In jesus' name

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 21 2010,16:13)

Are you giving ideas to WJ?

Not at all, for he believes the Holy Spirit is the Father and that Jesus is 1/2 God!

WJ

[Ed J]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,08:13)

ED J, And what was the point of the parable: I didn't get it? when he Died on the cross because he was Half Man and half God and it was the Man part that died but the God part lived on?

Hi JustAskin,

The Point of the Parable is: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”!

Those stats were when Jesus was born; read this Post…
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….4;st=70

Gal.1:1 Paul, an apostle…by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him (Jesus) from the dead;
You should get “Bible Truth” from “The Bible”!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2010,08:56)

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 21 2010,16:13) Are you giving ideas to WJ? Not at all, for he believes the Holy Spirit is the Father and that Jesus is 1/2 God! WJ

Hi WJ,

You are Speaking of Jesus birth, don't forget about his baptism…

“The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John;
He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit)
caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit)
also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind!
This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14)

Col.119 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ).

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

just ask

do you know how many lies it takes to be out of course ?i mean so that you can built a tower on the base,

[JustAskin]

Terra, my friend,
No, I do not know but is it One?
But to what are you refering?

[JustAskin]

WJ,
Response to my questions: I'm excited already – Please make it worthwhile!

[terraricca]

JA
yes your right just one,now to prove my point see Gen3, were the devil put one lie forth and now look at the mess we are in,right.

now all the bases of religion are based the same way on one lie,they have built there so called doctrines and created a tower,
all those towers will be destroyed by Christ because there is only one truth,
not two,so unless you do not go ashtray in your believes and stay with the truth you will live in the freedom of Christ

Lk 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to release the oppressed

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives

Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

Eph 3:12 In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence.

you see we have to stay at all times connected to Christ teachings,and never let any one to turn us away from it by ;2Pe 2:19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.
2PE 1:8 For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

for this we have to stay in Christ spirit because this is pleasing his father.our only one true God,

[KangarooJack]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,07:45)

TT your interpretation of Rom 8;9,is not correct ,you just look to find a way to argue,i know you know very well what that scripture says and do not say. you are a well educated person this is a game to you ,i can not believe other wise,? but it could be ,…

t,

You always say that this I say is wrong or that I say is not correct but you never show it. Paul said,

But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

This clearly means that the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. Now PROVE me wrong! Hundreds of people read these posts daily. You can't convince them if you don't PROVE what you say.

thinker

[terraricca]

TT
if every time someone twist a scripture and then turn around and ask me to respond and correct it,
sorry this is not the way it should be done .
do know the story about the 10 virgin that Christ told, i sure you know it ,how come only 5 were accepted?? and why??

[KangarooJack]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,11:50)

TT if every time someone twist a scripture and then turn around and ask me to respond and correct it, sorry this is not the way it should be done . do know the story about the 10 virgin that Christ told, i sure you know it ,how come only 5 were accepted?? and why??

What scripture “twisting” are you talking about? Paul said that the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. You're just dodging the point. Paul said that God sent forth the Spirit OF HIS SON into our hearts:

And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit OF HIS SON into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!” Galatians 4:6

Am I “twisting” this scripture too? Do you deny that the Spirit that causes you to cry “Abba Father” is the Spirit of Christ?

Just how many scriptures are you going to trash? Do you read the WHOLE Bible or just parts of it?

thinker

[terraricca]

TT
you are a very intelligent man,well educated ,you are certainly more eloquent than i,
so you understand English better than i do ,i have to read most in another language,
“”And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit OF HIS SON into your hearts””
what you think is required to be a son of God ?
and what is the spirit of his son???
and why is it send to the hearth?
and why does it calls out'”” the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.” ??
and what ABBA FATHER mean,???

i am sure you can answer those questions no real secrete,
so do your home work , TT,

[KangarooJack]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,14:44)

TT you are a very intelligent man,well educated ,you are certainly more eloquent than i, so you understand English better than i do ,i have to read most in another language, “”And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit OF HIS SON into your hearts”” what you think is required to be a son of God ? and what is the spirit of his son??? and why is it send to the hearth? and why does it calls out'”” the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.” ?? and what ABBA FATHER mean,??? i am sure you can answer those questions no real secrete, so do your home work , TT,

t,

Let's review a brief history of our exchange. In the original post I gave the word of Jesus when He said that the Father would send the Holy Spirit “in My name”. This means “on My authority”.

You denied this saying that the Holy Spirit is the Father's and not Christ's. Then I gave Romans 8:9 which says that the Holy Spirit is God's and Christ's. You said that I was “twisting” that scripture.

Now I have given you Paul's word that God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts crying, “Abba Father” (Galatians 4:6). You reply with a series of questions that have nothing to do with the point. Paul said that it is the Spirit OF HIS SON that lives in our hearts and causes us to cry “Abba Father.” Therefore, the Holy Spirit is Christ's Spirit.

Would you like for me to send you a case of “White Out” so you can paint over Paul's words?

thinker

[JustAskin]

Terra,

Are you saying that I have said something incorrect. Believe me I will humbly accept correction because I think you have the Truth in you.

[terraricca]

JA
no ,not at all,it was not addressed to you,

[terraricca]

TT
you have the habit of asking questions,i learn from you ,

unless you explain me what the spirit of Christ “means ,or what you understand what it is ??
i can't help you for a answer,you keep flipping from one to the other.
so define what it is first ,then we can built up from there if you want to,

[KangarooJack]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2010,08:09)

TT you have the habit of asking questions,i learn from you , unless you explain me what the spirit of Christ “means ,or what you understand what it is ?? i can't help you for a answer,you keep flipping from one to the other. so define what it is first ,then we can built up from there if you want to,

t,

Don't play dumb.

thinker

[terraricca]

TT

if you not answering i cannot explain it to you ,because if i did you know very well you come back to me twisting my views ,if you show me yours you know i will use them in my demonstration ,as a smart man you do not want to be cut in that position,i think

and you may be right i may be dumb.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2010,08:09)

TT you have the habit of asking questions,i learn from you , unless you explain me what the spirit of Christ “means ,or what you understand what it is ?? i can't help you for a answer,you keep flipping from one to the other. so define what it is first ,then we can built up from there if you want to,

t,

When are you going to reply to my point that Paul said that it is the Spirit OF HIS SON that is in our hearts crying “Abba Father.”

Yet you deny that the Holy spirit is the Son's and you deny that Jesus explicitly said that the Father would send the Spirit according to the Son's will.

thinker

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 03 2010,10:16)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2010,08:09) TT you have the habit of asking questions,i learn from you , unless you explain me what the spirit of Christ “means ,or what you understand what it is ?? i can't help you for a answer,you keep flipping from one to the other. so define what it is first ,then we can built up from there if you want to, t, When are you going to reply to my point that Paul said that it is the Spirit OF HIS SON that is in our hearts crying “Abba Father.” Yet you deny that the Holy spirit is the Son's and you deny that Jesus explicitly said that the Father would send the Spirit according to the Son's will. thinker

Jack

Eactly!

Jesus upholds all things by the word of his power, (Heb 1:3), and by him all things consist, (Col 1:17), and he also fills all things, (Col 3:11), and it is he that said he would never leave us, (Matt 28:20), and it is he that also dwells in the hearts and spirits of every believer, (2 Cor 13:5) having fellowship with them all at the same time, (1 John 1:3), and it is he that at this time is not yet subject to the Father, (1 Cor 15:28), and it is he that we give honor to with the same honor we give the Father, (John 5:23) and it is he that has ALL Authority and Power, (Matt 8:18),!

Yet the view of many sees him as a little man with his Father holding his hands like a puppet on a string!

Anti-Trintarian view—–> little Jesus!

Trinitarian view———>Infinitely Big Jesus

Blessings WJ

[NickHassan]

Hi,
God gives without repentance.[Rom11.29]
He gave of His Holy Spirit to the fulness to His mongenes Son.
His Spirit in Christ is the Spirit of Christ and in a wider sense the Spirit in the prophets[1Peter1, rev19]

Unless you grasp this Romans 8 seems to speak of several spirits but the Spirit is One.

[Author]

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