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- October 4, 2007 at 12:52 am#67421LaurelParticipant
Iam4,
You will need to eat some yogurt everyday for about a week to fix what the antibiotics destroyed. CoQ10 on the other hand does not have negative side effects.October 4, 2007 at 1:03 am#67422LaurelParticipantQuote (Stu @ July 04 2007,23:36) May I ask what “truth about unmarried sex” has changed your view?
Stu,
I read a verse that said “It is better to marry than to burn.”When I read that it stabbed my heart. I knew the command not to commit adultry, but I viewed it as pertaining to fidelity only. I have always been faithful because of that belief and still am.
Since I quit having unmarried sexual relations, my eyes were opened to a facinating truth. The truth of what a “loving” relationship is. It is protrayed perfecty by the Father and Son unit. A perfect marraige is a perfect unit as well. Love is not a selfish act. Love is all about the wellness of the partner, and has a porpose as well as a “covenant”. It also reflects the “headship” in a relationshaip, and how there can only be one head.
Serving the head of the relationship, and being cared for by that head. It is powerful stuff, and a goal that I am worthy of, if I keep in His Word, and not my own will.
True love is attainable by everyone who understands and believes.
So, I must not give myself to one who will not give himself to Y'shua who is his head. As YHWH is the head of all, even the Son.
Laurel
October 4, 2007 at 1:25 am#67426IM4TruthParticipantLaurel How do you know that I am taking antibiotics, which i am not. For your information I have eaten yogurt for months now. See how much you love me. Rather then saying to me I will pray for you , you give me advice that you should not, because you do not know all of my circumstances. But thank you anyway.
Peace and Love Mrs.
October 4, 2007 at 2:08 am#67432942767ParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ Oct. 04 2007,09:19) Here I am again asking for your Prayers, I have been so sick with the Stomach Virus. I even seen the Doctor nothing can be done except given me Nausea Medication. Hoping it will not go into my Lungs which I fear since I have C.O.P.D.
Asking in Christ's NamePeace and Love Mrs.
Hi Mrs:Praying for your speedy recovery.
God Bless
October 4, 2007 at 2:57 am#67437IM4TruthParticipant942767 Thank you for your Prayers. I am feeling somrwhat better with taking some medication for the nausea. Since I have Lupus it takes my recovery is always slow.
Peace and Love Mrs.:D
October 4, 2007 at 5:35 am#67445StuParticipantQuote (Laurel @ Oct. 04 2007,13:03) I read a verse that said “It is better to marry than to burn.” When I read that it stabbed my heart. I knew the command not to commit adultry, but I viewed it as pertaining to fidelity only.
Hi LaurelThank for your reply.
I am curious about what sense you interpret the word burn.
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/7-9.htm
gives some clear, and some ambiguous versions of the verse.
“Burn with desire” is a bit different from “burn in hell”, and one reference on the link above even combines the two. I imagine there are people reading this thread who could give a better original translation than burn, too.
Does this verse specifically command marriage for a couple? It just says marriage is better than burning. It doesn't say cohabitation in a committed relationship is any worse.
I think your idea of “headship” is a bit medieval – why not consider it a life partnership?
Stuart
October 4, 2007 at 12:43 pm#67455LaurelParticipantStu,
Like I said, when I read it, I knew exactly what it meant by the Spirit that dwells in me. I can think of verses that speak about final judgment, the second death, and Y'shua's words about the branch that does not produce good fruit is cast into the fire.See Stu,
Some folks think hell is an everlasting punishment in that the suffering goes on for eternity, but those folks forget that YHWH is a loving El. Also they do not consider that only the saved have everlsting life.I know that the second death is final, forever. The suffering only lasts as long as it takes a branch to burn up, and those unsaved will know what they will never have. They will also “feel” for the first time what pain they caused to others.
I guess the formal covenant thing is for those who think they can get out of the relationship if it goes bad. The vow of marriage should be taken with YHWH's blessing, meaning He approves, and it should be a “permanent” covenant.
My friend JP is afraid to commit on paper, because he has a take it or leave it attitude. When a man commits, he makes a vow to care for the woman through thick and thin. JP is a man who stands by his committments. I think he is afraid of failure because he is a perfectionist.
Anyway he hasn't been unfaithful to me even though we are no longer a couple. He knows I am here if he changes his mind.
1Co 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
Why do you need a translation?
October 4, 2007 at 1:02 pm#67456LaurelParticipantElohim created us to be different so that we compliment each other. Men naturally are the “piercer” emotionally and physically, while women are the “pierced”, emotionally and physically. Women internalize everything, while men use rely on logic. Men are the go getters as well the providers, while women are the caretakers and can take care of business from here. We rely a lot on intuition, based on many little details, which shows in our boring conversations. At least men say “just get to the point”. For men it's all about getting to the point, while women need to knoe all the details about how were gonna get to the point, is the point worth the time and energy and the stress?
Marriage was originally designed for us to have to learn from each other. Women just “know” things before they happen, men need to touch, taste, feel, see to get it.
A woman, by being submissive can show her man how he should be toward his head, Y'shua and from there he learns how YHWH is the head of Y'shua. So it does have a loving purpose, and it teaches a meaningful relationship.
Trouble comes always, when a woman feels like she is eing lead into a dangerous place by her man. It may just be that he lets the children watch gore movies. She has an instinct that it is wrong. A fight ensues because he can't see the harm.
When a woman is put in this position, she will become the head, permanently if necessary. That goes against what YHWH tells us to be. Women have a hard time standing by, while their man makes mistakes that are unnecessary, “if he would have just listened.”
So it is very important that a woman chooses a man who is after YHWH heart. When a woman has a man like that she knows that mistakes will not have a detrimental effect on the family. She can trust her man, because he trust Y'shua, who trusts YHWH. So the whole family is “pointed” in the right direction.
The man is the “pointed” one the “piercer.” Can you see it now?
Laurel
October 4, 2007 at 1:13 pm#67457LaurelParticipantOne thing I forgot to add that is significant about woman is this:
A woman is a natural born leader. It goes against her nature to submit in a situation where she feels uncomfortable or in danger.
Why is a woman a natural born leader?
Because she is a servant first. A care giver. That is what good leaders have that makes them better than the next guy!When women look for a partner, and do not understand these things, have never had a good example to follow, she tends to pick the “tough guy” She thinks he will be tough under any circumstances. Unfortunately she is let down the first time he runs away to the bar for a drink to calm himself, or to the gym to work it off, or he smacks her because he can't deal with anger. The tough guy syndrom is an outward sign of an inward weakness.
Marraige forces us to consider more seriously, whom we are going to share the rest of our lives with, before we do.
Live-in partners have no such heavy choice to make, and so can make more mistakes first, and run later. Unfortunately some of these mistakes are children. Some of these mistakes, cause permanent scars emotionally, some of these mistakes cause sexually transmitted diseases, and some even cause abortion.
Sin, no matter how small, always leads to bigger sin.
October 4, 2007 at 1:30 pm#67458kejonnParticipantLaurel and Stu,
Not to rain on your parade, but could you start another thread to discuss your issues if you feel you will continue? This seems to be a prayer request thread and I prefer it stay that way.
Thanks!
October 4, 2007 at 2:28 pm#67463LaurelParticipantKJ,
Not ro rain on your parade but I started this thread and my prayer is that all will come to know Y'shua as their Master and seek the kingdom of the promise.Love Ya,
LaurelOctober 4, 2007 at 6:27 pm#67472Not3in1ParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ Oct. 04 2007,09:19) Here I am again asking for your Prayers, I have been so sick with the Stomach Virus. I even seen the Doctor nothing can be done except given me Nausea Medication. Hoping it will not go into my Lungs which I fear since I have C.O.P.D.
Asking in Christ's NamePeace and Love Mrs.
Sister Irene,Holy Father, I ask in Jesus name that you touch my sister and heal her illness. May you bring comfort, peace and joy to her body and spirit. We trust you, Father; and we love you. Help us in our needs as we look to you. Give sister Irene many days on this earth – we need her! You know what we need before we ask, so Father thank you for your healing. Amen.
Sis, check in and let us know how you are doing.
Love to you,
MandyOctober 4, 2007 at 10:10 pm#67497IM4TruthParticipantMandy Thank you for your Prayer, I am feeling somewhat better with the Medication, but I am still not over it. Had something solid tonight for supper, and it agreed with me so far. Just keep up with your prayer that it does not go into my Lungs. Thank you so much, I do appreciate all your prayers. I also want to ask for unity in this group, I don't know how that can happen when there are so many different beliefs. I long for that so much.
Peace and Love Irene:DOctober 5, 2007 at 12:23 am#67512kejonnParticipantMrs,
Different beliefs, but one God. So anything is possible!
Luk 18:27 But he said, “What is impossible with men is possible with God.”
October 6, 2007 at 6:14 am#67638thehappymanParticipantAmen , Kejonn………
October 6, 2007 at 3:13 pm#67661IM4TruthParticipantWhatever Gods will is ,I will except it. The Lord is my Shepherd nothing shall I want……..
Let us Pray once more for all to be united in the Lord, with God all things are possible, again if it is in His will. Also want to Pray for all that are sick from the list that thehappyman has given us. And for Mandy hope She will be completley healed of all Her sickness and Discease. I asked it all In Jesus Name Amen.
Peace and Love Irene
Peace and Love Mrs.:D
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