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- April 12, 2008 at 6:40 pm#86906seek and you will findParticipant
Stu Don't ask me, ask God.
Peace and Love Mrs.
April 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm#86907942767ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 11 2008,13:54) Hi 94,
Ephesians 2:3
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Hi Nick:There is no question that all men do sin, but to say that it natural for them to do so, gives the impression God made man evil, and I do not believe that He did. Man has a free will and has yielded to temptation, and his sinful nature he has developed by yielding to temptation to sin in the world.
April 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm#86914NickHassanParticipantHi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.April 12, 2008 at 8:43 pm#86921Not3in1ParticipantQuote (charity @ April 12 2008,20:59) Earth falls short of the knowledge of either love or hatred
Girl! She's singing our life's theme song, isn't she?And that dress……..oh my.
Thanks, Charity.
Love ya.
MandyApril 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm#86923Not3in1ParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 12 2008,22:06) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 12 2008,18:44) Charity Good to see you, but you think it is O.K. what you seen in New Orleans? I find that City to be Sodom and Gomorrah. I am not to judge anybody, but we also have to see tho what is wrong or right, don't you think so. And make others aware of it, so they do not fall into the trap of Oh, everybody is doing it, and so it is alright to do. Love Mrs.
What is wrong with homosexuality?Stuart
You ask certain folks what is wrong with homosexuality and they will give you the answer the bible supposedly gives – it is wicked. They can give you no other answer, you know this.April 12, 2008 at 8:50 pm#86924942767ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,07:53) Hi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.
Hi Nick:I agree.
April 12, 2008 at 8:54 pm#86926Not3in1ParticipantQuote (942767 @ April 13 2008,08:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,07:53) Hi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.
Hi Nick:I agree.
But how come one man's decision affected us all? That's really not fair, is it?April 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm#86928seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:45) Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,22:06) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 12 2008,18:44) Charity Good to see you, but you think it is O.K. what you seen in New Orleans? I find that City to be Sodom and Gomorrah. I am not to judge anybody, but we also have to see tho what is wrong or right, don't you think so. And make others aware of it, so they do not fall into the trap of Oh, everybody is doing it, and so it is alright to do. Love Mrs.
What is wrong with homosexuality?Stuart
You ask certain folks what is wrong with homosexuality and they will give you the answer the bible supposedly gives – it is wicked. They can give you no other answer, you know this.
Mandy! So what do you think of Homosexuality? Is it wrong? To make fun of it, is not the right way to respond, I do not want to upset you in anyway, but loving somebody, should be to tell them that they are wrong. That would be a loving thing to do. I know that it would create a conflixt, but just to ignore it, do you find that right? In God's eyes it is Sin, you do agree with that or not?
Christ has also taught us not to run towards sin, but to run from it. What is happening at the end times is that Satan will have people so wrapped up that they think that there is no sin. When we read the Sermon on the Mount it makes it crystal clear what is happening. Many are called, but few are chosen. The road is steep and few will find it. What road is He talking about? If a sexual sin is even when we look at a woman in lust that we have already commited adultery in our Hearts, I wonder what He would have to say about two woman or two men being involved in a sexual act. I do not believe that it is right. So we must all prove it. I have.
Peace and Love IreneApril 12, 2008 at 9:40 pm#86931942767ParticipantQuote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:54) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,08:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,07:53) Hi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.
Hi Nick:I agree.
But how come one man's decision affected us all? That's really not fair, is it?
Hi Mandy:Although sin entered into the world through one man, each of us have a free will and each of us has yielded to temptation, therefore, we are each accountable to God for our sins.
It may appear unfair, but there reasons why God has allowed this.
April 12, 2008 at 9:44 pm#86932NickHassanParticipantQuote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:54) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,08:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,07:53) Hi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.
Hi Nick:I agree.
But how come one man's decision affected us all? That's really not fair, is it?
Hi not3,
Fairness is a philosophical question relating to the plan of God.
We have to deal with what is, not what we like things to be.April 12, 2008 at 10:22 pm#86941kejonnParticipantIn other words, tough cookies Mandy. If Yahweh wants to act like a big pouty child, I guess its his perogative.
April 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm#86943942767ParticipantQuote Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, April 12, 2008 at 10:46 pm#86946StuParticipantQuote (seek and you will find @ April 13 2008,06:40) Stu Don't ask me, ask God. Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi seek and you will findYou want me to ask a suspected (by his own admission) murderer what happens to those who follow him?
Stuart
April 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm#86947seek and you will findParticipantQuote (kejonn @ April 13 2008,10:22) In other words, tough cookies Mandy. If Yahweh wants to act like a big pouty child, I guess its his perogative.
kejonn! It has always upset me when Stu comes on here and makes fun of our fairy in the sky, you are becoming just like him, and you know what, I do not like that. You used to be so nice. Even if you don't believe like we do, gives you no reason to make fun of things. You also sound angry. What are you angry at? On us for believing in the Bible, or what?
Peace and Love Mrs.April 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm#86949StuParticipantQuote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:45) Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,22:06) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 12 2008,18:44) Charity Good to see you, but you think it is O.K. what you seen in New Orleans? I find that City to be Sodom and Gomorrah. I am not to judge anybody, but we also have to see tho what is wrong or right, don't you think so. And make others aware of it, so they do not fall into the trap of Oh, everybody is doing it, and so it is alright to do. Love Mrs.
What is wrong with homosexuality?Stuart
You ask certain folks what is wrong with homosexuality and they will give you the answer the bible supposedly gives – it is wicked. They can give you no other answer, you know this.
I want to give people the opportunity to explain their reasons. We can then discuss the merit of those reasons. Of course you are right that the only 'reason' we are likely to hear is parroted scripture, which gives no reasons at all. That is one good reason to embrace a secular society. There are other people with very good non-biblical reasons to decriminalise homosexuality and the law should certainly not be 'it is an abomination'. That would be unjust.Stuart
April 12, 2008 at 10:54 pm#86950StuParticipantQuote (seek and you will find @ April 13 2008,09:00) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:45) Quote (Stu @ April 12 2008,22:06) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 12 2008,18:44) Charity Good to see you, but you think it is O.K. what you seen in New Orleans? I find that City to be Sodom and Gomorrah. I am not to judge anybody, but we also have to see tho what is wrong or right, don't you think so. And make others aware of it, so they do not fall into the trap of Oh, everybody is doing it, and so it is alright to do. Love Mrs.
What is wrong with homosexuality?Stuart
You ask certain folks what is wrong with homosexuality and they will give you the answer the bible supposedly gives – it is wicked. They can give you no other answer, you know this.
Mandy! So what do you think of Homosexuality? Is it wrong? To make fun of it, is not the right way to respond, I do not want to upset you in anyway, but loving somebody, should be to tell them that they are wrong. That would be a loving thing to do. I know that it would create a conflixt, but just to ignore it, do you find that right? In God's eyes it is Sin, you do agree with that or not?
Christ has also taught us not to run towards sin, but to run from it. What is happening at the end times is that Satan will have people so wrapped up that they think that there is no sin. When we read the Sermon on the Mount it makes it crystal clear what is happening. Many are called, but few are chosen. The road is steep and few will find it. What road is He talking about? If a sexual sin is even when we look at a woman in lust that we have already commited adultery in our Hearts, I wonder what He would have to say about two woman or two men being involved in a sexual act. I do not believe that it is right. So we must all prove it. I have.
Peace and Love Irene
What is wrong with homosexuality?Stuart
April 12, 2008 at 10:56 pm#86951StuParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,09:44) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:54) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,08:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,07:53) Hi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.
Hi Nick:I agree.
But how come one man's decision affected us all? That's really not fair, is it?
Hi not3,
Fairness is a philosophical question relating to the plan of God.
We have to deal with what is, not what we like things to be.
The only reason to follow christianity is for the justice it will bring to those who don't adhere to it's obsessions. You must be able at least to be able to see the fairness clearly. Your whole purpose revolves around the word 'fair'. Why do you then reject it?Stuart
April 12, 2008 at 10:58 pm#86952StuParticipantQuote (942767 @ April 13 2008,09:40) Quote (Not3in1 @ April 13 2008,08:54) Quote (942767 @ April 13 2008,08:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2008,07:53) Hi 94,
Man was not created sinful.
Allegiance to the god of this world caused that dominion.
Hi Nick:I agree.
But how come one man's decision affected us all? That's really not fair, is it?
Hi Mandy:Although sin entered into the world through one man, each of us have a free will and each of us has yielded to temptation, therefore, we are each accountable to God for our sins.
It may appear unfair, but there reasons why God has allowed this.
There are no reasons given. How do you know there are reasons?Give me a reson why homosexuality is wrong!
Stuart
April 12, 2008 at 10:59 pm#86954seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Stu @ April 13 2008,10:46) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 13 2008,06:40) Stu Don't ask me, ask God. Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi seek and you will findYou want me to ask a suspected (by his own admission) murderer what happens to those who follow him?
Stuart
Stu! The reason God has destroyed those in the Old Testament, they did all kinds of abomination to God. They sacrificed humans to their God's. God is our Creator. He has given us life and He can take Life. He destroyed those that cannot be helped in this life, that so that they will have a chance in the millennium. When Christ will teach all mankind.
Like Paul explained in
1 Corinth. 15 As all in Adam died, in Christ shall all be made alive.
Those that die now are not lost forever.
Peace and Love Mrs.April 12, 2008 at 11:06 pm#86959StuParticipantQuote (seek and you will find @ April 13 2008,10:59) Quote (Stu @ April 13 2008,10:46) Quote (seek and you will find @ April 13 2008,06:40) Stu Don't ask me, ask God. Peace and Love Mrs.
Hi seek and you will findYou want me to ask a suspected (by his own admission) murderer what happens to those who follow him?
Stuart
Stu! The reason God has destroyed those in the Old Testament, they did all kinds of abomination to God. They sacrificed humans to their God's. God is our Creator. He has given us life and He can take Life. He destroyed those that cannot be helped in this life, that so that they will have a chance in the millennium. When Christ will teach all mankind.
Like Paul explained in
1 Corinth. 15 As all in Adam died, in Christ shall all be made alive.
Those that die now are not lost forever.
Peace and Love Mrs.
I don't see a reason why homosexuality is wrong there. I do see good reasons for every christian to quietly walk away from the brutality that is christian faith, the way you write abotu it. How can a person get up in the morning, revel in the new sunshine, hear the birds, say good morning to a loved one then write what you have written?Stuart
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