:34) Theodore, I was reading, the early church 'fathers' writings seems to suggest they believed (120ad-ish) that the 'restrainer' Paul was talking of was Rome. And they believed Rome would break off into ten kingdoms (from) the broken Rome. And that the antichrist would come from among these ten kingdoms or nations.
What were these ten kingdoms? if you know.
I tried to look into this ages ago but got confused.
Greetings K…. I would think that the emergence of the Holy Roman Empire has occurred several times before, six to be exact, and the seventh is upon us and present in modern day Western Europe the element which is not present yet is the presense of the Universally accepted religion, IMO the profile of this religion fits that of the Roman Catholic Church with its alledged devinly appointed head..The ten nations will emerge from the European Union of which Germany is clearly the decisive economic leader….I believe the EU presently consists of 14 member nations with numerous applicants(eg Turkey)which are being considered for membership the emergense of final ten I believe is going to be the result of the present economic dilema the EU is struggling with…
Theo. and karmaria! That is not going to happen. It will be the Arab nations that will go against Israel. They hate the Jewish people more then the Germans do today. There final judgment from God. The United Nations are far more powerful then the European Nations are. That was Mr. Armstrong's teaching. And if you payed attention lately they are starting right now….Israel also will drill for Oil, and if that happens, and America will get their oil from them, IMO and Georg's all hell will break loose….Watch Glenn Beck He has said this before, that the Gas prizes will go up, and so will all Food and any material goods. More then double if not triple. Watch the Housing Market. They are in the process of eliminating all 30 year Loans. If you have a fixed Loan your save, if you can effort the mortgage…..
IMO God will strike this nation also this time. They have gone against Israel, and look at Hollywood…the filt,,,,,at the end time, the Scriptures say it will be worse then it was in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Peace Irene
Greetings Irene….. I have been watching Glenn Beck for some time now and I must say he is an excellent source of information he has access to talented researchers….The problem I have with Glenn is his spiritual slant in his commentary….The last thing this world needs now is more confusion least of all from a Prime Time self appointed televangelist…Glenn would be wise to stick to the educational aspect of his show and leave the preaching and evangelizing to those whose appoinment comes from a spiritual source…I share in his acknowledgement of the creator as well as his deference….when he incorporates sprituality into his reporting of the facts he loses a great deal of the potency of his message….Let us not forget he knows no more than any other mortal and just as we do on this platform he can only offer an opinion…
Theo. Since you have been watching Glenn then you should also know, that what He has said about the economy two years ago has come to pass. As far as His belief in God, I rather have Him, then some on HN who don't even belief Satan is real. In fact He has told people to get back with God, and I find nothing wrong with that. Everything else about the Middle East is not from Glenn.
That is what Georg has studied. He has a good knowledge of Ancient History. Glenn does not talk about any kind of Prophecy, I have no idea where you got that from……If Glenn would do that on a regular basis, Georg would be the first one to turn Him of…..Georg does not like that either. Glenn has people working for Him ,that have knowledge of the inside of our Government. To put Him down like you just did, does not fit to well with me…..
Peace Irene
Peace IreneGreetings Irene ….Iam not putting anyone down…Iam simply saying that Beck is an investigative journalist NOT a cleric….As long as we are on the subject I find it kind of odd that the entire staff of television celebrities at Fox refuse to address the question of our leaders constitutional obligation to be a natural born citizen….This is an issue that can be resolved so easy….all the media needs to do is simply ask “May we see your Birth Certificate sir?” A direct result of Foxs' deriliction of duty to the public is allowing this issue to go unresolved and that to me is dishonesty…Beck and O'Reilly are the principal offenders because they command the largest viewing audiance….Instead of asking the hard question,they have elected to barade those proponants that want this issue resolved….
ENOUGH, The beast in revelation is the political system, all mythical beasts in the bible are represented by political systems and world powers, it's all over Daniel. 6 is one number short of prefection so 6 times 3 might represent gross imperfection. I saw a picture inside the U.N. behind the heads where 3 giant 6's on banners. Coindence
I personally believe the image is Nationalism for what else is promoted to worship the political systems?
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