How the bible first came to us

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  • #361102
    journey42
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    This video is very interesting.
    If it doesn't touch your heart then something is wrong.

    #361105
    Wakeup
    Participant

    God has preserved His Word,and no one can take it away
    from us.
    Satan tried hard to get rid of the King james version
    even today. But what is satan? Is he stronger that God?
    He will not succeed. He has flooded the world with his
    watered down versions,but the true seekers can see the difference. Much blood has been shed to preserve
    the kjv,for us to seek the truth in confidence;without doubting,that it is God that has done it,just for us.

    Believe in God;but also believe in his power.

    wakeup.

    #361124
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    Why should he get rid of one of his better tools for deceit?

    #361128
    terraricca
    Participant

    WAKEUP and compagny

    are you by that video DIMINISH THE SACRIFICE OF ALL THE EARLY CHRISTIANS THAT DIED FOR HAVING PUT IN PRACTICE THE MESSAGE INSIDE OF THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD ??? NEVER MIND THEIR PERSONAL LANGUAGE AND COPY OF THE MESSAGE THEY HAD IN THERE HANDS ,

    ALSO KNOW THAT MR GUTENBERG ,IN GERMANY INVENTED THE PRINTING MACHINE AND PRINTED THE BIBLE ON IT AS FIRST BOOK EVER BE PRINTED IN 1436 -1438 THIS IS ALMOST 200 YEARS PRIOR YOU COULD THINK OF THE KJV.OF THE BIBLE ,

    ALSO THE FRENCH VERSION WAS PRINTED YEARS BEFORE THE KJV , AND MANY WERE PERSECUTED FOR IT ,NOT MENTION IN SPAIN ,AND OTHER COUNTRIES ,

    AS I HAVE SAID YOU GUY'S HAVE A BIAS VIEW AT THE SCRIPTURES AND YOU ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE ENGLISH BIBLE STORY THAN THE MESSAGE WRITTEN IN IT ,DISREGARDING THE VERSION ; GOD HAVE NOT BLESSED GREAT BRITAIN ,ENGLISH SECTION OF IT ,
    WE HAVE SHOWN YOU THAT THIS VERSION IS CORRUPTED JUST AS ALL THE OTHER ONE IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER ,AND SO IT IS THE CONTENT THAT GOD ASK US TO TEST TO BE OF HIM ,NOT THE VERSION ,

    SATAN DID HIS WORK BY USING HIS CORRUPTED AND DEVIOUS MEN SERVANTS TO CHANGE SOME OF THE SCRIPTURES WORDS OR ADD OR TAKE AWAY, AND SO ALL SCRIPTURES ARE TO TESTED TO MAKE SURE ALL IS ACCORDING TO GODS WILL AND PLAN ;

    SO LET NOT MAKE OUT FROM A CORRUPTED VERSION THE LEADER OF SATAN CORRUPTION SCHEME SO THAT YOU WILL NOT REACH TO THE TRUTH OF GOD ,AND SO BE SAVED BY HIS SON SACRIFICE ,

    DON'T BE DECEIVED

    #361143
    2besee
    Participant

    I have not watched this video. I have no data left. But I was reading this.. And wikipedia.

    The first English translation was I think called “The Great Bible”, etc.

    But, interesting quote:

    “Up until the 1880’s every Protestant Bible (not
    just Catholic Bibles) had 80 books, not 66! The
    inter-testamental books written hundreds of
    years before Christ called “The Apocrypha”
    were part of virtually every printing of the
    Tyndale-Matthews Bible, the Great Bible, the
    Bishops Bible, the Protestant Geneva Bible,
    and the King James Bible until their removal in
    the 1880’s ! The original 1611 King James
    contained the Apocrypha, and King James
    threatened anyone who dared to print the
    Bible without the Apocrypha with heavy fines
    and a year in jail. Only for the last 120 years
    has the Protestant Church rejected these
    books, and removed them from their Bibles.
    This has left most modern-day Christians
    believing the popular myth that there is
    something “Roman Catholic” about the
    Apocrypha. There is, however, no truth in that
    myth, and no widely-accepted reason for the
    removal of the Apocrypha in the 1880’s has
    ever been officially issued…….”

    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/

    #361162
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 05 2013,06:37)
    Wakeup,

    Why should he get rid of one of his better tools for deceit?


    Kerwin.

    Who is HE?

    wakeup.

    #361165
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,12:44)
    “Up until the 1880’s every Protestant Bible (not
    just Catholic Bibles) had 80 books, not 66! The
    inter-testamental books written hundreds of
    years before Christ called “The Apocrypha”
    were part of virtually every printing of the
    Tyndale-Matthews Bible, the Great Bible, the
    Bishops Bible, the Protestant Geneva Bible,
    and the King James Bible until their removal in
    the 1880’s ! The original 1611 King James
    contained the Apocrypha, and King James
    threatened anyone who dared to print the
    Bible without the Apocrypha with heavy fines
    and a year in jail. Only for the last 120 years
    has the Protestant Church rejected these
    books, and removed them from their Bibles.
    This has left most modern-day Christians
    believing the popular myth that there is
    something “Roman Catholic” about the
    Apocrypha. There is, however, no truth in that
    myth, and no widely-accepted reason for the
    removal of the Apocrypha in the 1880’s has
    ever been officially issued…….”

    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/


    Soooo, Wakeup, whatcha gonna do now?
    Your Bible “the KJV” is today missing some books.
    14 to be exact!

    #361168
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2013,07:17)
    WAKEUP and compagny

    are you by that video DIMINISH THE SACRIFICE OF ALL THE EARLY CHRISTIANS THAT DIED FOR HAVING PUT IN PRACTICE THE MESSAGE INSIDE OF THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD ??? NEVER MIND THEIR PERSONAL LANGUAGE AND COPY OF THE MESSAGE THEY HAD IN THERE HANDS ,

    ALSO KNOW THAT MR GUTENBERG ,IN GERMANY INVENTED THE PRINTING MACHINE AND PRINTED THE BIBLE ON IT AS FIRST BOOK EVER BE PRINTED IN 1436 -1438 THIS IS ALMOST 200 YEARS PRIOR YOU COULD THINK OF THE KJV.OF THE BIBLE ,

    ALSO THE FRENCH VERSION WAS PRINTED YEARS BEFORE THE KJV , AND MANY WERE PERSECUTED FOR IT ,NOT MENTION IN SPAIN ,AND OTHER COUNTRIES ,

    AS I HAVE SAID YOU GUY'S HAVE A BIAS VIEW AT THE SCRIPTURES AND YOU ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE ENGLISH BIBLE STORY THAN THE MESSAGE WRITTEN IN IT ,DISREGARDING THE VERSION ; GOD HAVE NOT BLESSED GREAT BRITAIN ,ENGLISH SECTION OF IT ,
    WE HAVE SHOWN YOU THAT THIS VERSION IS CORRUPTED JUST AS ALL THE OTHER ONE IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER ,AND SO IT IS THE CONTENT THAT GOD ASK US TO TEST TO BE OF HIM ,NOT THE VERSION ,

    SATAN DID HIS WORK BY USING HIS CORRUPTED AND DEVIOUS MEN SERVANTS TO CHANGE SOME OF THE SCRIPTURES WORDS OR ADD OR TAKE AWAY, AND SO ALL SCRIPTURES ARE TO TESTED TO MAKE SURE ALL IS ACCORDING TO GODS WILL AND PLAN ;

    SO LET NOT MAKE OUT FROM A CORRUPTED VERSION THE LEADER OF SATAN CORRUPTION SCHEME SO THAT YOU WILL NOT REACH TO THE TRUTH OF GOD ,AND SO BE SAVED BY HIS SON SACRIFICE ,

    DON'T BE DECEIVED


    T.

    God in the past had used the hebrew and aramaic
    language. Then he used the greek,because it was the
    a world language. Then he used english,because it is a world language.
    Out of this *ONE* are many translations in many languages.

    Anyone can read their own chosen bible,
    it is according to their own choice of the spirit.

    My spirit says; in the kjv is the truth to be found.
    My spirit says that God's Word is preserved in the kjv.

    Your spirit may say otherwise.
    I did not choose the kjv because it says *KJV*;
    but because of the content.
    The spirit in it.

    (THE MORE DIFFERENT VERSIONS;THE MORE DIVISIONS)
    HUSBAND HAS ONE VERSION,AND WIFE HAS ANOTHER
    THEREFORE CREATE DIVISIONS. THIS IS THE PURPOSE.
    AND IT HAS WORKED VERY WELL.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #361170
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,08:30)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2013,07:17)
    WAKEUP and compagny

    are you by that video DIMINISH THE SACRIFICE OF ALL THE EARLY CHRISTIANS THAT DIED FOR HAVING PUT IN PRACTICE THE MESSAGE INSIDE OF THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD ??? NEVER MIND THEIR PERSONAL LANGUAGE AND COPY OF THE MESSAGE THEY HAD IN THERE HANDS ,

    ALSO KNOW THAT MR GUTENBERG ,IN GERMANY INVENTED THE PRINTING MACHINE AND PRINTED THE BIBLE ON IT AS FIRST BOOK EVER BE PRINTED IN 1436 -1438 THIS IS ALMOST 200 YEARS PRIOR YOU COULD THINK OF THE KJV.OF THE BIBLE ,

    ALSO THE FRENCH VERSION WAS PRINTED YEARS BEFORE THE KJV , AND MANY WERE PERSECUTED FOR IT ,NOT MENTION IN SPAIN ,AND OTHER COUNTRIES ,

    AS I HAVE SAID YOU GUY'S HAVE A BIAS VIEW AT THE SCRIPTURES AND YOU ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE ENGLISH BIBLE STORY THAN THE MESSAGE WRITTEN IN IT ,DISREGARDING THE VERSION ; GOD HAVE NOT BLESSED GREAT BRITAIN ,ENGLISH SECTION OF IT ,
    WE HAVE SHOWN YOU THAT THIS VERSION IS CORRUPTED JUST AS ALL THE OTHER ONE IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER ,AND SO IT IS THE CONTENT THAT GOD ASK US TO TEST TO BE OF HIM ,NOT THE VERSION ,

    SATAN DID HIS WORK BY USING HIS CORRUPTED AND DEVIOUS MEN SERVANTS TO CHANGE SOME OF THE SCRIPTURES WORDS OR ADD OR TAKE AWAY, AND SO ALL SCRIPTURES ARE TO TESTED TO MAKE SURE ALL IS ACCORDING TO GODS WILL AND PLAN ;

    SO LET NOT MAKE OUT FROM A CORRUPTED VERSION THE LEADER OF SATAN CORRUPTION SCHEME SO THAT YOU WILL NOT REACH TO THE TRUTH OF GOD ,AND SO BE SAVED BY HIS SON SACRIFICE ,

    DON'T BE DECEIVED


    T.

    God in the past had used the hebrew and aramaic
    language. Then he used the greek,because it was the
    a world language. Then he used english,because it is a world language.
    Out of this *ONE* are many translations in many languages.

    Anyone can read their own chosen bible,
    it is according to their own choice of the spirit.

    My spirit says; in the kjv is the truth to be found.
    My spirit says that God's Word is preserved in the kjv.

    Your spirit may say otherwise.
    I did not choose the kjv because it says *KJV*;
    but because of the content.
    The spirit in it.

    (THE MORE DIFFERENT VERSIONS;THE MORE DIVISIONS)
    HUSBAND HAS ONE VERSION,AND WIFE HAS ANOTHER
    THEREFORE CREATE DIVISIONS. THIS IS THE PURPOSE.
    AND IT HAS WORKED VERY WELL.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    w

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    Then he used english,because it is a world language.

    when do you think Britain became a world power ???

    currios

    #361172
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    Quote
    Your spirit may say otherwise.
    I did not choose the kjv because it says *KJV*;
    but because of the content.
    The spirit in it.

    no ,you took this version because you where trained in it ,and indoctrinated in it ,not for it's contend that would be crap talk

    #361174
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,13:22)

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,12:44)
    “Up until the 1880’s every Protestant Bible (not
    just Catholic Bibles) had 80 books, not 66! The
    inter-testamental books written hundreds of
    years before Christ called “The Apocrypha”
    were part of virtually every printing of the
    Tyndale-Matthews Bible, the Great Bible, the
    Bishops Bible, the Protestant Geneva Bible,
    and the King James Bible until their removal in
    the 1880’s ! The original 1611 King James
    contained the Apocrypha, and King James
    threatened anyone who dared to print the
    Bible without the Apocrypha with heavy fines
    and a year in jail. Only for the last 120 years
    has the Protestant Church rejected these
    books, and removed them from their Bibles.
    This has left most modern-day Christians
    believing the popular myth that there is
    something “Roman Catholic” about the
    Apocrypha. There is, however, no truth in that
    myth, and no widely-accepted reason for the
    removal of the Apocrypha in the 1880’s has
    ever been officially issued…….”

    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/


    Soooo, Wakeup, whatcha gonna do now?
    Your Bible “the KJV” is today missing some books.
    14 to be exact!


    2Besee.

    Who says so?
    Are they not the masters of this world?
    Have they managed to render God impotent.
    Where is your faith in God's POWER?
    Is he weak in your eyes?
    Is He incapable of running his household?
    Are his saints left to themselves without a shepherd?
    Are they to go to the market place to find the truth?

    Why worship God if he has no power?

    wakeup.

    #361179
    2besee
    Participant

    Wakeup, please deal to the facts that I presented, without causing a diversion.

    Facts. Not fiction.
    Deal to them.

    #361181
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,15:22)

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,12:44)
    “Up until the 1880’s every Protestant Bible (not
    just Catholic Bibles) had 80 books, not 66! The
    inter-testamental books written hundreds of
    years before Christ called “The Apocrypha”
    were part of virtually every printing of the
    Tyndale-Matthews Bible, the Great Bible, the
    Bishops Bible, the Protestant Geneva Bible,
    and the King James Bible until their removal in
    the 1880’s ! The original 1611 King James
    contained the Apocrypha, and King James
    threatened anyone who dared to print the
    Bible without the Apocrypha with heavy fines
    and a year in jail. Only for the last 120 years
    has the Protestant Church rejected these
    books, and removed them from their Bibles.
    This has left most modern-day Christians
    believing the popular myth that there is
    something “Roman Catholic” about the
    Apocrypha. There is, however, no truth in that
    myth, and no widely-accepted reason for the
    removal of the Apocrypha in the 1880’s has
    ever been officially issued…….”

    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/


    Soooo, Wakeup, whatcha gonna do now?
    Your Bible “the KJV” is today missing some books.
    14 to be exact!


    These points.

    #361182
    2besee
    Participant

    Fact: The first translations to English of the Bible were called the Geneva Bible, the Great Bible, the Tyndale Bible etc. NOT the KJV.
    The first English translated Bibles for public use contained 80 books in total. This included the later produced, original KJV.
    The LATER edition of the KJV however, took those books out.

    So the later edition KJV which you promote AS the ONLY reliable Bible translation is missing some books, which the later ones put back!

    #361190
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,14:48)

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,15:22)

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,12:44)
    “Up until the 1880’s every Protestant Bible (not
    just Catholic Bibles) had 80 books, not 66! The
    inter-testamental books written hundreds of
    years before Christ called “The Apocrypha”
    were part of virtually every printing of the
    Tyndale-Matthews Bible, the Great Bible, the
    Bishops Bible, the Protestant Geneva Bible,
    and the King James Bible until their removal in
    the 1880’s ! The original 1611 King James
    contained the Apocrypha, and King James
    threatened anyone who dared to print the
    Bible without the Apocrypha with heavy fines
    and a year in jail. Only for the last 120 years
    has the Protestant Church rejected these
    books, and removed them from their Bibles.
    This has left most modern-day Christians
    believing the popular myth that there is
    something “Roman Catholic” about the
    Apocrypha. There is, however, no truth in that
    myth, and no widely-accepted reason for the
    removal of the Apocrypha in the 1880’s has
    ever been officially issued…….”

    http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/


    Soooo, Wakeup, whatcha gonna do now?
    Your Bible “the KJV” is today missing some books.
    14 to be exact!


    These points.


    2besee.

    So that is the history of the kjv.
    You believe or not is your purgative
    I believe the kjv is the one preserved by God.
    By the harmony in the scriptures.
    You make your own choice.

    wakeup.

    #361201
    2besee
    Participant

    Wakeup,
    Your are avoiding what I posted.

    #361203
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,19:08)
    Wakeup,
    Your are avoiding what I posted.


    2Besee.

    What? About the name Yhwh?
    Or about the translations?

    wakeup.

    #361204
    2besee
    Participant

    Example where is the book of the wisdom of Solomon? It was in the original KJV, but then they took it out (despite the kings orders not to)?
    It's in the JB, it was in the RSV, and all of the other missing books were in the earliest English translations, such as the “Great Bible” and the Tyndale.

    So where is it (where are all the missing books) in the later version KJV?

    #361205
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 05 2013,21:10)

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,19:08)
    Wakeup,
    Your are avoiding what I posted.


    2Besee.

    What? About the name Yhwh?
    Or about the translations?

    wakeup.


    Wakeup, read what I quoted in the quote box, or the previous page, then you will know what I'm talking about!

    #361206
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2013,19:18)
    Example where is the book of the wisdom of Solomon? It was in the original KJV, but then they took it out (despite the kings orders not to)?
    It's in the JB, it was in the RSV, and all of the other missing books were in the earliest English translations, such as the “Great Bible” and the Tyndale.

    So where is it (where are all the missing books) in the later version KJV?


    2Besee.

    If they are not put in the kjv
    that's because God does not want it.
    I believe in his choice.
    God has preserved one reliable book.
    The flesh of Christ is not to be contaminated
    by other words that dont belong to his Word.
    Because we have to eat his *pure flesh*.
    I believe in the power of the Word,and his God.

    wakeup.

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