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- December 9, 2014 at 11:30 pm#786644CamilliaParticipant
I would like everyone on this site to give a very brief description of how they will know that Jesus has returned.
Thanks.
As a starter, I will know it is truly Jesus because everything will be gone, burnt, all that remains will be those who God loves. Then will be the rapture.
December 10, 2014 at 12:35 am#786684WakeupParticipantRevelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Even the slumberers will see this; but it is too late for them, the groom has arrived,
and they have no oil to keep the spirit burning.
1.He will come with ten thousand and thousands of his angels.
2. The light will exceed the sunlight. Therefore the need of clouds.
3.Babylon will be destroyed in one day.
4 Armageddon is a one day war.
5. The 3rd ww takes one year,one month,one day, one hour to prepare.Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
wakeup.
December 10, 2014 at 10:22 am#786717CamilliaParticipantThank you Wakeup!
I would like now to hear all other member point of views. How will you know that Jesus has returned.
December 10, 2014 at 4:34 pm#786757CamilliaParticipantAnybody?
If you do not know, please just say you would not know.
I think this is a really important topic/question.December 10, 2014 at 4:45 pm#786760terrariccaParticipantCamillia
how can anyone know ? how did the Israelites knew that they were at the promised land ?
was it not because God told them the land was Canaan on the other side of the Jordan ?
did God not told them that they going to do some actions to take it or subdue it ? yes
Jesus will come back on the clouds but he did in 70 AD ,who did fulfilled the prophecy that he told his disciple that will happen to the temple ?Jesus did ;so when he comes the ones that know the word of God will know what is taken place is of Jesus actions ,
December 10, 2014 at 11:05 pm#786784CamilliaParticipantThanks Terraricca.
Why is no one else commenting? Is it because they do not know. Such a huge event, and they do not know. When Jesus comes, hmm… too busy arguing about nonsense.
I mean, it’s ok to not know (if you are seeking). But, it pays TO know. Because there will be a world deceiver, and… so many people already are deceived.
If people here do know, why are they keeping silent? Is it because… it cannot be explained in one line? Is it because people need to make a huge post to explain their point of view.
If people think they know, why are they keeping it secret?
December 10, 2014 at 11:11 pm#786787CamilliaParticipantI mean, I could shorten my statement even more..
I will know when it is TRULY Jesus, because everything will be gone, and all that remains are those who God loves.
So, please, I really want to know EVERYONE’S point of view, as briefly as possible. How will you know it is REALLY Jesus returned? As brief as possible. If you don’t know or are undecided, please say so.
@t8
@kerwin
@NickHassan
@Bodhithartaand everyone else!
December 10, 2014 at 11:15 pm#786789ProclaimerParticipantHis return will be spectacular and will proceed great destruction. Justice and good will on Earth thereafter.
December 10, 2014 at 11:35 pm#786793CamilliaParticipantThankyou t8!
December 12, 2014 at 12:40 pm#786928CamilliaParticipantThey say that a false messiah is coming, so deceitful even the elect could be deceived if possible… now that’s deceitful.
Many of the early church, and today, say this false messiah will even raise the dead.So, you must know these things.
The Day of the Lord is The true Coming of Jesus.
Jesus comes as a THIEF IN THE NIGHT.
This is what will happen.2nd Peter 3.
3 This is now, beloved, the second letter I am writing to you in which I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, 2 that you should remember the words spoken beforehand by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken by your apostles.3 Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5 For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6 through which…
the world at that time was destroyed
being flooded with water. 7 But…
by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the Day of Judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
10 But, the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.Matthew 24 42 “Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.43 But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.
Rev 16:15. “Behold, I am coming like a thief.”
1 Thessalonians 5:4
But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness…
looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! 13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, beloved…
knowing this beforehand,
be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.The coming of Jesus will be exactly as above. If those things have not happened… it is not Jesus, but a fake. Do not be deceived.
December 12, 2014 at 4:02 pm#786941WakeupParticipantCamellia.
Luke 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Revelation 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
wakeup
December 13, 2014 at 12:22 am#786961CamilliaParticipantHi Wakeup.
Define “watch”.December 13, 2014 at 1:45 am#786965WakeupParticipantcamellia.
Spiritually alert; therefore we need to know prophesies, because prophecy will tell you when he is coming.
What will happen before the coming. yes we can tell when he is coming, but not the day or the hour.
We know that He will come At the last trump.
We have to know when the first trumpet has sound. Then the second and so on right to the seventh trumpet.wakeup.
December 13, 2014 at 3:24 pm#786994journey42Participant2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Cam
The false prophet has to come first. I am not waiting for a secret rapture but those who are may be snared by him, thinking he is Christ and has come for them.
Before the False Prophet emerges, the 10 kings have to show their face first.
The false prophet will issue the mark of the beast on all, otherwise no one can buy or sell.
The christians who refuse this mark will be persecuted,and killed, ….put out of the way.
Some christians who refuse the mark will not be killed but spared by God. Maybe kept alive in prison, whatever.
The false prophet will invade and occupy Israel for 3 1/2 years. He will start building his very own temple there in Jerusalem (an abomination that makes desolate, because Israel chose him, and believed the lie, therefore rejecting Christ and the warnings given about this man to come, the Son of Perdition)
The two witnesses sent by God will be preaching in Israel for 1260 days whilst the False prophet is there in control.
When they are killed, their dead bodies will lie in the streets for 3 1/2 days. The world will rejoice over their death.
When they are resurrected before every ones eyes, the Lord Jesus Christ will come in that same hour.
In that same hour will be the war of Armageddon where they fight the lamb. It will coincide at the same time.And then there will be signs in the sky. The sky will be dark from all the smoke, it will be evening also. When Christ appears, the sky will be lit up. Everyone on earth will see it. Then comes the final destruction on Babylon the great by Christ.
If we know these things, which are simple, we can never go wrong.
Christ will never come before the Son of Perdition (the False prophet)
The False prophet will be obvious, because he is to be the worlds next dictator, and comes deceiving with his miracles and smooth words for peace. He is an imposter and will be BIG NEWS. The world will be focused on him. His laws will affect our lives and we will know him as soon as he appears according to the prophesies.December 13, 2014 at 10:23 pm#787000CamilliaParticipantJourney, here’s a link to some early church prophecies regarding the antichrist if you are interested (You have to scroll down the page):
http://www.marianland.com/antichrist/antichrist001.html
I think the most interesting is St Hippolytus (170-236AD), who wrote:
“Christ arose from among the Hebrews, and he (Antichrist) will spring from among the Jews. Christ showed His flesh as a Temple, and raised it up on the third day; and he, too, will raise up again the Temple of stone in Jerusalem.”
“In every respect that Deceiver seeks to make himself appear like the Son of God. Christ is king of things celestial and terrestrial, and Antichrist will be king upon earth. The Saviour sent the Apostles unto all the nations, and he, in like manner will send false apostles. Christ gathered together the dispersed sheep, and he in like manner will gather together the dispersed people of the Hebrews. Christ appeared in the form of man, and he in like manner will come forth in the form of man.”
“But many who are hearers of Holy Scripture and have it in their hands, and keep it in mind with understanding, will escape his imposture. For they will see clearly through his insidious appearance and his deceitful imposture, and will flee from his hands and betake themselves to the mountains, and hide in the caves of the earth; and they will seek after the Friend of man with tears and a contrite heart: and He will deliver them out of his toils, and with His right hand He will save those from his snares who make their supplication to Him in a worthy and righteous manner.”
“And the churches, too will wail with a mighty lamentation, because neither oblation nor incense is attended to, nor a service acceptable to God; but the sanctuaries of the churches will become like a garden-watcher’s hut, and the Holy Body and Blood of Christ will not be shown in those days. The public service of God shall be extinguished, psalmody shall cease, the reading of Scripture shall not be heard; but for men there shall be darkness and lamentation on lamentation, and woe on woe. At that time silver and gold shall be cast out in the streets, and none shall gather them; but all things shall be held an offence. For all shall be eager to escape and to hide and they shall not be able anywhere to find shelter from the woes of the Enemy; but as they carry his mark about them, they shall be readily recognised and declared to be his. There shall be fear outside, and trembling inside both by night and by day. In the streets and in the houses there the dead shall lie; in the streets and in the houses there shall hunger and thirst be; in the streets there shall be tumults, and in the houses lamentations. And beauty of countenance shall be withered, for their forms shall be like those of the dead; and the beauty of women shall fade, and the desire of all men shall vanish. But in spite of all this, not even then will the merciful and benignant God leave the race of men without some comfort; He will shorten even those days to the period of three years and a half, and He will curtail those times on account of the remnant of those who hide in the mountains and caves, that the phalanx of all those saints fail not utterly. But these days shall run their course rapidly; and the kingdom of the Deceiver and Antichrist shall be promptly removed. And then, finally, in the twinkling of an eye shall the fashion of this world pass away, and the power of men shall be brought to naught, and all visible things shall be destroyed.”
And, St. Zenobius, 337-417AD.
“Antichrist, the son of perdition will be born in Corozain, will be brought up in Bethsaida and shall begin to reign in Capharnaum, according to what Our Lord Jesus said in the Gospel: “Woe to thee Corozain … woe to thee Bethsaida … and thou Capharnaum that art exalted up to heaven, thou shalt be thrust down to hell. (Luke, 10:13) Antichrist shall work a thousand prodigies on earth. He will make the blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk, the dead rise, so that even the Elect, if possible, shall be deceived by his magical arts. Puffed up with pride, Antichrist shall enter in triumph the city of Jerusalem and will sit on a throne in the Temple to be adored as if he were the Son of God. His heart being intoxicated with arrogance, he will forget his being a mere man, and the son of a woman of the tribe of Dan.”
“Then the Son of God, Our Lord Jesus Christ, shall come in person. He shall appear on the clouds of heaven surrounded by legions of angels; and, shining with glory, He will put to death Antichrist, the Beast, the Enemy, the Seducer, and all his followers. This shall be the end of time and the beginning of the general judgment.”
I believe the time is getting closer, I can feel it. I believe deception has set in already (how? Television, Internet?). I believe there could be two deceivers. One will be a tyrant, and the second will be a “Savior”.
The only way we will be able to know the end has come is because everything will be destroyed. As I said, if this hasn’t happened, it is not Jesus.
December 13, 2014 at 10:36 pm#787002CamilliaParticipanthow can anyone know ? how did the Israelites knew that they were at the promised land ?
was it not because God told them the land was Canaan on the other side of the Jordan ?
did God not told them that they going to do some actions to take it or subdue it ? yes
Jesus will come back on the clouds but he did in 70 AD ,who did fulfilled the prophecy that he told his disciple that will happen to the temple ?Jesus did ;so when he comes the ones that know the word of God will know what is taken place is of Jesus actions ,
Yes, I hear you Terraricca.
His return will be spectacular and will proceed great destruction. Justice and good will on Earth thereafter.
T8, “Justice and goodwill on Earth thereafter”. In what way? Are you talking about the new Earth?
Spiritually alert; therefore we need to know prophesies, because prophecy will tell you when he is coming.
What will happen before the coming. yes we can tell when he is coming, but not the day or the hour.
We know that He will come At the last trump.
We have to know when the first trumpet has sound. Then the second and so on right to the seventh trumpet.Wakeup.
Well, it’s pretty clear the time is coming near because of the deception in the world, and certain dreams……. also, the dreams and visions of Jesus to the Muslim world (have you heard of that?). Yes, the time is here, the signs are obvious… but concerning knowing if it is Jesus or not – that is where we have to watch that we are not deceived. Even my closest Internet friend seems to be deceived – sad day.
December 14, 2014 at 12:05 am#787009WakeupParticipantCamellia.
We have to learn to take written scripture seriously. What else can we depend on?
God said; every eye shall see HIM; even the jews who killed HIM.
Don’t waver and say; yes, but this or that, not too sure, can also be be this or that.The false prophet will precede the true coming. He will rule for 3/half years.
Then you will know the true Lord will come next, with His army of angels.wakeup.
December 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm#787058CamilliaParticipantWakeup, you won’t know, imo. Just imagine we have a world tyrant, who starts off peacefully, then introduces things such as forced micro-chipping. You will believe this is the antichrist. Then, out of nowhere, comes Jesus, kills the antichrist, and causes cities to fall. Then, this Jesus will set his throne in Jerusalem, and you will go up to see him, and worship him, just as you think scripture says. Well, I know that it will not be. I know the real Jesus will come, so bright, nothing will remain, sad as that may be.
December 15, 2014 at 4:12 am#787064terrariccaParticipantcam
pay attention here ;
Mt 13:24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
Mt 13:25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away.
Mt 13:26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
Mt 13:27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
Mt 13:28 “ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
Mt 13:29 “ ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them.
Mt 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’ ”Mt 13:31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field.
Mt 13:32 Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches.”Mt 13:33 He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into a large amount of flour until it worked all through the dough.”
now hear the explanation ;
Mt 13:36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”
Mt 13:37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man.
Mt 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one,
Mt 13:39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
Mt 13:40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.
Mt 13:41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
Mt 13:42 They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mt 13:43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.did you understood ?
December 15, 2014 at 9:32 am#787066CamilliaParticipantTerraricca, Yes I understand.
Notice the enemy, (the Devil), went away after sowing weeds.
Notice the field is the Son’s.
Notice that FIRST the weeds, (those who cause sin and do evil), are bundled and burnt, then after that, the wheat (the righteous son’s of the Kingdom), are brought into the barn, where they will shine as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.And after that is Matthew 13:47-50.
“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind; and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away. “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous, and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. “Have you understood all these things?” They said to Him, “Yes.”
Read the last words in the OT.
Malachi
4 “For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze,” says the Lord of hosts, “so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.” 2 “But for you who fear My name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings; and you will go forth and skip about like calves from the stall. 3 You will tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day which I am preparing,” says the Lord of hosts.”
And, you know the story of the three men in the pit of fire, heated seven times hotter. (Daniel 3).
19 Then Nebuchadnezzar was filled with wrath, and his facial expression was altered toward Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego. He answered by giving orders to heat the furnace seven times more than it was usually heated. 20 He commanded certain valiant warriors who were in his army to tie up Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego in order to cast them into the furnace of blazing fire. 21 Then these men were tied up in their trousers, their coats, their caps and their other clothes, and were cast into the midst of the furnace of blazing fire. 22 For this reason, because the king’s command was urgent and the furnace had been made extremely hot, the flame of the fire slew those men who carried up Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego. 23 But these three men, Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego, fell into the midst of the furnace of blazing fire still tied up.
24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astounded and stood up in haste; he said to his high officials, “Was it not three men we cast bound into the midst of the fire?” They replied to the king, “Certainly, O king.” 25 He said, “Look! I see four men loosed and walking about in the midst of the fire without harm, and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods!” 26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the door of the furnace of blazing fire; he responded and said, “Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego, come out, you servants of the Most High God, and come here!” Then Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego came out of the midst of the fire. 27 The satraps, the prefects, the governors and the king’s high officials gathered around and saw in regard to these men that the fire had no effect on the bodies of these men nor was the hair of their head singed, nor were their trousers damaged, nor had the smell of fire even come upon them.
28 Nebuchadnezzar responded and said, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-nego, who has sent His angel and delivered His servants who put their trust in Him
And of course 2nd Peter chapter 3. The day that comes burning like an oven, which is the coming of the Son, the Day of the Lord.
And 1 Thessalonians 4.
“Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.”
Matthew 24:23-28.
If anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. “Behold, I have told you in advance. “So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. “For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. “Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.”
People are already saying that. They say Jesus will come and sit on a throne in Jerusalem, yet Jesus told us NOT TO BELIEVE IT. Who do we believe? Jesus, that’s who.
Luke 17:21.
Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst”
So much more to say, but I can’t post for a while.
Take care, Terraricca.
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