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Quote (942767 @ April 30 2008,11:23) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 30 2008,05:34) To all! My Husband had a Biopsy taken 1 week ago, and today He went for the results. The bad news is that He has Prostate Cancer. The good news is that it is very minor. He is to old (71)for an operation to take the cancer away unless it is life threatening. He has to go get a Blood test taken every 3 months to see if His P.S.A. level is still the same as it is today. If it goes up He will have to have Treatments.
So I am asking for Prayers for Him, so it will not go up.
Thank you
Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi Mrs:I am praying that God will see your and your husband through these trials. Remember that this world is temporary and don't forget the promises of God to those who love Him and obey Him.
May God Bless you and your family
942767 Thank you so much for praying. It is so good to know, that you care. You are so right all is temporary one day no more pain and no more sorrow.
Peace and Love Georg and IreneAll,
I haven't shared this yet because it's deeply personal, but my husband is an alcoholic. We've been married for 16 years now and I'm nearly at the end of my rope…..I've tied a knot and I'm hanging on…..but just barely.
Today is one of those days that I believe I can't hang on any longer. I really do want a seperate life from him. I know God hates divorce and so I have remained faithful. But somehow tonight it seems like to large of a task. I am overwhelmed with lonliness, anger and sadness.
If I have to explain to my kids one more time that they can't ride home with Daddy because he's been drinking….I think I'll scream!
Please pray for us,
MandyQuote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2008,13:56) All, I haven't shared this yet because it's deeply personal, but my husband is an alcoholic. We've been married for 16 years now and I'm nearly at the end of my rope…..I've tied a knot and I'm hanging on…..but just barely.
Today is one of those days that I believe I can't hang on any longer. I really do want a seperate life from him. I know God hates divorce and so I have remained faithful. But somehow tonight it seems like to large of a task. I am overwhelmed with lonliness, anger and sadness.
If I have to explain to my kids one more time that they can't ride home with Daddy because he's been drinking….I think I'll scream!
Please pray for us,
Mandy
Hi Mandy:I am praying for you and your family. As you say God does hate divorce, and the reason he gives us for justifing divorce is infidelity.
However, the scripture does state if you can't stay in a relationship then you can separate, but as long as your husband is alive, you cannot have relations with anyone else.
Let me quote the scripture to which I am referring:
Quote 1Cr 7:10 And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:
1Cr 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.I am not suggesting that you do this. It would be better if you could stick it out if at all possible. The hope is that your husband will repent and be saved. Please read the rest of this chapter.
God Bless
Mandy I am so sorry to hear about your big trial that you are going through. And I will certainly pray for all of you. Oh, Mandy this going to be so hard for you and the children. I suppose you have tried outside help? If you can hang in there and see a Christian Counselor, I just hope that you will try and try again. We have 4 Children and all have been divorced. So I know how hard it is. Our Granddaughter has been hurt by Her Dad so much. He is a drug Addict. They divorced when She 5 years old. She is 16 years old now. She is so full of hate for Her Dad. Underneath all the anger is so much hurt. She has seen a Counselor in School. We are going to see when our Daughter gets Health Insurance to get Her some outside Help. In the meantime we do what we can. She will be staying with us over the summer.
Mandy, may God be with you and give you strength to do whatever is in the best interest of all of you. Remember always that God loves you and so do I.
Peace and Love always IreneI have always had a hard time asking for help, I rather help others then ask for help. But I am in a lot of pain that is keeping me from sleeping at nights. I do not sleep to good to begin with, and now the pain keeps me up all night long.
So wont you please pray for me. The pain is mainly in my upper back. If it my Lupus or my Osteoporosis or both. It also itches so much, it drives me crazy. I had broken both of my shoulders years ago and now have Arthritis in them too. I am a mess.
I just can't wait til Jesus will come and take all of it away.
Our Father who art in Heaven
Halloweth be thy name, Thy Kingdom come,
Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven,
give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those that trespasses against us,
and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 09 2008,13:56) All, I haven't shared this yet because it's deeply personal, but my husband is an alcoholic. We've been married for 16 years now and I'm nearly at the end of my rope…..I've tied a knot and I'm hanging on…..but just barely.
Today is one of those days that I believe I can't hang on any longer. I really do want a seperate life from him. I know God hates divorce and so I have remained faithful. But somehow tonight it seems like to large of a task. I am overwhelmed with lonliness, anger and sadness.
If I have to explain to my kids one more time that they can't ride home with Daddy because he's been drinking….I think I'll scream!
Please pray for us,
Mandy
Hi Mandy,
I have seen first hand damage alcoholism can visit on a marriage and a family (although not directly in my own family). My prayer is that you husband sees it with his own eyes and falls on his knees. Our God is a God of restoration. It must be tough for you right now, draw your strength from Him Mandy.Hi Mandy:
A writer wrote this: ” During life's struggles , the rope get worn , and at the end of the rope , you've done all that you know to do, hang on for Jesus is at your end. “Quote (thehappyman @ June 11 2008,14:29) Hi Mandy:
A writer wrote this: ” During life's struggles , the rope get worn , and at the end of the rope , you've done all that you know to do, hang on for Jesus is at your end. “
Thank you, Happyman.A miracle has happened in our household! Dan called me today and told me that he had spoke with a alcoholic abuse counselor and he is going into treatment! What?! I couldn't believe my ears? After years of begging, yelling, crying, hoping and praying…….now he decides to get some help.
I'm completely convinced that it's because of prayer. Paul, your anointed prayer reached the throne room, I'm just sure of it. God bless all of those who have stood with me in prayer.
I'm hoping he will follow through and get the help that he needs. I think he knew that I was done and couldn't take any more. Whatever it was, praise God. Praise God for hope! And praise God for all of you.
Much love and thankfulness,
MandyQuote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2008,16:52) Quote (thehappyman @ June 11 2008,14:29) Hi Mandy:
A writer wrote this: ” During life's struggles , the rope get worn , and at the end of the rope , you've done all that you know to do, hang on for Jesus is at your end. “
Thank you, Happyman.A miracle has happened in our household! Dan called me today and told me that he had spoke with a alcoholic abuse counselor and he is going into treatment! What?! I couldn't believe my ears? After years of begging, yelling, crying, hoping and praying…….now he decides to get some help.
I'm completely convinced that it's because of prayer. Paul, your anointed prayer reached the throne room, I'm just sure of it. God bless all of those who have stood with me in prayer.
I'm hoping he will follow through and get the help that he needs. I think he knew that I was done and couldn't take any more. Whatever it was, praise God. Praise God for hope! And praise God for all of you.
Much love and thankfulness,
Mandy
Mandy! Miracles still do happen, and thank's to our God Almighty. But just remember though that road to His recovery is still steep. So we will continue to pray for Him.
Peace and Love to you and your's Irene
P.S. thank you for your prayers, I too feel better.Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2008,16:52) A miracle has happened in our household! Dan called me today and told me that he had spoke with a alcoholic abuse counselor and he is going into treatment! What?! I couldn't believe my ears? After years of begging, yelling, crying, hoping and praying…….now he decides to get some help. I'm completely convinced that it's because of prayer. Paul, your anointed prayer reached the throne room, I'm just sure of it. God bless all of those who have stood with me in prayer.
I'm hoping he will follow through and get the help that he needs. I think he knew that I was done and couldn't take any more. Whatever it was, praise God. Praise God for hope! And praise God for all of you.
Much love and thankfulness,
Mandy
I'm VERY happy for you, but not surprised. Thank you Jesus!Mandy,
I hope things work out, in most cases of addiction no one can help a person who does not think he has a problem. Perhaps your growing desparation and reaching the end of your rope helped finally convince your husband that he was about to reach the end of his. Having known alcoholics, they always told me they had to hit rock bottom before they even realized they truly had a problem. Even in prayer, I think the effected themselves have to ask for God's help. Despite what many others say here I believe God honors our own choices even when they are bad, he is always willing to help but must be asked otherwise it invalidates our own choices. Perhaps he is at the stage where he is open to asking the Almighty for his aid, let us hope so.As for divorce let me say sometimes it is necessary. Having had one failed marriage I must say that in it I was utterly miserable. No my wife was not an addict, just extemely self centered, material, unforgiving and cruel. I wanted a divorce but felt that just being unhappy was not reason enough to leave. Thankfully and I truly mean this, one of my step-daughters informed me of her mother's infidelity, I was actually happy for now I felt justified in leaving. Still it was hard, painful, expensive. I had two teen age step-daughters and a 2 year old son, life was actually worse for a while, but I was free. Years later after having relations with many women, I realized that I was not living as I should. I prayed for God to show me someone who will help me live as I should not as I was. That night I had a vivid dream of a young lady literally half way around the world that I met in my travels years before but lost contact with. Well to make a long story short I found her again, wooed her and am now happily married with two daughters and am content at home. So prayer does work and divorce I feel is sometimes necessary, but definitely not without pain, but everytime I look at life now and the one I had with my ex I look up and say thanks for the true partnership I have now. My marriage is not perfect, but I can honestly say it is as close to perfect as I am likely to get in this world. I Hope in your case everything works out for the best, but if not you must do what you think best for yourself and your children. Choosing the path of the martyr is usually not in anyone's best interest, but I hope in your case it will not come to this and perhaps you have weathered your storm. I truly wish you the best whatever comes your way.
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2008,16:52) Quote (thehappyman @ June 11 2008,14:29) Hi Mandy:
A writer wrote this: ” During life's struggles , the rope get worn , and at the end of the rope , you've done all that you know to do, hang on for Jesus is at your end. “
Thank you, Happyman.A miracle has happened in our household! Dan called me today and told me that he had spoke with a alcoholic abuse counselor and he is going into treatment! What?! I couldn't believe my ears? After years of begging, yelling, crying, hoping and praying…….now he decides to get some help.
I'm completely convinced that it's because of prayer. Paul, your anointed prayer reached the throne room, I'm just sure of it. God bless all of those who have stood with me in prayer.
I'm hoping he will follow through and get the help that he needs. I think he knew that I was done and couldn't take any more. Whatever it was, praise God. Praise God for hope! And praise God for all of you.
Much love and thankfulness,
Mandy
Hi Mandy,
Be of good cheer,” Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer supplication with thanks giving let your requests be made known to God” Phil 4:6“I can do all things through Him who strengthens me” Phil 4:13
You are having such a cloud of good brothers and sisters those who love you, pray for you and care for you.
Why are you worried my loving Sis? You are such a loving child of our loving Father and you are in His safe hands. Nothing will happen to you and your family. I told Anu to pray for you, she in her mother's place.
Trust in the Lord and don't despair.
hey! smile Sis, don't you?
AdamQuote (Cato @ June 12 2008,01:31) Mandy,
I hope things work out, in most cases of addiction no one can help a person who does not think he has a problem. Perhaps your growing desperation and reaching the end of your rope helped finally convince your husband that he was about to reach the end of his. Having known alcoholics, they always told me they had to hit rock bottom before they even realized they truly had a problem. Even in prayer, I think the effected themselves have to ask for God's help. Despite what many others say here I believe God honors our own choices even when they are bad, he is always willing to help but must be asked otherwise it invalidates our own choices. Perhaps he is at the stage where he is open to asking the Almighty for his aid, let us hope so.As for divorce let me say sometimes it is necessary. Having had one failed marriage I must say that in it I was utterly miserable. No my wife was not an addict, just extemely self centered, material, unforgiving and cruel. I wanted a divorce but felt that just being unhappy was not reason enough to leave. Thankfully and I truly mean this, one of my step-daughters informed me of her mother's infidelity, I was actually happy for now I felt justified in leaving. Still it was hard, painful, expensive. I had two teen age step-daughters and a 2 year old son, life was actually worse for a while, but I was free. Years later after having relations with many women, I realized that I was not living as I should. I prayed for God to show me someone who will help me live as I should not as I was. That night I had a vivid dream of a young lady literally half way around the world that I met in my travels years before but lost contact with. Well to make a long story short I found her again, wooed her and am now happily married with two daughters and am content at home. So prayer does work and divorce I feel is sometimes necessary, but definitely not without pain, but everytime I look at life now and the one I had with my ex I look up and say thanks for the true partnership I have now. My marriage is not perfect, but I can honestly say it is as close to perfect as I am likely to get in this world. I Hope in your case everything works out for the best, but if not you must do what you think best for yourself and your children. Choosing the path of the martyr is usually not in anyone's best interest, but I hope in your case it will not come to this and perhaps you have weathered your storm. I truly wish you the best whatever comes your way.
Cato! Since you left your first Wife, you really do not know why God put you in that place. We have been married for 47 years and speaking from experience, I too have felt at time of running away, because of problems. Even tho. I do not know anybodies circumstances, but God hates Divorce for a reason. When we say our vows it is for better or for worse. But a lot of us take the easy way out. The children are always the ones that hurt the most in a divorce and for that reason I too hate divorce. Witnessed it with our Grandchildren and it hurts. In Mandy's case Alcoholism is a sickness, and you would not leave your spouse for any other sickness, would you?
So for all that are reading this and are on the blink of a divorce, please for the children do everything in your power to stop that process.
Peace and Love IreneThanks, guys. I really appreciate your input and advice, especially your prayers.
It's not easy to love someone who seems incapable of giving love back to you. My mother was a martyr for the cause, but I will not be.
Mandy
Quote (seek and you will find @ June 12 2008,05:10) Cato! Since you left your first Wife, you really do not know why God put you in that place. We have been married for 47 years and speaking from experience, I too have felt at time of running away, because of problems. Even tho. I do not know anybodies circumstances, but God hates Divorce for a reason. When we say our vows it is for better or for worse. But a lot of us take the easy way out. The children are always the ones that hurt the most in a divorce and for that reason I too hate divorce. Witnessed it with our Grandchildren and it hurts. In Mandy's case Alcoholism is a sickness, and you would not leave your spouse for any other sickness, would you?
So for all that are reading this and are on the blink of a divorce, please for the children do everything in your power to stop that process.
Peace and Love Irene
Why was I in my first marriage, perhaps to pay off some karmic debt, if so I think I paid in full and then was allowed out. I don't regret it now because I had my son and I came and helped two girls in a critical time in their life, also after having a miserable union I truly appreciate even more the good one I have now. To stay in my old marriage would have only prolonged the agony and I doubt it would have in the end served my ex either and trust me it was not the easy it took a lot of courage to take the step.Children are also hurt in bad marriages. One of the reasons I left at the time was for my children. Also my ex was married twice before me so Biblically did my marriage even exist to begin with or was I merely living in sin which ended when I got divorced?
On the other subject; Yes, alcoholism is a disease, but if one does not want to be healed do you let that sickness contaminate the rest of the family? Do you let children witness or be subject to a drunk potentially obusive individual? Can you help someone who doesn't want to be helped?
I am happy you are still together with your spouse, my own parents have been married over 50 years themselves. Yet I know I did the right thing and when I compare my life now and what I had then it is only too obvious.
Now divorce is nothing to be taken lightly, it is immensely painful, and can have severe implications for all involved yet sometimes it is the only way. Old Testament Biblical admonitions on divorce are I think as pertinent today as their views on purifying women after childbirth, or did you go to a priest and offer a lamb and a pigeon for attonement to make you clean after your children were born?
Lastly if God so disapproved of divorce in my own case, why did he show me in direct response to my own prayers, someone so well suited for me? Life is not all black and white that's why we use judgement, reason and conscience to answer difficult situations. Many might fault me for my unorthodoxy or bluntness, but my intentions are clear and a little realism even if it is occasionally unpleasant is better then platitudes. That I put my own personal life on display and open for comment and possible ridicule should point to my intentions.
Hi Prayer Partners :
Cato, I believe you have judged yourself and justified your actions through your reasoning.
Divorce is when a person loses the cause of giving oneself to another. The bible speaks of divorce in the law. But with the innocent, it has no place in our Godly walk. Forgiveness and repentance works together. For by Grace we are saved. ….Quote (Cato @ June 12 2008,06:30) That I put my own personal life on display and open for comment and possible ridicule should point to my intentions.
Thank you, Cato.
Quote (thehappyman @ June 12 2008,15:05) Hi Prayer Partners :
Cato, I believe you have judged yourself and justified your actions through your reasoning.
Divorce is when a person loses the cause of giving oneself to another. The bible speaks of divorce in the law. But with the innocent, it has no place in our Godly walk. Forgiveness and repentance works together. For by Grace we are saved. ….
Yes, I judged myself and reasoned an answer to my past dilemma, and the results to me have shown that my actions were correct. There is no admonition against self judgment.Divorce is the ending of a partnership, not the end of giving of yourself.
The innocent aren't married, there is no marriage in the after-life.
You can forgive and repent and still factor in that a particular partnership is no longer productive or useful to anyone. It serves not God, yourself or any partner. You may very well forgive someone who steals from you but that doesn't mean you are going to lay your wallet down in front of them again.
Yes by grace we are saved but what does that have to do with the subject?
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