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Quote (soxan @ Oct. 27 2005,00:43) They thought? Just how low is your i.q.? Nick. But your i.q. is not at issue, it`s your credibility. You lack integrity. How can anyone debate you. Debate is not what you seek.
Hi soxan,
I present what is revealed in scripture as best I can despite my low IQ. So is it the scriptures that upset you?No! it`s your flagrant dishonesty that upsets me!
Quote Hi soxan,
The Word was God with God. So he was not the God he was with was he?You ever listen to yourself?
????Quote (soxan @ Oct. 27 2005,02:24) No! it`s your flagrant dishonesty that upsets me!
Hi soxan,
Am I being flagrantly dishonest because I do not always agree with you or is there some other reason?Agree? The bible is clear! You are clear in rejecting it! Whats to agree or disagree? Wished to God that you were as innocent as your trying to protray yourself. Nick you attack the credibility of the bible! Wished to God that wasn`t true! Wished to God that you did have a problem with your i.q.
Hi soxan,
I love the bible. So I would love you to explain from the bible to us what you see so clearly and we keep missing. We love to grow in the knowledge of the truth so any clear directly bible based teaching is always welcome here.It is you who is anti-Christ Mr Hassan. You are just a cloked Judaiser just like the JW's
Jesus Christ is the 'I am' the same 'I am' that spoke to Moses. The same who stood outside Abraham's tent and whom Abraham bowed down to. The same who was Melchisedec. The same who hovered over the waters and created the earth.
Repent before it is too late for you.
I will repeat Deut 6:4 for you
Hear O Israel the Lord (Eternal & self existent) our God (Elohim = Plural and that means more than one) is one (united and number one) Lord.
So we have a Godhead that is more than one personage who are united. They are two who are united.
Quote (yes2truth @ Oct. 27 2005,17:23) It is you who is anti-Christ Mr Hassan. You are just a cloked Judaiser just like the JW's Jesus Christ is the 'I am' the same 'I am' that spoke to Moses. The same who stood outside Abraham's tent and whom Abraham bowed down to. The same who was Melchisedec. The same who hovered over the waters and created the earth.
Repent before it is too late for you.
I will repeat Deut 6:4 for you
Hear O Israel the Lord (Eternal & self existent) our God (Elohim = Plural and that means more than one) is one (united and number one) Lord.
So we have a Godhead that is more than one personage who are united. They are two who are united.
Hi Y2T,
If Jesus Christ walked the earth before his birth then scripture is broken.
Scripture says in Heb 2.17
“Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in all things…” We need to know he had no advantages so we can confidently follow him. None of us had the advantage of a preview of life so if what you say is true God is not fair and scripture lies.
Hebrews 7.1 tells us that Melchisedek was King of Salem and a priest of the Most High God. I know all those words have other meanings but so do many words in scripture and this verse is also true at face value.
So sadly your doctrine is based on presumption and not faith. You have read between the lines but missed what is written on the lines.
God is ONEHi Nick,
i don't want you to get the idea that I joined the lynch mob but Jesus did have an advantage, He was born without sin and had the Holy Spirit in full. He had to be spotless to pay our debt. He was tempted more than us but like the first Adam he was born without sin.I like that i never herd that before. He was not the God He was with. So Jesus was a god with God.
Jesus was created by God. God created everything through Jesus the beginning of creation. I believe your father's name is Hassan. So that makes you a Hassan. God created Jesus who before all things was with God. Jesus is a God. God the Son. Yes God is one, you have your father's Name but your not your father. You are a Hassan, but your NOT THE Hassan.
I'm not a JWs but truth is truth. I'm not going to deny truth in order to seperate myself from an unpopular denomination . Do you agree?Dear kenrch,
God did not create Jesus. God created all things through Jesus. This is a big difference. You must understand, Jesus is God's Word. (This is established in John chapter one). When God spoke, it was Jesus. When God commanded, it was Jesus.
Now, let me ask you, can you seperate your word from you? No. You and your word are the same person. Your word is you. You are your word.
You said, “Jesus is a God.”
There is only one God. If you say Jesus is “a” God, then you are saying there is more than one God. For Jesus is one and the father is one. This cannot be. You cannot have two Gods.
There is one God. Either Jesus is God, or Jesus is not God. If Jesus is not God, then Jesus has no power. He is nothing. He cannot save anyone. Only God can forgive sins. Only God can redeem people.
However, if Jesus is God, then He can forgive sins. He can save people.
Dear soxan and yes2truth,
Was it not Jesus who said, “Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.”
If you are true followers of Christ, why do you use such unloving words?
Please think about what you say.
In love,
BlakeIt`s unloving when you tell me and others that the color purple is green! Its unloving when you do not speak in truth. Its unloving when you pick and choose what you want to believe in the bible, and then have the audacity to tell me that you believe all of the bible. Where i come from thats not love. Love is patience, love is kindness, but love is not stupid and its not blind.
Hi soxan,
Continuing 1Cor 13
“Love rejoices with the truth”
Stick with what is revealed and we can rejoice together2Jn 1.9
“Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God;the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son”Not only do i stick with whats revealed[in scripture] i embrace all the revealed scriptures of Christ`s Divinty that you easily reject, Nick. In order to establish christian virtues you must enter into the Door of Truth! When you do then you can glory in christian virtue.
Jn 1:18 but God the One and Only,who is at the Father's side.—- When i look at the color purple my sound mind deduces that it is the color purple. I don`t have the brazen nerve to declare it green. That would make me dishonest.
Hi soxan,
I agree that the Word was God with God. He has divine status under God and divine nature. So speaking of the divinity of Christ is he a God separate from the Father to you? Is the Spirit another God? That is what a deity is, a god. So if so are there three Gods you worship? How can you say God is one when you believe in more than one that we should pray to and worship? this is so confusing.Quote Hi soxan,
I agree that the Word was God with God. He has divine status under God and divine nature. So speaking of the divinity of Christ is he a God separate from the Father to you? Is the Spirit another God? That is what a deity is, a god. So if so are there three Gods you worship? How can you say God is one when you believe in more than one that we should pray to and worship? this is so confusing.Do you understand anything that you just said? Again your integrety is at issue here not your i.q. however after just readin your statements above i may to take your i.q. into account.
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