If jesus was crucified there is no atonement

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    bodhitharta
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    Leviticus 16:7-11 (King James Version)

    7And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

    8And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.

    9And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD's lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.

    10But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.

    If the scapegoat is killed there could be no atonement this is why most of you don't understand here and this why most don't understand why Jesus was baptized he was baptized not for any sins he commited because he didn't sin he was baptized to carry the sins of those who believe in him Jesus is the scapegoat and was presented to God Alive.

    Jesus said clearly that his mission was complete without the cross/crucifixion

    I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
    John 17:3-5

    John 17:3-5 (King James Version)

    3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

    #214086
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everyone,

    BD's mind is confused from reading the quran; so confused he worships satan!

    Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given
    it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls:
    for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
    Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and
    to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath
    made you overseers, to feed the church of God,
    which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    Matt.26:28: For this is my blood of the new testament,
       which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    Heb.9:22: And almost all things are by the law purged
    with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
    Romans 5:11: And not only so, but we also joy in God through our
    Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received THE ATONEMENT.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #214087
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Everybody,

    The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
    It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.

    Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
    into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
    be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
    or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
    preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
    man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
    ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #214094
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2010,21:12)
    Hi Everyone,

    BD's mind is confused from reading the quran; so confused he worships satan!

    Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given
    it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls:
    for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
    Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and
    to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath
    made you overseers, to feed the church of God,
    which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    Matt.26:28: For this is my blood of the new testament,
       which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    Heb.9:22: And almost all things are by the law purged
    with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
    Romans 5:11: And not only so, but we also joy in God through our
    Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received THE ATONEMENT.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Leviticus 17:10-12 (Young's Literal Translation)

    10`And any man of the house of Israel, or of the sojourners, who is sojourning in your midst, who eateth any blood, I have even set My face against the person who is eating the blood, and have cut him off from the midst of his people;

    11for the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar, to make atonement for your souls; for it [is] the blood which maketh atonement for the soul.

    12`Therefore I have said to the sons of Israel, No person among you doth eat blood, and the sojourner who is sojourning in your midst doth not eat blood;

    You see you don't know the scriptures Leviticus 17:11 is explaining that blood is not for eating or drinking but for atonement.

    Now let me explain a little something else to you

    “11for the life of the flesh is in the blood”

    So living FLESH has it's blood in it.

    John 6:55-61 (King James Version)

    55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

    56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

    57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

    now did Jesus want them to actually Eat his fleah and Drink his Blood? No he wanted them to accept his life

    John 6:60-63 (King James Version)

    60Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

    61When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

    62What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

    63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    If the flesh profiteth nothing how can sacrificing that flesh profit anyone?

    I am teaching you great things by the Power of God's Holy Spirit but if you cannot put your dislike of me aside how will you then learn

    #214095
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2010,21:12)
    Hi Everybody,

    The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
    It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.

    Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
    into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
    be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
    or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
    preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
    man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
    ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
    Romans 9:2-4

    Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
    2 Timothy 2:7-9

    Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
    Romans 1:2-4

    Get knowledge:

    If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
    Matthew 22:44-46

    David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?
    Luke 20:43-45

    David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.
    Mark 12:36-38

    #214186
    942767
    Participant

    Hi BD:

    Please read and ask God for understanding:

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    Hebrews 9
    1Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

    2For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.

    3And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;

    4Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

    5And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.

    6Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.

    7But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

    8The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

    9Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

    10Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

    11But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

    12Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

    13For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

    14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

    17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

    18Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

    19For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

    20Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

    21Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

    22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

    23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

    24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

    25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

    26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

    27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #214220
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ Aug. 28 2010,12:20)
    Hi BD:

    Please read and ask God for understanding:

    Quote
    Hebrews 9
    1Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

    2For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.

    3And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;

    4Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

    5And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.

    6Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.

    7But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

    8The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

    9Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

    10Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

    11But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

    12Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

    13For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

    14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

    17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

    18Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

    19For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

    20Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

    21Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

    22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

    23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

    24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

    25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

    26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

    27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Christ was offered up to who by who?

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