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These are the lies for which the programme makers will burn for all eternity in a lake of fire. Or else god will choose a new king as with Saul and Samuel. Whatever, the bald-faced lies were:
Quote “Guess work that Darwin had conjured up in his own imagination” “He supposed that inanimate substances had combined as the result of chance and given rise to the first living cell”
“The myth of evolution was supported by no scientific findings whatsoever”
“This single-celled organism slowly transformed itself over generations into other forms of life”
“The fact of creation”
“They have provided all forms of support in order to keep the theory alive”
“Every evidence they have obtained so far has turned out to be refuting evolution rather than confirming it”
“Modern science and technology…have revealed no scientific basis at all for the theory of evolution”
“All branches of science concerned with the subject…have produced countless proofs demolishing the theory of evolution”
“Because countless fossils offer inescapable proof that living species on earth have never undergone the slightest change”
“When the fossil record is examined living things today are seen to be exactly the same as they were hundreds of millions of years ago, in other words they never underwent evolution”
“They emerged suddenly onto the world stage with all their complex structures fully present”
“We were exactly the same hundreds of millions of years ago”
That is one lie every 41.5 seconds. I sure hope they like the smell of sulfur. Or celestial coronations.
Stuart
t8
Excellent footage, thank you for putting it up.
That is exactly why we read in the bible, “all after their kind”.
When you say “after”, there had to be a “before”.
Just as early scientist relied on their own wisdom rather then facts, so have early Christian leaders.
Once a false truth is taught for generations, it then becomes truth.Georg
Quote (Stu @ May 18 2009,21:36) These are the lies for which the programme makers will burn for all eternity in a lake of fire. Or else god will choose a new king as with Saul and Samuel. Whatever, the bald-faced lies were: [Stuart
Which one of your “god's”?Georg
Quote (Cindy @ May 18 2009,21:52) t8 Excellent footage, thank you for putting it up.
That is exactly why we read in the bible, “all after their kind”.
When you say “after”, there had to be a “before”.
Just as early scientist relied on their own wisdom rather then facts, so have early Christian leaders.
Once a false truth is taught for generations, it then becomes truth.Georg
You don't seem to worried about those who bear false witness and will enjoy an eternity of damnation. You presumably accept the millions of years but reject Ussher whose calculations are scripturally based. Why is that?Stuart
Quote (Stu @ May 19 2009,07:32) Quote (Cindy @ May 18 2009,21:52) t8 Excellent footage, thank you for putting it up.
That is exactly why we read in the bible, “all after their kind”.
When you say “after”, there had to be a “before”.
Just as early scientist relied on their own wisdom rather then facts, so have early Christian leaders.
Once a false truth is taught for generations, it then becomes truth.Georg
You don't seem to worried about those who bear false witness and will enjoy an eternity of damnation. You presumably accept the millions of years but reject Ussher whose calculations are scripturally based. Why is that?Stuart
Stu,
It is not enough to say “bald faced lie.” Please disprove the evidence presented in the footage. Also, I did not see Georg say anything about accepting Ussher. There are many Christians who believe that the earth is millions of years old. You fail to attempt to disprove evidence and you put words into people's mouths. Can't you see that your ignorance of facts is obvious to all?thinker
Quote (thethinker @ May 19 2009,09:13) Quote (Stu @ May 19 2009,07:32) Quote (Cindy @ May 18 2009,21:52) t8 Excellent footage, thank you for putting it up.
That is exactly why we read in the bible, “all after their kind”.
When you say “after”, there had to be a “before”.
Just as early scientist relied on their own wisdom rather then facts, so have early Christian leaders.
Once a false truth is taught for generations, it then becomes truth.Georg
You don't seem to worried about those who bear false witness and will enjoy an eternity of damnation. You presumably accept the millions of years but reject Ussher whose calculations are scripturally based. Why is that?Stuart
Stu,
It is not enough to say “bald faced lie.” Please disprove the evidence presented in the footage. Also, I did not see Georg say anything about accepting Ussher. There are many Christians who believe that the earth is millions of years old. You fail to attempt to disprove evidence and you put words into people's mouths. Can't you see that your ignorance of facts is obvious to all?thinker
You are not telling me you actually believe this nonsense do you? t8 doesn't either, he is just winding me up.Do make some effort to distinguish religio-political fantasy from reality.
I will await Georg's answer. Hopefully he actually bothers to read what I wrote…unlike some.
Stuart
Stu said:
Quote You are not telling me you actually believe this nonsense do you? t8 doesn't either, he is just winding me up. Do make some effort to distinguish religio-political fantasy from reality.
I will await Georg's answer. Hopefully he actually bothers to read what I wrote…unlike some.
Stu,
I asked you to disprove it. If it is “nonsense” then please give your point A, B and C arguments. t8 presented his evidence. Now you should present your counter evidence. Put up or shut up! How fitting it is that you chose the avatar with the ape covering its eyes.thinker
Quote “Guess work that Darwin had conjured up in his own imagination”
A lie not even worth explaining. Go and read Darwin’s books if you want to know the truth.Quote “He supposed that inanimate substances had combined as the result of chance and given rise to the first living cell”
Lying creationists love to conflate hypotheses of abiogenesis with evolution by natural selection. Darwin said he did not know how life began, he explained speciation as resulting from natural selection.Quote “The myth of evolution was supported by no scientific findings whatsoever”
I cite The Origin of Species to refute this bald-faced whopper.Quote “This single-celled organism slowly transformed itself over generations into other forms of life”
No. Its descendants passed on their ever-changing genes, with the resultant ever-changing phenotypes. No single member of any species ‘transformed itself over generations’. That is clearly a nonsense.Quote “The fact of creation”
A fact is something that would be perverse to deny. There is not even a theory of creation, nor even an hypothesis. No creationist has ever said what creation actually is, and that is perfectly reasonably denied, so to call it a fact is a lie.Quote “They have provided all forms of support in order to keep the theory alive”
Actually scientists try to disprove, not to find support. So far there is no disproof of natural selection. This lie is a libel to every professional scientist working in a field related to evolutionary theory.Quote “Every evidence they have obtained so far has turned out to be refuting evolution rather than confirming it”
…and yet not a single piece of evidence is presented that refutes evolution by natural selection. These lies are cheap to make, aren’t they? All unsupported assertions. Just like all religious doctrine.Quote “Modern science and technology…have revealed no scientific basis at all for the theory of evolution”
See above.Quote “All branches of science concerned with the subject…have produced countless proofs demolishing the theory of evolution”
And yet this fatuous bozo did not actually present any of them. Making it a lie.Quote “Because countless fossils offer inescapable proof that living species on earth have never undergone the slightest change”
I refer you to the fossil record.Quote “When the fossil record is examined living things today are seen to be exactly the same as they were hundreds of millions of years ago, in other words they never underwent evolution”
There are a few species that have undergone very little change relative to other species, but the amount of neutral change in their genomes over time has been at the same rate. It is a lie to say they have not undergone natural selection, and saying they never underwent evolution is a nonsense, because evolution is the name of the factual observation of the natural history of species, not the name of the process by which the changes occur. There is no compulsion for species to change if the selection pressure causes it to stay the same because the environment has not changed.Quote “They emerged suddenly onto the world stage with all their complex structures fully present”
The fossil record is one of pretty much gradual change over the last 4 billion years, with distinct variations in speed along the way. The complex structures of the human brain, to take one example, have only existed for the past couple of hundred thousand years. That is evidenced by the start of the making of complex tools and evidence of the development of symbolic language. Archeology shows us that this ‘sudden emergence’ canard is a lie, without even having to bother the paleontologist.Quote “We were exactly the same hundreds of millions of years ago”
We certainly were not. Humans diverged from a common ancestor with chimpanzees and bonobos about 6 million years ago.All those creationist lies, and they are some of the most banal ones in all creationdom. I feel dirty now.
Stuart
Stu said:
Quote Humans diverged from a common ancestor with chimpanzees and bonobos about 6 million years ago. Then why do we still have apes today?
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ May 26 2009,00:11) Stu said: Quote Humans diverged from a common ancestor with chimpanzees and bonobos about 6 million years ago. Then why do we still have apes today?
thinker
I can see why you were so enamoured by the video. Just imagine how much more interesting our conversation could be if you had bothered to learn some basic biology at school instead of filling your head with brain-dead creationist canards.Stuart
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