How much should we love jesus?

[RokkaMan]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 30 2009,18:04)

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 30 2009,02:52) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 29 2009,00:30) Hi LU, So we should not follow Jesus on this one but worship him as well as his Father/God? Nick, We worship him as we follow Him. His kingdom is eternal. Are you going to also have your own eternal kingdom? Or are you going to be in someone else's kingdom? LU Hi LU, He did not worship himself. We follow him do we not?

But The Father said…every knee in and under heaven will bow to Jesus…

Don't point fingers at LU for following the commandments of The Father himself.

[NickHassan]

Hi RM,
Indeed all will know him as Lord.
God is in him but he is not that God.
True worship is not bending the knee[Jn4]

[RokkaMan]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:26)

Hi RM, Indeed all will know him as Lord. God is in him but he is not that God. True worship is not bending the knee[Jn4]

Nick, I've already renounced the Idea that Jesus is YHWH.
stop pickin on me, lol

[bodhitharta]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:34)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:26) Hi RM, Indeed all will know him as Lord. God is in him but he is not that God. True worship is not bending the knee[Jn4] Nick, I've already renounced the Idea that Jesus is YHWH. stop pickin on me, lol

Actually you haven't because you keep calling Jesus “God” and Jesus said that there is only one True God so why not be obedient to Messiah? Christ is a wonderful title

(1) The Messiah does by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His service and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172)

(2) Then as for those who believe and do good, He will pay them fully their rewards and give them more out of His grace; and as for those who disdain and are proud, He will chastise them with a painful chastisement. And they shall not find for themselves besides Allah a guardian or a helper
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #173)

[NickHassan]

HI BD,
Not just a title but a fact, the anointed one of God and the messiah sent by God to save men from their sin.
Why would you follow men who call him liar?

[RokkaMan]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2009,07:00)

Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:34) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:26) Hi RM, Indeed all will know him as Lord. God is in him but he is not that God. True worship is not bending the knee[Jn4] Nick, I've already renounced the Idea that Jesus is YHWH. stop pickin on me, lol Actually you haven't because you keep calling Jesus “God” and Jesus said that there is only one True God so why not be obedient to Messiah? Christ is a wonderful title (1) The Messiah does by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His service and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.   (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172) (2) Then as for those who believe and do good, He will pay them fully their rewards and give them more out of His grace; and as for those who disdain and are proud, He will chastise them with a painful chastisement. And they shall not find for themselves besides Allah a guardian or a helper   (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #173)

In Jesus' own words…
John 10

34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
————————————————–

We are Gods but that does not make us YHWH….

Jesus is God of the universe…because ALL things were given to him by YHWH.

YHWH however, is God all in all….He is the one and only true almighty God.

The same way a president of a company is not the president of the united states….

Jesus being the God of the universe doesn't make him like YHWH in who is the God of all.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,07:06)

HI BD, Not just a tile but a fact, the anointed one of God and the messiah sent by God to save men from their sin. Why would you follow men who call him liar?

Who has called Jesus a liar and if you assert such a thing show us your evidence.

But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 15:23-25

But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 10:5-7

[bodhitharta]

Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 31 2009,07:09)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 31 2009,07:00) Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:34) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,04:26) Hi RM, Indeed all will know him as Lord. God is in him but he is not that God. True worship is not bending the knee[Jn4] Nick, I've already renounced the Idea that Jesus is YHWH. stop pickin on me, lol Actually you haven't because you keep calling Jesus “God” and Jesus said that there is only one True God so why not be obedient to Messiah? Christ is a wonderful title (1) The Messiah does by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His service and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.   (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #172) (2) Then as for those who believe and do good, He will pay them fully their rewards and give them more out of His grace; and as for those who disdain and are proud, He will chastise them with a painful chastisement. And they shall not find for themselves besides Allah a guardian or a helper   (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #173) In Jesus' own words… John 10 34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; ————————————————– We are Gods but that does not make us YHWH…. Jesus is God of the universe…because ALL things were given to him by YHWH. YHWH however, is God all in all….He is the one and only true almighty God. The same way a president of a company is not the president of the united states…. Jesus being the God of the universe doesn't make him like YHWH in who is the God of all.

So if we are not The TRUE God what does that make us?

Now for a long season Israel hath been without the true God, and without a teaching priest, and without law.
2 Chronicles 15:2-4

But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
Jeremiah 10:9-11

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 17:2-4

For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
1 Thessalonians 1:8-10

[bodhitharta]

Do you take Jesus as a God besides Your LORD GOD?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Indeed he went to the house of Israel and spent much of the time discussing their law with them.
Now through his disciples his Spirit has taken the message of salvation in him to all men.

Have you not heard ?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,15:30)

Hi BD, Indeed he went to the house of Israel and spent much of the time discussing their law with them. Now through his disciples his Spirit has taken the message of salvation in him to all men. Have you not heard ?

Nick,

Not salvation in him but through him.

The Quran agrees with this as well.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
You must repent and be baptised into the death of the Son of God [Rom6]and you will receive the oil of the Spirit for your lamps that you might be raised with him when he returns.[Mt25]
Reborn into the Son you will be given a role in his body on earth so he can continue his godly works on earth.
He must rule till all is put right again and the dross of creation burned away.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 01 2009,06:01)

Hi BD, You must repent and be baptised into the death of the Son of God [Rom6]and you will receive the oil of the Spirit for your lamps that you might be raised with him when he returns.[Mt25] Reborn into the Son you will be given a role in his body on earth so he can continue his godly works on earth. He must rule till all is put right again and the dross of creation burned away.

Romans 6

11Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Once you have obeyed and entered the door of the kingdom, the first priority, then knocking, asking, seeking and walking while the light is with you is the way of faith.
Having partaken of Christ [heb3]we can become the sons of light[Jn12]and join the wedding feast celebrations.[Mt25]

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 01 2009,06:39)

Hi BD, Once you have obeyed and entered the door of the kingdom, the first priority, then knocking, asking, seeking and walking while the light is with you is the way of faith. Having partaken of Christ [heb3]we can become the sons of light[Jn12]and join the wedding feast celebrations.[Mt25]

Amen!

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
The anointed man of God, Peter, said of Jesus;

“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God”

Do you believe him?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 01 2009,10:00)

Hi BD, The anointed man of God, Peter, said of Jesus; “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God” Do you believe him?

Yes! Amen!

[terraricca]

hi to all
yes amen ,and that should do it ?first if you love God with all your strenght explain to who you do not love Christ he the one who make God known to us,the scriptures said if you love God you should love the one he has send.
you are not born again onless you have prodused the fruits of the spirit ,if time permits,so if you take knowledge of is word and 10 years have pasted and you have not progressed into maturity has a Christian soul,you berther read the scriptures again because you mist the train,the Isrelites when God promised the land he also gived direction or bylaws to be accepted and applied and that happiness and long live in the promesed land where conditional.
God does not change,wath was ,wath is, willbe the same,the same the live of adam depended on is obediance.
the devil knows that man is lassy by nature ,this is the worst enemy of man,because in stead of doing our work like we should we let someone else do it for us,this is why you have so many religion,the come in to seduce and bring you an easy way,like thrust us we take care of you we just need a little pocket contribution.wath your are really doing is give your live into another person and open youself to coruption,just like Adam and Eve did with the snake.
do not trust anyone study the scriptures you self look for answers do not rely on religion.

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